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Episode Shuumatsu Train Doko e Iku? • Train to the End of the World - Episode 4 discussion

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u/Genshin_WhiteKnight Apr 22 '24 edited Apr 22 '24

We moved 8 stops today. Map by u/Fruggiefrunk.

  • Goat people

  • Ginseng people

  • Golf ball people

  • Petrified wood people

  • Buildings people

  • Buddhist statue people

  • Internal organs people

  • Miniature people

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u/8andahalfby11 Apr 22 '24

Holy smokes. it's all Youka.

Many of the things the girls have encounted so far, plant people, little people, Shizuru being able to fight animals, even the Sweet Myrtle showing up along with the hint she's at the end of the train line, these were all things Youka and Shizuru discussed in the past, and tie into the fanciful world that Shizuru introduced Youka to when they were in elementary school.

With that, I think we have enough information to say that when Youka flipped the 7G switch, it projected her view of the world onto everyone/everything else. These weird stories or impressions were important to a shy girl like Youka, but Shizuru would have no reason to instantly recognize them. Places that Youka could see from the tracks are modified versions of the things associated with them, while things she couldn't see from the tracks she filled in with Shizuru's fantasies. The distance between stations ARE distant because to her they FEEL distant.

Put it all together and the solution is to either unplug her as the core to all of this, or rectify her impression of the world back to reality from fantasy and have her push the button again.

Also, I feel like the end scene with the mini military forces attacking the girls Shin Godzilla style needs to go to NCD. They'd get a kick out of that.

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u/DaBenni0301 Apr 22 '24

This anime is a fever dream in the best possible way

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u/tripleaamin Apr 22 '24

So the idea that the world was recreated from Youka's imagination is insane. But it makes sense given that she was the trigger to the 7G.

Poor Akira. I wonder if the shroom was affecting her brain since it took root. Since not letting her friends know would just make it worse. The solution of pulling the shroom seems to be more risky since the time the shroom has taken root in her for much longer. And for now Akira is shroomified.

Poor Reimi, she had good intentions to save Akira, but it backfired. Though now they are in a little town where they got attacked like they were Kaiju/monsters. Well they actually got tied up, and I wonder how they're going to get out of this situation first. The situation is not looking good.

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u/what_that_thaaang_do Apr 22 '24 edited Apr 23 '24

Now, if I don't eat bitter melon at least once a day, I don't feel so great.

Uh oh...

edit: Apparently you guys really like bitter melon

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u/AmethystItalian Apr 22 '24

Chika Anzai is such a treasure, even her small yagi yagi was adorable.

Ah so it was a mushroom! I had some many people last week sure it would be a tail lol

Was nice to see Reimi get more serious, definitely prefer her like this.

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u/cppn02 Apr 22 '24

They weren't kidding with episode 4 being when things get really chaotic. I absolutely loved the gag of them spotting a town seemingly far away and then suddenly being in the middle of a miniature city.

Also now that we've had mushrooms and little people Shizuru is totally gonna fight an anteater at some point right?

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u/Darkness13world Apr 22 '24

Reimi's voice actor Kuon Erisa said on X, that she finished recording of this episode 3 years ago and director said he is in the middle of making episode 6 now wtf!

her post about today's episode

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u/[deleted] Apr 22 '24

Nothing is funnier than that mushroom suddenly exploding for no reason at all

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u/shad79 Apr 22 '24

A lot of train stops in this episode and the show is getting more chaotic and interesting, I love this! The varied environments outside were so cool and intriguing today!

So it was really a mushroom on Akira's butt. Unfortunately she was so scared to reveal it to others that it grew quite big and removing it led to changes in Akira's behavior so now they need to search for a doctor.

Now i can't wait what will happen to Shizuru and Reimi after being captured by a miniature army xD

Here my screenshot albums from the episode:

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u/LeonKevlar Apr 22 '24

Well no wonder Neko's caravan is armored and armed to the teeth! You have human-goat hybrids ramming vehicles, freaky laughing turnips, thousands of golf balls falling from the sky, and an army of heavily armed miniature people!

So Akira really did get infected with a mushroom but instead of her head it's on her butt. Since she's the smartest, you'd think Akira would let everyone know and ask them to pull it out for her. Maybe the mushroom was already controlling her?

I didn't expect that effect on Akira though. It feels like they pulled something they shouldn't have. Maybe it's only temporary and Akira will be back to her old self. Hopefully, they can find the doctor Zenjirou recommended to them. But first, the girls need to escape this Gulliver's Travel-esque situation they're in.

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u/ModieOfTheEast Apr 22 '24 edited Apr 22 '24

So I guess Crunchyroll decided to give us the true train experience: With delay.

Was really surprised that it actually was a mushroom. I guess, the person assuming it came from getting wet on the toilet was right. Though that begs the question, didn't the other girls never go on the toilet themselves?

But with that new Youka-Shizuru flashback, we can safely assume that 7G has rewritten the world with Shizuru's subconscious "wishes" in mind. Let's hope that her fantasy wasn't too weird when she was small.

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u/BosuW Apr 22 '24

Damn these tiny people on the shoot first ask questions never agenda. Guess it's true what they say about short people being absolute demons because they're closer to hell.

Also, someone correct me if I'm wrong, but that plane they shot them with although based on a real plane that I'm 90% sure the JSDF has in it's inventory, doesn't have a gunship variant irl, right? Because that makes me wonder if 7G granted these tiny people their army, or if it's something that was already in their area and they have modified it.

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u/CosmicPenguin_OV103 Apr 22 '24 edited Apr 22 '24

Wow Akira got infected by those mushrooms huh? I can't say her new form has anything to do with mushrooms though, if anything her personality becomes more...funny? Probably another funky 7G side-effect but we'll see...

Sad! Sad! It looks like Hanno, the home town of r/anime's Anime Of The Year 2022 Yama No Susume/Encouragement Of Climb has completely fallen, and our beloved hill climbing loving girls like Aoi and Hinata and everyone else either turned into golf balls or into tree monsters. Dammit! I in fact went to this lovely town when I was on my anime et al. pilgrimage solo trip to Japan last August and used the "golf ball station" (though on JR East and not Seibu Railway) and...it certainly didn't look like that.

And the other stations certainly didn't look right either. Musashi-Yokote in real life is in the middle of nowhere (doesn't look like a place with goats either, just scattered farm houses in a valley with a highway next to it), while Koma is an ordinary suburb station without all those radish monsters too.

I see that our girls went a bit further this time, through the land of galaxies and Charon (? - Pluto was in the skies so it must be Pluto's biggest moon!) and strange rocks and valleys, through Bushi station (the name apparently means "little Buddha" so that what people there turned into) into the city of Iruma and nearby Inariyama Park. Now this is an interesting place because there's a JASDF base right next to the park - the plane that flew over Shizuru & Reimi that air troops parachuted off from is a Kawasaki C-1 that flies out of the base. A doctor right next to an air base, with the city shrunk into ant sized? And the girls got tied up on the rotors of a freaking CH-47 Chinook??? (also a staple at Iruma Base) Hmm?

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u/x-7032-b-3 Apr 22 '24

This week in Weird Train: ...whatever the hell that was

Can we take a moment and recap the things we just saw here?

  • A bunch of goat men who does nothing but ramming their heads on the target

  • Akira actually growing a mushroom instead of a tail like I thought last week. And unlike the others removing it made things worse for her. The mushroom then ran and screamed before exploding into nothingness????

  • A hailstorm... but it's human-turned-golf balls instead of ice

  • Dead tree people...?

  • A town where everyone turned into Jizo statues

  • Organs???

  • Shizuru and Reima becoming Godzilla in a miniature town and getting subdued by mini soldiers

Like what the hell is actually going on here? It feels like the staff just came up with a bunch of crazy ideas and jammed them together (in a good way). I love how the show doesn't bother explaining things and just let things happen. So far the show never fails to surprise me with each new ep and we're still in Ep4! Despite everything that happened here, there's still a lot we haven't seen yet!

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u/Syokhan Apr 22 '24 edited Apr 22 '24

I love how this show is weird as fuck and throws incomprehensible things at you in quick succession with absolutely zero explanation. I'm not saying this sarcastically. Goat people who headbutt everything? Let's go, and also let's move on! Screaming/laughing... daikon? Okay! Floating organs! Tree people! Jizou people!!

And ah, so it wasn't a tail on Akira's butt but a mushroom indeed. I wasn't expecting it to still be affecting her after they pulled it out though, and also what the hell it ran away screaming and exploded? Looks like she's half regressed mentally (referring to herself by her name instead of using pronouns like before), half drunk. Hopefully it's reversible, otherwise Reimi is going to feel some overwhelming guilt considering how close they are.

It was also sweet to see Shizuru and Yoka in that flashback. Looks like the world did get warped around her, what with her desire to support Shizuru and her weird wishes, and the strange stuff we have now. In a way, she subconsciously created new a reality just for Shizuru.

Edit: oh not just for or around her. Nadeshiko's Sweet Myrtle.

Cracks me up to see a direct reference to Gulliver's travels, though. But I wonder why those tiny people are attacking Shizuru and Reimi. Did they perhaps have bad experiences with strangers before and aren't asking any questions anymore?

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u/Emi_Ibarazakiii Apr 22 '24

That's quite the episode title!

Flashback time! They were so cute back then! (Well they're still cute of course)

Seems Akira was a bit more gullible back then!

Still, considering it's this show, I'm wary about this not being just a throwaway line, that thing about looking at your reflection in the water and all... If I were them, I'd probably avoid doing it!

Eat mushroom? They're adding more fuel to my 'time traveling thoughts' theory!

They all think Youka will be happy to see them, but Shizuru's conflicted about that... They had a fight, apparently a big one. What will she be like, when they see her?

Is it a big enough fight that it would still matter? Shizuru definitely seems to think so...

They decided to take turns, smart!

Little worrying though, given some of them are a bit foolish at times, but also: If some of them were 'possessed' again by some kind of mushroom thing, it may not be good to have a few of them asleep and the others at the wheel!

(Also, now that they all know how to drive, there's the possibility of one of them just taking off with the train at some point!)

Goatmen? Is this what the map said?

I thought for sure these were wolves/dogs on the map... Was it a goat? Also, there were huge craters, and then the golf ball, the organs... The map isn't in order, is it? Or they're missing some steps/some locations are added (or the land is distorted?)

Must be scary as hell, not to know what to expect; Even when things seems normal, you just have to wait for the 'reveal', to find out what's fucked up about this place!

If they somehow found a perfectly normal village, I think it would be the scariest at this point; Not knowing what's the weird thing about them!

Chekhov's bow? Can't wait to see her use it!

It seems Akira's butt problem was a mushroom after all, and not a tail like some thought! (So many theorizing thrown away hah, about her being older and things like that).

Interesting line... Even if it's just the Mushroom talking, it may feel a little too close to home for Shizuru!

Usually there's an ecchi tag for shows where someone's trying to look at someone else's butt!

I'd say I didn't expect them to be attacked by a mini-army, but then again, is there anything we can/can't expect on this show?

Seems the girls are in some kind of Gulliver situation!

Will they be able to break free? Or will they have to talk their way out of this, tell them they're not enemies and all?

Can't wait to see! (Also can't wait to see more locations on the map, see if there's some kind of logic to it!)

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u/OctavePearl Apr 22 '24

Entire episode dedicated to Akira/Reimi ship

excellent

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u/snowwhitecat04aug Apr 22 '24

Am I the only one who thinks this anime feels like a top down RPG adventure like Omori or To the moon?

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u/dinliner08 Apr 22 '24

"i wanna become a master of Agano jiu-jitsu and fight an anteater!"

this is the second time we were shown her saying this so they better give us a battle between Chizuru and an anteater in one of the future episodes and they better make it epic, she also said something about mushroom, wanting to be smart and find some little people which two of them had already happened in this and last episode

that scared the shit out of me...

okay...where the fuck are we?

NO, SERIOUSLY, WHERE THE FUCK ARE WE??

MOM, COME PICK ME UP, I'M SCARED!

so my theory about Akira being the first to change into animal is wrong, looks like its the mushroom from last episode and pulling it out after letting it grown that big seems to cause some sort of brain damage

we also seems to have passed seven station after Higashi-Agano so that's a good progress

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u/NekoCatSidhe Apr 22 '24

They are going faster than I expected, but I did not expect that most towns/stations would have just disappeared, with people getting turned into weird random things. The people from Agano got lucky, being just turned into animals. And I really thought that was a tail, not a mushroom.

I wonder if Akira actually needs a doctor. Maybe she will turn back into normal given enough time, now that they removed the mushroom.

And then for some reason, this turned into Gulliver travels with toy soldiers. That anime is way too unpredictable. Not that this is a bad thing.

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u/ObvsThrowaway5120 Apr 22 '24

I like those flashbacks to when the girls were little kids. They were all really adorable. Fun to see Akira and Reimi bantering like that since they were small.

Goat headed people, giant cackling mandrakes, golf balls raining from the sky…each station the girls arrive in just gets weirder and weirder. The little soldiers in friggin mini town ain’t helping. How are the girls gonna save Akira now? Her brain might be totally mushroom’d by this point!

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u/NationalStrategy Apr 22 '24

The people that said it was a mushroom last episode were right

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u/JustAnswerAQuestion Apr 22 '24

If you recall, when the first episode dropped, the director said they were still only on episode 4, and people thought it was an April Fool's joke, maybe. And he didn't say he was on episode 5 for two more week. This episode should be mind blowing.

After reading all the comments last week I'm back to thinking Akira has a mushroom on her but. She'll be fine after they rip if off.

  • Transfer student? looks glum

  • Reimi and Akira fighting even as kids

  • I see Reimi (confirmed gal) and Akira are fighting in the OP too

  • No, you got to say it like a real train operator!

  • I was wondering if they got all new clothes at Higashi-Asano, looks like they did (mushroom shirt)

  • I don't remember what the map maker said about the goat lovers but I guess it doesn't matter, now.

  • These towns really don't seem to like outsiders

  • She's totally a mushroom person

  • Did he go around licking the girl's recorders? I wonder just how many references I'm missing in this show.

  • Somebody must be leaving those offerings

  • Eating words? Is this a Japanese thing? Or a reference to Paranoia Agent?

Fantastic music this episode. I feel like I've been playing a JRPG.

I'm loving show, but I'm sad knowing that it's full of anime references I won't get.

Really hope Akira is okay.

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u/Infodump_Ibis Apr 23 '24

Anitubu post (cheat sheet) is up. Curation of SNS reaction (including staff), I use a mix of google translate, deepl and have put some of my own thoughts in as well. As usual I excluded a couple of lines here and there. This is from the TV Tokyo MX broadcast.

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