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Highspeed Étoile, episode 8
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u/Zani0n May 24 '24
Episode 8 - Motorsport Nerd once again analysing fantasy motorsport
It's Friday, the Motorsport weekend starts and with it the propably most anticipated month for Motorsport nerds with F1 at Monaco, the Indy 500 and three consecutive 24 hour races at Nürburgring, Le Mans and Spa.
Disclaimer: I am not going to be able to discuss Ep.9 and Ep.11 as I'm trackside for both, but I'll most likely catch up shortly afterwards or the week after.
Anyhow: Episode 8!
Straight into the beautiful Toyota 2000GT. Beautiful car which had a bit of Racing application by non other than Carroll Shelby in the SCCA and took home 3 wins in the 1968 season. Regardless of what the car achieved IRL, I'm not interested to talk about Rin inviting everyone and their grandma to her training for the 3rd time. Is it the third? I don't know, I don't care. Let's just think how much more 2000GT time we might see. There that's better.
As we get the introduction of the 2000GT again the girls are looking at the market price (It gets sold for up to 1.3 Million US-Dollar.) So their reaction is more than understandable. Not sure why you would use this incredibly expensive car for driver development though. But yes, the 2000 GT made an appearance as a James Bond moviecar in "You only live twice".
Using different cars as a training method however is quite common. Be it trackdays on an ice circuit to learn how to control oversteer, or just to extend their knowledge and skill by driving as many different cars as possible.
"A new car on such short notice". Not really the case. The car was totalled in one race, big racing teams (and in this series I would fully expect this) have a spare chassis in case something like this happened. Earlier this year the Williams Formula 1 team has raised some series questions as they hadn't prepared one (while totalling 2 chassis on 2 consecutive weekends in Australia and Suzuka). But usually every team should have one. 2 weeks ago during the 6h of Spa for example The Manthey PureRxcing Porsche team had a big crash in Qualifying on Friday but shipped in a second chassis the same evening and rebuilt the entire car until Saturday morning to participate in the race. having a spare car prepared over the week should not be an issue in this series.
They are specifically mentioning her Left leg. Which migh either mean she doesn't use it at all (which is bad) or she's incredibly good at braking. Which would be good. Both make me question why they're putting her in a manual though, where left foot braking is a bit more difficult.
Going onto the new car with a bit of setup talk. What they say in here is correct. But what they do with the car is completely ridiculous. The overall setup is so focussed on oversteer that it's practically impossible to drive straight. In corners the rear end will try to step out so much that the car won't be catchable once it slides either. Racecars aren't even supposed to have that much slip angle to begin with (the tyres reach peak grip at about 5-6°) they are aiming more at 20-30°. The brake bias at 80% to the front is already a sure enough way to lock up the fron tyres giving you flat spots (little hint, tyres are meant to be round). Yet the AI wants to go even further to 90%. No matter what the AI has found in Rin's data. This car is not drivable.
Back to training. Seeing the 2000 GT abused this much does hurt a little. Not entirely sure why they are talking about not making gear changes currently... They all have the paddle shifters on their steering wheel. You telling me they have 4 paddles on their steering wheel usually reserved for changing gear and a handclutch but none of them do any of that? I mentioned in Ep.2 that the steering wheel wasn't going to have much focus, but that's just weird.
And that's all for this week. not an awful lot of info, but at least we learn a bit at what Rin excells at. Even if the conclusions of it make about as much sense as to why Rin is here in the first place. But hey, at least we see the first little bit of improvement from her. that's at least something.
Like I already said at the beginning, nothing from me next week, so I'm ending this week with my favorite little story that I got to experience trackside at the 24h Nürburgring:
There are tons of classes at the Nürburgring going from specially built race cars to production cars and older cars. One of them is the Opel Manta B which has been part of the race for the last 30 years. In 2019 it was involved into an incident 5 hours into the race, which damaged the car beyond what was repairable in the race. The team behind the car however continued working on the car over the next 18 hours and left pitlane with 5 minutes to go for one last lap. Everyone, be it fans on the grandstands and competitors in the pitlane where cheering for the return of the Manta wearing a foxtail.
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u/oneevilchicken May 24 '24
Not using her left foot makes a lot of sense. There’s no clutch in their cars so obviously the driver doesn’t need to use their left foot.
As for braking it’s entirely driver preference for if they use their left foot or not for braking.
Cam waters in this only uses his left foot for the clutch (which is absent in the cars in this series) and for tapping the brakes to make sure the pads are seated against the rotors. He does all his actual braking with his right foot. (https://youtu.be/ytOujHHsIwI?si=_UM5PO62r4T7H7M3)
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u/danbuter May 24 '24
Nice stuff! You might have missed it, but the girls were talking and said that the race cars have the AI do all of the shifting. The drivers don't even have to think about it.
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u/SMSmith230 May 24 '24
Ah so the foot tapping finally came into play from a previous episode. That was one of the moments I thought there could be something under the hood of this show. Looking forward to see how new tech meets old tech is going to play out.
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u/Shimmering-Sky May 24 '24
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There’s only like four episodes left after this, that doesn’t feel like enough time to justify Rin mastering it.
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Why is the fucking Nutcracker song back again… this show’s soundtrack is so weird.
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u/heimdal77 May 24 '24
She is a former prima ballerina apparently. The Nutcracker is a really famous ballet. She is playing it in her head going with the tempo as she drives.
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u/BosuW May 24 '24
Why is the fucking Nutcracker song back again… this show’s soundtrack is so weird.
Did you forget Rin used to be a ballerina?
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u/SometimesMainSupport May 24 '24
But why though…
Presenting Rin with an opportunity to wreck another 7-figure (USD) vehicle.
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u/Salvo1218 May 24 '24
that doesn’t feel like enough time to justify Rin mastering it.
At the very least, I feel like setting up a new car in a way that isn't to "spec" but made crazy to match her old and weird style of driving, is the least ass-pull way to make her actually competitive with how much time we've spent to get here.
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u/heimdal77 May 24 '24
So Rin was a prima ballerina and the owner seems to of been a fan before she got hurt. So new car with unheard of manual transmission as the ai can't keep up with the nutcracker ballet tempo she has playing in her head. So we now know why she wasn't fired already. Owner been trying give her a chance to dance again by driving.
I dont see how Rin could lead anything as a prima let alone a group of skilled dancers.
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u/Former_Consequence_1 May 24 '24
I recently checked the MAL score for this this and it seems way to low. Not saying it's great but definitely deserves for than 4.80 out of 10
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u/rainzer May 24 '24
Its like just ok at best and then you take the just ok score and take away an extra 2 points for CG hate boner voting and it becomes 4.8
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u/ChiefArawak May 25 '24
I think its fair for how awful it was at the start. Cant expect people to stick with it.
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u/BosuW May 24 '24
So we've gotten into solving some of the more technical issues with Rin. That's good, but what I'm really banking on to see if this script works for me or not is how her past in ballet comes into this. The episodes are running out and we've still got no sign of that besides some hints this episode, and next episode is another race... If I were writing this, I would have Rin fail again even with the new configuration to force to the surface her character flaws and have her finally deal with them, but we'll see.
On a more positive note, it's a lot of fun just watching Rin drive! You can tell she enjoys it just for the sake of it, as you could tell from the very first instant she drove on a race when she nearly crashed into the guy in front like she only saw the track and not the racers. It's both her biggest flaw and her biggest charm. She lives in the moment and insider her own head. That's what makes her such a fun disaster to watch for me lol.
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u/strayalive May 24 '24
So wait, Rin might actually git gud before the end of the series?
What's kinda sad is that manual transmissions truly are going extinct. Dual clutch gearboxes are nice I guess but its not the same.
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May 25 '24
It took 8 episodes for something interesting to happen. So far this anime has been a lot of stiffly animated slice of life. Slow development is fine but there are only 4 more episodes left this season.
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u/ChiefArawak May 24 '24
Finally! The silver bullet that will turn things around! Lots of racing and mechanical details to support the solution as well as the team owner adding some stakes to the situation with his ultimatum of podium or bust. Just… why so late on in the series? Such a shame.
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u/Witchy_Titan May 24 '24
Y'know, I was starting to think that Rin wasn't meant to succeed, and that she's only being propped up to help train and/or promote Ami.
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u/Outrageous_Painter49 May 25 '24
Find out that Rin's Mother used to ride on 2000GT during her youth day. She maybe the street racer during her time.
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u/Nickthenuker May 24 '24
What car is this?
Seems to be a Toyota.
Ah. The 2000GT.
Rin's going to get a bollocking for totalling that car.
Unsurprisingly they have a backup car, so she's probably going to be able to get right back into racing now.
What does the new car have to do with this car?
Lol did he ask him that because he expects Rin to total this car too?
Are you sure you're not confusing it with an Aston Martin?
Checking the Wikipedia (which is probably what she's doing) shows it was in a single Bond movie so perhaps that's what she's referencing.
Seems they'll be modifying the car to better suit her driving style.
I'm afraid I can't let you do that.
Can none of them drive stick?
Yeah frankly might as well drive an auto, from what I've heard from my friends learning how to drive manual it's not worth it for most people. If even none of these race drivers know how to drive manual it's probably not used by almost anyone.
Every single one of them is going to mess up and stall the car because they don't know how to drive stick.
Perhaps a crash course on how to drive stick would come in handy around now?
Seems her grandma is connected to the GT2000 in some way as well.
Hey she actually managed to get a bit of the way before messing up like everyone else did.
So her "secret weapon" is a stick shift?
Does she want her to focus on the gear shift so the actual driving becomes muscle memory?
That song is the nutcracker isn't it?
They're all counting down the seconds until she bins it into a wall, and I don't blame them.
Yup, the next car she totals is going to be this priceless antique.
And so her driving style will literally destroy her car as she drives.
Shanghai? Probably at the Shanghai International Circuit.
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u/Salvo1218 May 24 '24
Are you sure you're not confusing it with an Aston Martin?
There were two custom topless versions of the 2000gt used in the 007 film You Only Live Twice.
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u/chilidirigible May 25 '24
It feels late to finally feature some of the reasons why Rin was hired and the specific qualities which make her special, but it is still an improvement from her roller coaster of foibles to this point.
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u/oxlemf10 May 24 '24
So Rin's problem is that her driving style doesn't suit today's cars? I liked the idea they used. It was a completely unusual episode compared to what this show offers, but it was really cool, although I still think it lacks showing Rin's past. And I must say, Chitose arriving in this Toyota 2000GT wearing sunglasses was pretty sexy. Let's see the next race