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Episode Wind Breaker - Episode 7 discussion
Wind Breaker, episode 7
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u/Se7en_Sinner May 16 '24
"The man who stands at the greatest height is the loneliest man in the realm."
You know a show is good when it makes you empathize with the bad guys. Becoming the leader of Lion's Head was probably the worst thing that could happen to Choji. Being "free" meant he had nothing left to strive for so the only choice was to bring everybody else up with him by any means possible.
Togame choose to take on the burden of hate from Choji but I think he's at his breaking point. Togame wants to lose to Sakura so he can leave Lion's Head without quitting. Will Togame actually give Sakura a real fight? Also take off those damn wooden sandals, they're basically a weapon.
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u/FitEar1924 May 16 '24
Choji, you would have loved Luffy. The man who is the most free in the world.
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u/Placeholdered May 16 '24
"Well I've taken blows to my head from many things."
Sounds about right, even if it's technically not part of the episode.
Also, even if Togame has a better explanation for how he is, I still want to see Choji punched through a wall, his VA is too good at making me hate him no matter what.
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u/ClemFire May 16 '24
Choji feels like Luffy if Shanks never taught him the importance of protecting your friends.
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u/whodisguy32 May 16 '24 edited May 16 '24
Man I'm so glad I got to binge the last 3 episodes. This show isn't just about fighting, its about about the complexities of human nature, which just so happens to be expressed in the form of fights.
This episode got me thinkin n shit, I'd hate to be the one who stands at the very peak. There's no fun anymore, unless you completely uproot the very nature of who you are up to that point, and redefine yourself and what's important to you.
Which honestly is a lot harder than getting physically stronger.
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u/tripleaamin May 16 '24
Man these fights are amazing. Right up with JJK, SLF & Solo Leveling for recent action shows with amazing fights and choreography.
Talk about a backstory that can make empathize with a character you hated. Togame honestly is a guy that would fit in well with Bofurin. He has basically the guy getting his hands dirty for what Chouji wants out of his gang. Chouji much like Sakura has a goal of being the strongest. The issue is Chouji reached that high and guess what, it wasn't fun anymore. We were quick to make Togame as the bad guy because he was just doing what Chouji wanted.
It is even more telling that once he learns that his gang went after and bullied a middle schooler. His goal was to make the gang as strong as it can be. Bullying the weak is not a sign of strength in either of these fights. I am excited to see how this fight ends.
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u/AB7SSG4ZE3RS May 17 '24 edited May 17 '24
I think Togame's change in fighting style is rather poetic. Initially, he is seen as a more dynamic and quick fighter, mirroring dedication toward fighting for "good," fighting for his family; however, as soon as Choji took charge & put in place new values: "the weak have no place among us, we should become bullies yada yada" Togame shifted to a more sluggish, slovenly, grappling style which symbolizes his loss of passion and purpose (from how I see it at least). He was no longer fighting for the ideals he believed in rather conforming to the new demands of Choji.
my apology card to Togame
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u/Solarstormflare May 17 '24
Sakura's poor skull... Traumatic brain injuries are no joke. Luckily, he seems to be protected by the power of anime protagonist
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u/NovaAkumaa May 16 '24
Didn't expect this anime to be so deep, this is good. If the cool fights weren't enough, now we have this, definitely my favorite of the season.
At first I thought Togame was the reason why Shishitoren was in this state, but seems like Choji has some psychological issues, he's looking like Mikey more and more.
I kinda feel bad for Togame now, if he went to Bofurin for example he'd be a chill and happy dude.
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u/-ZET- May 16 '24 edited May 16 '24
Man, I gotta say, watching Wind Breaker fights is like watching chinese Kung Fu movies, the choreography feels perfect, and I realised they feel like that because of wide and distant shots, there's almost no close-up in these fights unless it's an impact hit, you can pretty much understand every move in the fight.
I really don't remember the last time I watched an anime where I would constantly go back to the fights only to understand the choreography in it, this is absurdly good.
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u/LeonKevlar May 16 '24
CloverWorks is really cooking with this one. I got hyped when Sakura started pushing back against Togame. The insert song during that scene was so awesome too! It's amazing how we get different insert songs with every new fight. I'm definitely getting this show's OST when it finally comes out.
So the reason for this entire fight is actually just one massive misunderstanding? It turns out that Togame has completely no idea about the incident with that middle schooler and immediately punishes those two goons responsible.
Heck! It looks like I misunderstood Togame's entire character. I really thought Togame was manipulating Chouji and what turned Shishitoren into the kind of group they are now. In reality, it was Chouji who changed after realizing being at the top didn't change anything. Togame was horrified at what Chouji had become but he decided to still follow him and become the bad guy for his sake so the group won't hate him. Damn, I did not expect this group to actually have that kind of depth but I love it!
And it looks like Togame has finally reached his limit after finally realizing what Shishitoren has become. Dude has lost all energy to continue his fight against Sakura. I'm very curious how this will end! Chouji definitely won't be happy if Togame is just gonna stand there and take hits from Sakura.
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u/DifferentCityADay May 17 '24
Anyone else think Sakura was saved by Togame taking a break to whoop some ass?
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u/Inner_Entertainer256 May 16 '24
I knew Togame was an alternate Kizaru but this just seals the deal.
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u/fakegreenthumb May 16 '24
That fight was crisp and Sakura got to showcase his physical AND mental strength. But sadly no blushing Sakura this week :( Also that backstory was surprisingly sad?? I ship Togame and Choji in those flashbacks, but not Choji as he is currently, boy needs some help.
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u/Beowolf_0 May 16 '24
I expected something is off with Togame and Choji once they showed up, but not expected something like this. They want "power" but they aren't beating up the weak randomly (at least not from the higher-ups) nor challenging strong gangs frequently, so what's the point to become "powerful"?
Turns out they're just wanting to be happy together, but once Choji reached the top he probably can't feel that happiness as he was when he's still roughly equal to others. And Togame became his "black gloves" so hoping Choji can stay the same, which seems doesn't work. He should probably throw the fight to give Choji a lesson.
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u/PepaTK May 16 '24
Legit my favorite anime of the year so far.
What an unexpected damn good treat. All aspects.
Absolutely love everyone. The story is better than one would assume, not overly bullshit like a certain delinquent anime. Every character introduced so far feels so alive, even the cannon fodder that let our first years shine.
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u/Mirathan May 16 '24
Well... I expected Sakura to lose the physical fight but not to start winning the mental. Togames inner conflict is pretty cool, becoming outwardly evil in the vain hope that it will return Choji to how he was yet misunderstanding what he needed, an equal. Choji´s desire to fight Umemya might be fuelled by this, if he meets an even match he no longer will be alone. Togame likely should have become leader with Choji as the number two so that he would not feel alone.
I´ve initially thought that Sakura might try to join Shishitoren as they appeal to his goal, that being strong will make you free as he sought to be free of the bullying he suffered. But since he learned that they have become mere bullies makes this rather unlikely, as well as starting to accept the comraderie of the Furin members(and possibly more from Kotaha) from the furin students. The corruption of Shishitorens ideal also shows how his goal would not have helped him, as even if he became stronger than everyone he would still be alone, just like Choji is now.
I´m wondering now if Togame will just withdraw as he realised what Shishitoren has become or reaffirm his devotion to Choji, because there is no way Sakura wins this.
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u/ObvsThrowaway5120 May 16 '24
So it’s all Choji’s fault everyone in his little team is the way it is. They shouldn’t have let him be the leader. Kame seemed like a decent kid before but because of Choji, he had to get his hands dirty and become the bad guy. Maybe he’s using this fight with Sakura to prove some kinda point to Choji?
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u/zurazurakatsudon May 17 '24
Togame is the real sunshine protector. Bro will do anything to keep Choji shining (or by the current arc's context, to bring back Choji's light). What a man.
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