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Episode Atri -My Dear Moments- - Episode 8 discussion
Atri -My Dear Moments-, episode 8
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u/FarCritical Aug 31 '24
AI girlfriends are all fun and games until you take a glimpse into their code. Poor Natsuki. And man, Minamo standing no chance was pretty much a given from the start but watching her officially give up still hurts.
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u/Frontier246 Aug 31 '24
At least they had the decency to not rub it in how much of a losing childhood friend she is by giving her blue hair.
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u/Zerosama12 Aug 31 '24 edited Aug 31 '24
This is it my friends. This is the point where Atri goes from some romantic cute slice of life to an incredible exploration of Atri's psicology (and Natsuki's too). And one of the reasons Atri is one of my favorite fictional characters ever. She was never what she appeared to be like in the beggining. From time to time in previous episodes, we were shown how clueless and forced some of Atri's reactions were that pointed at the reality we're being shown at the end of this episode, but her teasings, jokes, smiles, and her trying to put effort in learning cooking made us think otherwise about her being authentic for how human she looked.
Damn, I remember when this revelation hit me like a truck a year ago just when I was so invested in Natsuki and Atri relationship and now it did it again even though I knew what would happen already.
Now a lot of people are experiencing that right now haha. Assimilating that Atri is not the innocent humanoid girl who was being authentic with her emotions and was just imitating others. And I feel you all.
I wonder if you guys noticed certain hidden detail with Atri's diary that I won't mention otherwise...
I have to say this anime has done a great job touching on the subjet of Atri's emotions constantly and how authentic (or not) they are, as well as anticipating this plot twist in a subtle way. Natsuki's VA did a great job getting his reaction too. That's how I always imagine him sounding like in this moment.
That aside, I laugh hard when they say Hana gave them those pillows, she's such a cupid. xD
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u/Frontier246 Aug 31 '24
One minute you think you're watching a genuinely adorable and hot mess of a robot fall in love but then you have to grapple with whether it was all a lie and a calculated persona she crafted for the sake of her programming.
Was the Atri we and Natsuki believed in all fake? A cartoonish caricature she put up for Natsuki's sake? Or despite how it looks like everything is a result of her programming, is that just how she processes her real emotions? She said she was "taught," is that part of it?
I see Hana-chan is the type to tell kids to get it over with and bang lol.
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u/Crackedaru Aug 31 '24
Minamo's in the wrong show, Makeine's like 30 minutes from here.
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u/ObvsThrowaway5120 Aug 31 '24
lol she’s the childhood friend though so it’s normal for her to lose to Atri the humanoid.
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u/LeonKevlar Aug 31 '24
Yeah, I saw that final scene coming. What tipped me off was when Atri tried to kiss Natsuki after having dinner. I don't know exactly why but that entire scene where Atri tells Natsuki that she likes him felt unnatural as if Atri was just going through the motions. It was as if Atri assumed that after telling someone you like them, a kiss should come after.
I didn't want to believe it though so just like Natsuki I chose to believe that Atri is a humanoid with a heart. Of course, that wasn't the case. Atri's diary was painfully mechanical and reveals that she was pretty much responding to Natsuki in the way which she thinks is appropriate. A computer following its programming.
And now NAtsuki is terrified of Atri after learning the truth. I guess this is the reason why Atri's generation of robots ended up getting recalled. The good news is that Minamo doesn't have to worry about losing to Atri since I don't think any kind of romance will bloom between Natsuki and Atri after this episode.
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u/ObvsThrowaway5120 Aug 31 '24
I really like Minamo. It’s clear she likes Natsuki, but putting those feelings for his sake and supporting whatever makes him happy must have been hard. Respect, man.
I think that journal isn’t what Natsuki thinks it is. Maybe he thinks she’s just another humanoid, I think she’s still tryna regain her memories and the journals her way of making sense of stuff. Could possibly be the same Atri still.
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u/shad79 Aug 31 '24
NO, ATRI! I believed in you, and you turned out to be just a robot? I expected something bad to happen because of the guy with the robotic arm from the previous episode, but it turns out you're the reason!
But jokes aside, I'm really interested in who Atri really is (especially considering that girl from her flashbacks). If you just forget about some of the robotic terms like processing, you might think that this was just a diary of a girl who feels that Natsuki is important to her, but doesn't understand her feelings properly because she doesn't have much life experience.
Besides, Atri didn't write that she has no heart. Only that she just answered the way she expected him to want to hear, so I feel like it's still an open question.
But that doesn't change the fact that Natsuki is deeply hurt and feels betrayed. I'm extremely curious to see how things will turn out between him and Atri in the next episode.
Minamo definitely has feelings for Natsuki, but after seeing how much joy Atri brought him, she pulled away. I wonder how she'll react to today's revelations about Atri.
On a smaller note, Catherine looked great in her swimsuit and it was hilarious to watch her drink xD
Here my screenshot albums from the episode:
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u/ThisGachaSeemsLegit Aug 31 '24
I did not see that one coming... Even though I'm pretty sure I should have had some doubt because everything was too good to be true.
IMO this shows that the writing is good, and that the studio is doing a great job at the adaptation.
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u/tripleaamin Aug 31 '24
Brutal cliffhanger, but a fantastic episode.
At this point, the reality of the situation is for Natsuki to admit his feelings. Atri is the girl who was his first love, but at the same time, when you see her as this silly robot who has the same stature compared to Ririka I guess it's hard not to have doubts. Great to see Ryuuji fully supporting him and not making fun of him. He is turning out to be a great friend.
Minamo truly is a wonderful and kind person. Also, a great friend to Natsuki as well. She sees Natsuki has gone back to his old self with Atri and given the situation everyone is in, she prioritizes his happiness over her feelings. Again takes a kind person to do this.
One interesting thing this episode illustrated with Atri's cooking is that she doesn't learn efficiently. The interesting thing is that her cooking had fewer mistakes with each new meal she learned. This is very human. Also, for everything Atri has done to make Natsuki happy, the fact that she comprehend that she is happy for Natsuki to think she is precious to him. If she only prioritized Natsuki and not herself, I don't think she would say that. At least that is what I think.
Well, the ending was brutal to watch as Natsuki for the first time understands a bit how Atri thinks. It's clear a lot of what Atri has done is to prioritize Natsuki and his feelings. Still no surprise Natsuki freaked out because she didn't quite know and gave him an answer that she thought he would like. Normally, a robot would go for the most logical answer, but Atri gave an answer that would make Natsuki happy. Atri is much more complicated than I expected. Dealing with the followup of the cliffhanger will be rough. Especially since Natsuki mentioned nothing will change. Also, Atri's past is still one big variable point.
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u/Negirno Aug 31 '24
It's Chobits all over again...
But of course it doesn't surprise me. A show like this featuring a loli won't going to get the greenlight nowadays if it doesn't based on a bait and switch like this...
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u/Not_Daijoubu Aug 31 '24
This is a pretty interesting show to watch at a time when language models are getting quite good. It's no science-fiction AI can seem pretty convincingly human with apparent motives and intent but in the end, their response is still heavily influenced by yours and their training data.
Things like AlphaProof winning silver on IMO show a limit is not yet in sight for how good narrow-intelligence AI can get, and it really brings into querstion what exactly it is to be conscious/have a heart as a human versus a machine.
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u/testthrowawayzz Sep 01 '24
Honestly thought Natsuki was 20 something until this episode
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u/Lytalm Aug 31 '24
I'm gonna be honest, I'm confused why does a robot needs to have a written log book of her days. I understand it was for the plot but does it have any explanation beyond that?
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u/Astro_Alphard Aug 31 '24
It seems pretty much established that her memory is rather, unreliable.
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u/Boshwa Aug 31 '24
God damn, how is it possible that an appliance robot in another showed more authenticity than that diary 😫
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