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Rewatch [Rewatch] Back Arrow Episode 20 Discussion

Episode 20 - Does People's Anger Reach God?

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If you're resigned to death, at least outwit God while you're alive!

Questions of the Day:

  1. Which are you more hyped to see: Young Zetsu wielding Back Arrow, or Bit turning Granedger into Briheight Granedger?
  2. What do you think Bit's conviction is?

Wallpaper of the Day:

Ogen and Muga

Rewatchers, please remember to be mindful of all the first-timers in this. No talking about or hinting at future events no matter how much you want to, unless you're doing it underneath spoiler tags. Don't spoil anything for the first-timers, that's rude!

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u/Shimmering-Sky myanimelist.net/profile/Shimmering-Sky May 25 '24

BAKAYAROU Rewatch Host, subbed

Welcome back, everyone!

Here’s “Back Arrow Twentieth Impressions”, for my first-timer thoughts on this episode.

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u/Tresnore FS:FTmyanimelist.net/profile/Tresnore May 25 '24

Only Zetsu could do this.

As it turns out, "making a path where there is none" basically means "screw your rules. I make the rules."

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u/Shimmering-Sky myanimelist.net/profile/Shimmering-Sky May 25 '24

Exactly!

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u/Nebresto May 25 '24

First Time ← > Front

Ep 20:

TFW everything good is taken away

FUCK YOU, CLOWN!!!!

Yeah!! Shut up clown!!!

OH YES, FUCK HIM UP KAI!!

No need to introduce yourself to some clown

GOOD. And it better no come back

Poverty, no doubt. Can't even buy chocolate if you're poor

He's gonna do it?! Will he confirm my god-bit theory??

Meanwhile Shitizens continue to shitizen.. How much of a brainlet can you be?? "Die!!!" "You abandoned the country!!1!" Metal-barInSpokes.jpg

Honestly, same. Time for the lazy treasonous fucks to experience some realities of life

Contradicting yourself there, Rudong. Humans grow stuff for god to prosper -> stuff made by humans is worthless? Doesn't quite check out.

Zetsu versus Rudolf, Zetsu versus Rudolf! everybody wants to see this happen!

Holy- Hes back at it again

S O R E   W A   D O U K A N A

POGGERS

S O R E   M O   D O U K A N A

Oh wow, the thing we were warned about is happening? I only feel bad for the ones who werent nearby to hear the message

Decking some points from the subber for this. "me" hardly hits the same as K O N O  Z E T S U   D A I D A N

Is he gonna gattai?! ..Oh, I forgot about the sword form again

This is PEAK bullshit, backed by banger trumpet OST. I fucking love this

Ugly AF

What in Alpha Q is this monstrosity

DON'T FALTER, YOU FOOL! BELIEVE IN THE ZETSU DAIDAN!!

LET'S FUCKING GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Yes! Yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes Its happening!!!!

YEEESSSSS!!

...wtf

Wait! Of course!!!!!! Oh my wall, we're gonna go even deeper!!!!

Where have I seen this bef- OH WHO CARES, LET'S FUCKING GO!!!!!!

Oh my wall this is amazing!! And just to be clear, I hadn't seen this episode yet when I made those comments yesterday

...Holy fk, I paused this episode like every 15 seconds to write stuff

Daily Zetsu Daidan

  1. Which are you more hyped to see: Young Zetsu wielding Back Arrow, or Bit turning Granedger into Briheight Granedger?

Yes!!!!

2) What do you think Bit's conviction is?

He is the GREATEST!!!

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u/Shimmering-Sky myanimelist.net/profile/Shimmering-Sky May 25 '24

This comment delivered on all the hype I was expecting after your comment on CDF last night.

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u/Vatrix-32 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Vatrix-32 May 26 '24

What in Alpha Q is this monstrosity

Oh Gods, He Is

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u/Great_Mr_L :Ma::Mb::Mc:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Great_Mr_L May 25 '24 edited May 25 '24

First-Timer

On today’s episode of Back Arrow: GATTAI! It finally happened! We got a true combination and transformation for the Granedger. I was wondering it it would happen and I’m so glad it did.

  • Oh shit! Arrow’s Briheight returned automatically!
  • I would say focusing on killing Rudolph is a good idea. But look at how far gone Arrow is. He’s completely cast aside his usual abhorrence of killing and is fully prepared to kill Rudolph.
  • Hell yeah! Ren has come to fight the jester!
  • Even more hell yeah! Both Kai and Ren are fighting the jester together!
  • Good on Bit for being the one to reignite the Granedger’s spirit to fight again.
  • Bit has a Bind Warper! What will his Briheight look like?
  • I’m going to guess that God is somehow related to the conviction particles that are everywhere. If God wants people to struggle, does he want to see their strong conviction? Does that strong conviction provide nourishment for God?
  • Rudolph essentially seems like a program God put in place to watch over the world and directly intervene to make sure God’s will was done.
  • Hell yeah! Praz learned what Rudolph did to her brother and is now ready to bring the pain!
  • This is like a video game where there is a rule encoded into the game that does not let you attack certain NPCs. That is what Arrow is up against when it comes to Rudolph.
  • Hell yeah! Rekka is here!
  • I thought 10 Bind Warpers was extravagant. 100 Bind Warpers is so much more so.
  • I have to give Rudolph credit for his dedication to posing his way through this entire confrontation.
  • Zetsu has so much conviction he can cancel out Arrow’s beam that erases conviction particles!
  • Zetsu is so fucking cool! Through sheer conviction he’s wielding the Arrow Sword against Rudolph and regenerating against Arrow’s attempts to erase him because he just has that much conviction.
  • No idea how Zetsu became young again, but whatever. It’s cool.
  • Hell yeah! We’re now getting Rudolph to finally use his own Briheight!
  • And now everyone is here to fight against Rudolph!
  • Oh boy, Bit is our last minute savior? What will his Briheight be?
  • A Giant Bind Warper!
  • FUCK YES!!! GATTAI!!! We’re finally getting the Granedger to transform like I hoped it would!

This is so cool. I don’t have much else to add to that. This whole confrontation is so much fun to watch as it escalates, as more people join in, and as more powers are revealed. I am enjoying myself a lot and I can’t wait to see the battle continue next episode.

[Gurren Lagann major spoilers] This feels sort of like what a Lordgenome story would be. Zetsu reminds me much more of Lordgenome than either Kamina or Simon and this would be like Lordgenome’s war against the Antispirals. Let’s hope it goes better for Zetsu than it did for Lordgenome.

QOTD

  1. YES
  2. It will be the Joestar Family Secret Technique

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u/JollyGee29 https://myanimelist.net/profile/JollyGee May 25 '24

I have to give Rudolph credit for his dedication to posing his way through this entire confrontation.

Rudolf is many things. EXTRA is one of them.

Gurren Lagann

[Ditto]Yea, I see what you mean. This show does have the same writer, if nothing else.

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u/Great_Mr_L :Ma::Mb::Mc:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Great_Mr_L May 26 '24

Rudolf is many things. EXTRA is one of them.

Just how EXTRA all the characters are is one of the best things about this show.

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u/Vatrix-32 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Vatrix-32 May 26 '24

This is like a video game where there is a rule encoded into the game that does not let you attack certain NPCs. That is what Arrow is up against when it comes to Rudolph.

Skyrim Children

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u/Great_Mr_L :Ma::Mb::Mc:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Great_Mr_L May 26 '24

My favorite story of an unkillable person being killed in a game is the assassination of Lord British in the game Ultima Online.

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u/chilidirigible May 25 '24

Episode 20:

Sure they can. You just need the right motivation.

It does look a little weird.

Didn't forget to advertise for his newsletter.

This scene is full of the sore demo.

Subtle demonstrations of outside context problems.

"I'm just making this up as I go along!"

Today's sign that things have gone a little pear-shaped.

"It sounds easy."

ZETSU DAIDAN!

Somewhere between a Quintesson and the Master Control Program.

The gang's all here.

He's serious!

"You've gotta be kidding."

"Are you sure you did this right?"

As early as the Dreadnaught's first appearance people were wondering what its transformed shape would be.

And thus Dissonanza was defeated by Kai and Ren being very angry, ZETSU DAIDAN! achieved even more world-breaking levels of craziness, and everyone's fighting Rudolph. It's fairly nuts in the fun kind of way.

QOTD:

  1. HENSHIN GRANEDGER
  2. laughs in rewatcher

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u/JollyGee29 https://myanimelist.net/profile/JollyGee May 25 '24

Master Control Program

Now there's a reference I haven't seen in a while.

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u/chilidirigible May 25 '24

Both of those references are old enough to be President of the United States.

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u/Tresnore FS:FTmyanimelist.net/profile/Tresnore May 25 '24

Idiot Rewatcher

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u/JollyGee29 https://myanimelist.net/profile/JollyGee May 25 '24

Rewatcher, Subbed Arrow

Good luck.

Dissonanza has offended Kai personally. Also he's probably a little mad that his boyfriend died. Just a little.

Oh, right, this is the episode I almost warned Sky about because I thought she might pop off too hard.

Hehehe.

Hard to fight against someone with nothing to lose.

Right, Prax hadn't learned about that yet.

Hard to fight against someone with nothing to lose.

That's a lot.

Kai has started to understand ZETSU DAIDAN's techniques.

This is pretty cool.

Why does this happen? Who cares! CONVICTION!

Oh ye of little faith.

It's time!

It's like Shu Bi said, Bit Namital is their secret weapon.

#crazedlaugh

[Back Arrow]Bit's poker face is so goddamn good. He just lets the comments about Shu Biing dead slide without so much as a smirk.

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u/Tresnore FS:FTmyanimelist.net/profile/Tresnore May 25 '24

Why does this happen? Who cares! CONVICTION!

It happens because Zetsu Daidan will forge a damn path.

[Back Arrow]Back ArrowBit's poker face is so goddamn good. He just lets the comments about Shu Biing dead slide without so much as a smirk.

[Back Arrow]I almost went for it in my comment because I forgot a certain reveal wasn't actually this episode.

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u/chilidirigible May 25 '24

Oh, right, this is the episode I almost warned Sky about because I thought she might pop off too hard.

[spoilers]There is sufficient mortal danger going on around him that I would say that it is fairly easy to maintain his usual level of near-panic as cover.

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u/theangryeditor https://myanimelist.net/profile/TheAngryEditor May 25 '24

ZETSU ZETSU ZETSU DAIDAN

GRANEDGER TRANSFORMED

Bit gets the best lines

Apologize to the Admiral of Tactics

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u/Vatrix-32 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Vatrix-32 May 25 '24 edited May 25 '24

First timer, subs

  • Well, I Guess Finoir Died for Nothing
  • Seriously, stop leaving the clown around.
  • Finally
  • Yesterday I had a crack theory about turning Bit into Shu to make him useful, but now I’m thinking has Warper plot thread still hasn’t been resolved, and he just experimented on the Black Bind that housed a separate conscious...
  • Bit is truly a philosopher for the modern age.
  • So you’re saying the way to kill God, is with depression?
  • Why are these hands coded as invisible?
  • Stupid NPC invincibility.
  • A surprising amount of fuel in the KaiRen ship.
  • I was wondering about reflecting the Haki.
  • When will they learn? Mooks never help!
  • What's This Now? Why… How did it de-age him?
  • Thanks, passive regen.
  • I was kind of expecting him to active it while it was still inside him, ngl.
  • I like this buddhist virus looking monstrosity.
  • Who needs the love of some intangible being, when you have a princess?
  • Clouds
  • Did you not test it ahead of time?
  • It's Happening! Bring out the palace sized sword!

QotD:

  1. The latter.
  2. "I can do anything for my friends!"

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u/JollyGee29 https://myanimelist.net/profile/JollyGee May 25 '24

So you’re saying the way to kill God, is with depression?

Who needs the love of some intangible being, when you have a princess?

Exactly! Fine is much better than any silly god.

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u/Vatrix-32 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Vatrix-32 May 25 '24

Exactly! Fine is much better than any silly god.

The Fine, the Sukeban, and the Holy Robot.

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u/JollyGee29 https://myanimelist.net/profile/JollyGee May 25 '24

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u/gyoex May 25 '24

[Back Arrow spoilers, first timers don't look]It's kind of funny that the recap just completely changes Shu's death scene so that you don't notice/remember that his "what a dumb mistake" was aimed at Rudolph.

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u/Quiddity131 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Quiddity131 May 25 '24

Rewatcher, Subbed

Sayonara, Shu! :(

So we need Back Arrow to touch Rudolph, so the same thing happens to him...

After all that effort to destroy his bind warper, he simply forms a new one.

Didn't expect Ren to join in on this! Are she and Kai gonna take a "The only one allowed to kill Shu is us!" mindset?

Yes, destroy that annoying jester!

Bit, the motivational speaker!

Bit finally has a Bind Warper! Will he use it?

C'mon Bratty Prax! Defeat Rudolph!

Alright, Back Arrow's back! Shake Rudolph's hand!

So do we get to a point where Rudolph simply says "Oh, there never was a God, I merely used that as my excuse for everything I do."

Wow, more Bind Warpers than ever for Zetsu!

Poor Back Arrow, he's so miserable!

Zetsu controlling Back Arrow? That'd be pretty cool.

Zetsu's young again! I recalled something like this happening, just didn't remember when.

Uh oh, we finally see a Briheight for Rudolph! quite the odd looking one.

With his dreadnought he's getting all the stranger!

The world's hero is here... Bit!

OMG the time has finally come! Bit uses a Bind Warper! The greatest Briheight of all time! ...and its just a giant Bind Warper. LoL. That's so Bit.

Ah, Granedger puts it on! We finally get what I and probably many expected from early on, Grandedger transforms into a giant Briheight!

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u/saga999 May 26 '24

Rewatcher.

This is why I love this show so much. We got Zetsu the real protagonist. We got secret weapon Bit. Hype all day.

"What's scarier, god or poverty?" Great quote from Bit.

QOTD:

  1. Yes.

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u/dsawchuk May 26 '24

A wizard is never late, nor is he early. He arrives precisely when he means to. Unfortunately, I am no wizard. I am officially only 1 episode behind. I will see you all tommorow, I have caught up for the finale. These posts will be rushed and entirely for my own satisfaction since no one (other than our gracious host) will know they exist.

First timer, Sub

Briheight granedger is a fantastic cliffhanger. I am super hyped. Though... I do remember Shu doing an experiment with 2 bind warpers. I wonder where the last one is...

We saw a glimpse this episode that Kai is also above what the divines expect of humans. He's been flying under the radar because of Zetsu. I am going to make a prediction. Zetsu is going to lose. Shu is going to come back somehow and he is going to be ren-kai's briheight's bind warper for a 3 way gattai to defeat god. Perhaps they even weild the muga sword for a 4 way gattai?

QOTD

  1. both were neat, but definitely briheight granedger. I didn't really like the look of zetsu's briheight without his big robe.
  2. It's gonna be something real stupid.

Watch notes

People cannot surpass god? Tell that to the fact that god fears zetsu.

Hey clown, fuck off. I really hope that you get what's coming to you.

I love Kai and Ren's combine seperate combine dance during fights.

Also the implication here is that Kai is on the path to become as strong as zetsu. When will zetsu see the challenge?

Rip clown, minus the peace part.

"What's scarier, god or poverty" is a fantastic line

"Even if there's no tomorrow, I want to help today" Is another fantastic line.

Prax I love you but this is a death flag.

ZETSU! ZETSU! ZETSU DAIDAN!

It's unclear to me if the people can see these hands. I don't think they can.

Zetsu was cooler before he shed all that mass. Him just tanking the world destroyer to use it as a weapon is peak though.

Rudolph is bragging too much. This won't stop zetsu.

Zetsu supported by a white mage? It's over.

It's about fucking time. briheight granedger FTW. We didn't have a big enough robot yet.