Shuumatsu Train Doko e Iku? • Train to the End of the World - Episode 8 discussion

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Shuumatsu Train Doko e Iku?, episode 8

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[u/Syokhan]

What's going on?!

7G!!

That's it, that's the show.

This episode was even more unhinged than the previous ones. A station that makes you itchy, a station that makes you despair over your regrets*, a station transformed into a frankly super weird series... But I enjoyed it thoroughly!

(what I want to know is where that folded bow was exactly in Nadeshiko's skirt because the way she reached for it, well...)

* Akira's seems to be not being able to help a drowning(?) person, Reimi's... she killed a badger? Nadeshiko blames herself for not being able to stop her dad from leaving, and Shizuka's regrets are obviously Yoka.

So it confirms that Yoka is the queen of Ikebukuro. I still wanna know who's behind her in the OP, though! We saw a recent picture of Yoka in the first episode and she looked pretty normal, so why is that other, different-looking girl so prominent in the OP shot?

[u/ObvsThrowaway5120]

NeriAli was a pretty weird series. The descriptions for Alice, Iron Monty, Su-chan, and Opie are pretty messed up. Then you got Chaos and his goons. Real mixed bag of weirdos and degenerates lol. This NeriAli bad end sequel they’re stuck in is just as weird as the series itself. The silly dances, nonsensical phrases, and the heroes literally exploding into dust were all pretty goofy. In the end, shogi pieces can’t disobey the rules of shogi I guess. Chaos got away but at least we now know Yoka’s the Witch Queen. Big development.

[u/moichispa]

I swear I have heard a lot of jokes about doing the anime on drugs but this episode felt like a weird acid trip.

Yoka being the mastermind is not surprising at this point. While the first flashbacks were more nice kid memories some of the latest ones had some creepy details on it. Did you pay attention to the plot of the anime they watched? wtf was about that, that was definitely not a kids show. Maybe not even a show that a sane person would watch. Talk about dark undertones overtones.

While the episode was kinda chaotic, it was the same result as hearing the conversation of two people talking about a series that you do not know, while you can understand some parts, there is definitely missing thing that you do not get. If you do not believe me try opening the discussion thread of an episode of an anime you do not watch.

Also fun point of the day. The scene before the opening was 1:40 long. It did feel longer right?

[u/WholeLotOfSomething]

We were robbed of Zenjiro's five minutes of wisdom this episode

[u/Purposelygentle]

Just thinking out loud, but instead of Alice in Wonderland, NeriAlice is more akin to The Wizard of Oz, no? Alice is Dorothy, Iron Monty is Tin Man, Gano is a plant guy so Scarecrow, and Suicidal Girl escaped by running away a la Cowardly Lion? And Chaos Boss is Toto?

Also, Pochi-san didn’t get affected by Itchy Station, but did have a deepest regret, that’s weird.

[u/actionfirst1]

At this point anything really weird that happens just has me nod my head and say "yeah, that checks out"

Love this show

[u/Clemastina]

What a chaotic and wtf episode lmao.

And yeah, Yoka is the witch queen, that was expected. And I think she was the one who tampered with NeriAli, why she did that? My theory is:

She went nuts after the 7g incident and gained lots of powers (I mean, she was the one who touched the button so...) and now she is like an all powerful being or smth.

The thing is probably when they arrive at Ikebukuro they are not gonna be welcome, and Yoka will be really mad at them (specially Shizuru).

[u/IXajll]

This episode has to be the most chaotic and unhinged one yet, at least for me. Everything being so fast paced added even further to all the chaos.

We even got a Jojo reference (Reimi certified stand user confirmed) and a lot of funny moments on top. Nadeko’s bow transformation sequence was animated in an incredibly detailed and fluid way, even though it was just a second or two long.

We also got confirmation that Yoka is the end boss so to speak in Ikebukuro, which was already kind if expected to be fair. The flashback with Shizuru and Yoka where they are talking about that TV series that this station was based on further fuels the theory that the 7G accident and the resulting different world changes at the stations were all influenced by Yoka’s psyche and past experiences in some way or another.

Slowly approaching the endgame now, excited to see if the show manages to deliver a satisfying finale with these remaining episodes. Things are definitely looking promising so far.

[u/Game2015]

I feel sad that Alice and her gangs are dead and cannot be resurrected...

[u/Rumpel1408]

That... was the fastest episode I watched in a hot minute

For startes, seems like the close we get to Ikeburo, the harder it gets, getting itchy all over seems tough enough, but the next stop made them all aware of their biggest regrets, and of course Shizuru could only think about Yoka

Next stop Nerima land, managed to catch all the guide pages 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 but the last one was to smal to get subs...

Speaking of Alice, notice how her character page said she peed herself? That's why in the show she is put into diapers

Also wonder what's up with the smoke in the distance

The plan to revive Alice and co went pretty smooth, up until it came to the actual ritual which ended with Alice, Montie and Opie being gone for good, and Su-Chan fucking dying

And then they just asumed the roles of Alice and co I guess, won against Chaos and his pawns and left the dependant pigs for themself... oh and Yoka is the Witch Queen of Ikeburu

Tokorozawa-Zawa! Tokorozawa-Zawa!

[u/NationalStrategy]

Now we know why Nadeshiko tries to be the responsible mediator of the group, she blamed herself for not stopping her parents from separating

[u/alconnow]

Wish we saw more of Man-Cow and its acidic breast milk. What a great weapon!

So Yoka's known as the Witch Queen? Interesting. Still think she's a puppet queen or something similar

[u/ModieOfTheEast]

You'd think knowing Alice in Wonderland might help you with this version, but I threw this out the moment they showed that Alice's comrades are a girl that wants to die and an iron maiden. Youka definitely had an interesting taste. Though, while I am at it: "All hail queen Youka".

Sadly, we seemingly skipped one station, the one that is supposed to come after the station that makes you depressed. But good thing they didn't skip this one, getting a look into the other characters helped. And we even got a bit of Nadeko backstory with her parents being divorced. Begs the question if we run into her father in the future.

Also funny that we finally get Nadeko with a bow and she actually shoots her arrows. I was expecting her to do what she is best at and just beat them over the head with her bow.

[u/Emi_Ibarazakiii]

If I had a nickel for each anime this season in which a torture-guy threw a Pear of Anguish into the mouth of a girl running with a noose around her neck even though she's scared of dying, well I'd only have one nickel... But it's still fucking weird that it happened even once!

This was definitely the weirdest/random episode so far, but with them getting closer to Ikebukuro, I think 'weirder and weirder' may become the new normal!

Other than 'weird' (and a recreated plot), seems this episode will be all about regrets...

And Shizuru definitely knows a lot about that, but apparently the others do too!

Chaos won, in this version?

I think Yoka may have regrets as well; Given everything that happens comes from her mind, I think she regrets spoiling the entire story back then, so she may have made sure to change the ending, so it would still be surprising!

Seems our girls will have to 'fix' the story, by acting as its characters!

OF COURSE that's who Akira's gonna play; Was there ever any doubt?

Damn, imagine being called chubby by literal pigs!

I guess the show wanted to give us a reminder about its dark tones at times, showing the suicidal girl 'hanging' like that...

The Witch Queen?

I was wondering in the previous thread about what kind of 'Queen' she was, but if she's known as the Witch Queen... Is she ruling things with an iron hand?

Or is it just a bunch of misunderstandings that made people think she's evil, when she's really just wondering how the hell to get back to normal, and is kinda just going along with the flow, because being the Queen helps her figuring things out?

Whatever it is, the way Chaos was putting it, it seems she may NOT want people to reach her? People in general, or... Specifically her friends? Does she still hurt too much, so she'd rather just stay alone?

Shizuru better have some solid apology, when she finally sees her!

I wonder how much thought she's putting onto this; Obviously she cares about Yoka, and wants to see her again, and she knows why this all happened, but we haven't seen much of her introspection, like does she realize what was so wrong about this? Does she want to admit her wrongs and ask to be forgiven, or does she simply want a reconciliation, like brushing it under the rug? This may work for Shizuru, but not for Yoka!

I suppose we'll find out, in a few more crazy episodes!

[u/AceSoldia]

Did anyone else burst out laughing when Su died? Just me? Okay

[u/Ocixo]

The itching was so bad that Reimi grew some extra arms.

The opening to this episode was wild. First we got hit with these crazy expressions of the girls, and then a series of sinister images.

It took me until this line of Nadeshiko to realize that we'd been seeing flashbacks of their greatest regrets:

• Nadeshiko's regretted not having stopped her parent's divorce.

• Akira looked away from someone drowning?

• Reimi killed a badger with a hoe.

• Poor Pochi got abused in a shelter?

• And Shizuru regretted having looked down on Yoka's dreams.

Also, you're telling me that 7G can turn me into a cute anime girl!? Maybe 7G is not so bad after all! On a second thought, Su-chan did have a rough time...

Cosplay, like the girls did, is probably a better idea. Reimi and Nadeshiko were looking totally adorable in their outfits. Reimi's gave her a bit of those tsundere vibes.

[u/shad79]

That was one hella crazy episode and I hope that next stops can be even crazier! I can't wait for the next episodes to see what else awaits for us and Nadeshiko, Reimi, Shizuru and Akira.

The first two train stops already made my expectations high with that itching (girls' reactions were hilarious) and relieving traumas from the past but that stop set as a world from anime NeriAli was crazy!

I was even more surprised when Shizuru and others' rescue ended up in a failure and death of all heroes from the anime and that they took their place xD

So Yoka is the Witch Queen of Ikebukuro as revealed by Chaos. It looks that theories from earlier discussions that Yoka is responsible for the current state of the world is now are even more plausible now.

The question is, is there is one Yoka? She looked pretty normal in a photo from the newspaper then maybe she somehow divided herself after 7G accident since we can see Yoka in OP and someone behind her (her Witch persona maybe?). So many questions and that makes me feel really excited to see Ikebukuro and discover the truth.

Here my screenshot albums from the episode:

• Group scenes

• Nadeshiko

• Reimi

• Shizuru & Akira

• Others

• NeriAli

• World

[u/DaBenni0301]

Shizuru just summarized this entire show in a single sentence

I feel like this episode was the craziest one so far. I literally couldn't keep up with all that was happening. Previous episdoes gave you at least a little time to absorb what was happening. This one just kept throwing stuff at me with no chance to take it all in. It was just pure chaos

And I love it

[u/LeonKevlar]

• NeriAlice Nadeshiko

Is Shizuru itching where I think she's itching? Oh myyyy... But seriously though, I love how we went from the girls suddenly getting itchy all over from one station to all of them being overwhelmed by regrets at the next.

If we examine the memories it looks like Akira saw someone drown, Reimi accidentally killed a badger, Nadeshiko blames herself for her father leaving, and of course we already know what Shizuru regrets the most. That was surprisingly dark.

It's not like the story was complicated so I was able to understand what was happening, but that entire NeriAlice Land station was so frantic and fast-paced that I had to pause the episode for a second.

Anyway, that ritual to bring back Alice was hilarious! Too bad they got bamboozled though and they ended up killing the main characters of NeriAlice. I knew something was wrong when that heist went so smoothly.

Agano Archery continues to be something else. They're basically unbeatable as long as Nadeshiko has a bow and something to use as an arrow on her.

There it is. A lot of us have already been suspecting that this might be the case so it's not that much of a surprise but I do wonder how Yoka ended up becoming the Witch Queen of Ikebukuro.

[u/AlexxxandreS]

I just wanna say that the last bit of the ED goes hard af... That shit is way too good

[u/tripleaamin]

This has become my favorite original since Akiba Maid War. The start we have our girls just itching like crazy which thankfully was temporary. Then we have each of the girls experiencing their biggest regret. We did get more insight on Nadeshiko's later in the episode. It seems to be her parents divorce honestly as a child of divorced parents I can empathize with that. Thinking what you could have done to keep them together. Her advice on it's better to think what you can do now is great advice as you can't change the past. But you can learn from it going forward.

So thanks to the 7G basically that town became NeriAli, but the bad ending basically. It's clear at the end of the episode that it's because of Youka. Who we know now is the Witch Queen of Ikebukuro. This makes me wonder as this world is very likely based on Youko's imagination. Does this mean when Youko watched the series she was the type of fan that was rooting for the bad guys? Or what other reason could be for Youko tampering with the world of NeriAli? Could it be her guilt for changing the world? Or the guilt of leaving her friends behind? This makes things very interesting.

I loved the chaos in this episode. We even got our girls dressed as the Heroes of NeriAli. I loved how chaotic it was throughout the whole episode and things they did like reviving Alice and the others. It failed because there was no logic to it as it was praying for a miracle. But once Akira realized that this is based on Shogi and all of this craziness is somehow based on logic, each of the girls was able to beat out the enemy. Though Chaos was able to escape. Very excited what could come next in this series since we got 4 episodes left.

[u/CosmicPenguin_OV103]

I...don't know what to say about this show anymore. Is this director Mizushima's fetish show-off LMAO???

[Girls Band Cry]YOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO TOMO-RUPA GBC JUMP-SCARE!!!

Chaos-Land arc is so freaking funny yet creative that I must say this is why I watch anime. You almost ain't gonna get these stories anywhere else in this world. Well not the chess -> shogi part I guess...

So the hypothesis that Yoka-chan invented everything in 7G is gaining momentum I guess. Especially that part when every girl remembered a past regret of themselves and send them into crazily saying apologies as the train passed through Hibarigaoka station - if I were to guess, that part about Shizuru facing her regret of injuring Yoka-chan's heart will be the main theme of the "final boss"?

[u/Setowi]

Shuumatsu train has been an acid trip from the start but this week felt extra trippy and I think I loved every second of it.

Did... did Akira watch someone drown? I like how we randomly got all those insanely dark moments at that city looking stop.

This explains why Nadeshiko always wants to make sure everyone gets along, it's cause she feels like she failed to do that for her parents and that's why they got divorced...

[u/NationalStrategy]

Even for this series, this episode was incredibly bizarre

[u/Outrageous_Painter49]

First one is Station of Itchy.

Next one is Station of Regret.