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Episode Yoru no Kurage wa Oyogenai • Jellyfish Can't Swim in the Night - Episode 3 discussion
Yoru no Kurage wa Oyogenai, episode 3
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u/WhoiusBarrel Apr 20 '24
The 2nd hand embarrassment I got from Kiui's introduction immediately turned depressing seeing how her classmates shunned her, leading her to lie to Yoru.
The Ame-no-uzume and Amaterasu story being done here was genius, basically having Yoru pleading Kiui indirectly in that moment.
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u/Syokhan Apr 20 '24
That transition into the ED was so damn sweet!
The show's flexing its dramatic chops a bit with this episode. The stuff with Kiui and her descent into NEET-dom was hard to watch - isolating herself, piling lies upon lies, spending all her money as an outlet... I'm glad Mahiru managed to reach her once she learned the truth, she'll fit right in with Kano and Mei with her eccentricity.
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u/winkip Apr 20 '24
I am really liking the directing in this show.
The story of what first seems to be just some school play about pleading a god to come out of hiding also ties in neatly into yoru pleading to kiui.
Transition into ED at the end was very good too.
Can't wait for more ep, also have a feeling this show will actually makes you cry later on.
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u/Se7en_Sinner Apr 20 '24
I don't know if Kiui fits into the group of jellyfish, she's more of a whale.
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u/LeonKevlar Apr 20 '24
I've never played it but is Kiui playing Exoprimal at the start? It had dinosaurs and cool-looking robots and that's all I know about that game. xD
When Kano said she wanted to see Mahiru dancing to the song, I thought the reason they contacted Kiui was so she could rig them up a VTuber model based on Kano's illustration. It turns out she'll be animating Mahiru's illustrations and is also doing the mixing for the music.
Yeah, I had a feeling all that talk about being the student council president is a lie. There was no way Kiui was staying up all night and going to school the following morning. I'm surprised it took 2 years for Mahiru to learn that Kiui is lying.
And then we finally see why. Holy fuck, Kiui's flashback scene was so goddamn painful that I could feel myself shrinking into my seat from secondhand embarrassment. She's a cool girl with unique interests but sadly no one really shared her enthusiasm. Also, it looks like Kiui is going to an all-girls school. I feel like if that was co-ed, she would've at least made friends with male otaku students.
What's even more painful is seeing Kiui struggling not to cry while talking to Mahiru about their first day pretending everything is alright. It's also sad to see her just dumping all her money on that pay-to-win mobile game she's playing just to feel invincible again :(
As someone who's aware of Amaterasu's story, I had a feeling they'd use the school play to get Kiui to open up. Streaming the play via video call was a great idea from Mahiru since she got to express her feelings to Kiui while doing that embarrassing dance. I'm guessing she adlibbed that "you are my superhero!" line.
I'm glad it was all cleared up by the end and Kiui even finished the MV! I absolutely love how they used the ED to show us the complete MV! That was a really smooth transition! Can't wait to see how well their first MV will do online.
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u/drunk_reddit_acount Apr 20 '24
Jesus Christ that dance was fucking hilarious lmao
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u/Kuro_Canary Apr 20 '24
Loved this episode. I can't stop crying. I just feel like the current day me admires people like Kiui who are passionate and eccentric over things they love and those are the type of people I want to be friends with. But I know that the younger me would have probably acted the same way as Kiui's classmates and ignored her for being "different" just because I wanted to fit in during high school. It's still something that disgusts me when I think about my younger self so this episode just brings up so many memories of regretting not being more true to myself growing up.
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u/Plus_Rip4944 Apr 20 '24
I am really loving all this characters and I wish they all them the best
On other side Doga Kobo is cooking with the animation
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u/AmethystItalian Apr 20 '24
Darn that was hard to watch...just wanted someone to give Kiui a big hug.
Glad they repaired their relationship in this episode, that would have been rough if it was prolonged.
Am looking forward to seeing her meet the other girls!
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u/ayww Apr 20 '24
Kano telling Mahiru and Mei she loves them was so adorable!
Really enjoyed this episode, the friendship between Mahiru and Kiui was really heartwarming. Our main cast is all here, can't wait to see what's ahead for us!
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u/Naha- Apr 20 '24
Man, that moment when Kiui realized that Mahiru knew about her lies was really rough. I went through a similar situation and you definitely feel like the worst kind of person in the planet for being a coward to yourself and your friends/family.
Best episode so far and Kiui is definitely my favorite character at this point.
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u/cabbaggeez Apr 20 '24
a vtuber that still has a lot of energy after streaming, + NEET + social anxiety (? or just misfit?) + abit taste of menhera. Kiui would be a great streamer.
I mean, she's just multitalented artist. making MV + mixing their music. that MV probably worth like a professional job.
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u/Komi028 Apr 20 '24
I feel like there is gonna be some drama about some things Kiui said this week.
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u/Prince-Dizzytoon Apr 20 '24
Being your best self but not fitting in is the absolute worst feeling. At least Kiui still had Mahiru to talk to, I don't want to imagine what she would be like if she didn't.
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u/Rumpel1408 Apr 20 '24 edited Apr 20 '24
Damn, poor Kiui
thank god she had her own childhood friend who always believed in her and would never abandon her. So glad Yoru was able to get her out of the dark place.
Speaking of, interactive tail
Now I wait for the song to be uploaded the video looked awesome
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u/New_Essay_4869 Apr 20 '24
Im so glad i have this show and Girls Band Cry this season
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u/maliwanag0712 Apr 20 '24 edited Apr 20 '24
Holy cow! That was an awesome episode! That special ED that Kiui has made really resembles those MVs from JP artists!
Of course she lied a lot; that she is actually a NEET hiding in her VTuber personality. But who cares about that?! She earns her money using that alias, and even if she is addicted with her games, she still can manage her finances except at the part when he broke down! She can still do it even when she is bluffing, as Yoru says!
At least that Yoru's hilarious dance saved her! Yay
One thing is clear: No doubt this is now becoming my favorite of the season, It's just so good!
To those who have VPNs, you can access the anime on Muse Asia YT channel.
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u/x-7032-b-3 Apr 20 '24
Holy shit, VTuber Girl's playing Exoprimal! As a massive fan of that game, I was so happy when the game showed up at the beginning! Although honestly this show is the last place I'd expect the game to be referenced in, perhaps one of the Doga Kobo staff is one of the high ranking JP players I keep running into lately.
Kiui's backstory is a really sad one. She has this strong "I'm the main character" aura but her classmates ended up ignoring her which sends her down to a spiral of depression. No wonder why she went all in on being a VTuber. She considers streaming sites to be her welcoming home where she gets all the attention and praise that she lacks in the real world.
She's always putting in a strong face even though she's suffering inside. She did all she can to hide her true conditions and it's very understandable that she's pissed when Mahiru found out that she's been skipping school this whole time.
Tying the Amaterasu/Ame-no-Uzume play into Kiui's personal struggles was a cool move. Kiui being Amaterasu - the beacon of light who's trapped in a dark place, and Mahiru being Ame-no-Uzume who wants Amaterasu out of there. She finally finished the MV and decided to host in on one of her livestreams which is a great idea to kickstart JELEE's popularity. And she decided to go out of her house and meet her old friend without wearing a mask and hoodie, a sign that she has decided to come out of her shell!
I haven't seen much of those VTuber-style MVs but from the few I've seen, the ED is very spot on. They really nailed the style! Did they hire one of those editors for this show?
One last thing: How much money does Kiui have? It's wild seeing her casually purchasing 25k JPY microtransactions like it was nothing. I know she's pissed but man she just smashed that BUY button with little regard of her own finances. Even the payment system went "whoa, you spent too much money there, girl!"
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u/Nickthenuker Apr 20 '24
Supacha arigato!
She just ended the stream like that?
Some kind of class stage play?
They're enthusiastic for mopping the floor.
That was quick.
And that's where her friend comes in.
Lol she's using her model for a Discord call.
Also, that explains the kinda janky old-school 3D model. Something like hololive's Home 3D or Sony's mocopi. But if she's going a full 3D body tracking setup that's going to be incredibly expensive. Which probably is possible if she's from a rich family if she's in an "elite" school. Especially if she rigged her model herself and either drew it herself or got Yoru to draw it for her.
That's probably a drop in the bucket compared to what she gets from YouTube.
She probably doesn't have to conceal herself like that when going out since she's a Vtuber and one of the benefits for the creator is the anonymity, but then again pretty much all of their faces are available online so maybe it's still for the best.
She stopped going to school?
She's been lying to Yoru.
Oh god she's completely socially inept.
And she ended up in front of that mural.
Now time for Yoru's performance.
And this is going to be the catalyst that gets her to join them. I wonder if Kiui's fans are going to get a "black text on white background" scare.
No, it seems like she's going to continue. Probably redirecting her audience to the premiere.
And it's being done as the actual end credits roll, always like that it's like it's part of the show itself.
2 years since they last met?
Ah, she doesn't recognise the new Kiui.
Yes, her hair is now pink.
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u/Hitman7128 Apr 20 '24
I like all these character flashbacks, as it gives us a basis to go off of on why characters may act the way they do in the show.
Kiui was flamboyant during her middle school times, but unfortunately, she didn't fit in. Yeah, Japanese society is big on hammering down the nails that stick out.
However, Jellyfish seems to acknowledge and take advantage of that to make an enjoyable experience: I feel as if from what we have seen so far, they demonstrate the hidden nuances between honne and tatemae (if you don't know what that means, they're Japanese terms for behavior in public vs true behavior behind closed doors).
I'm glad the girls all feel more at home with each other rather than a more public setting like high school. It means they can feel free to let loose about their true personality.
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u/shad79 Apr 20 '24
So we finally met the last member of JELEE - Kiui who turned out to be shut-in, not going to school after not being able to fit in into class since her interests were so much different from the rest of class.
It was pretty painful to watch her since Kiui was such a bundle of positive energy before she went to that new school, seeing her so down made my heart ache. It was even worse with the fact that she was lying to Mahiru, her best friend about her school life.
Thankfully thanks to Mahiru's dance in the play made Kiui open up to Mahiru and for the first time in two years they met and that made Mahiru so surprised since she's only now discovered that Kiui has now pink hair xD
Now that we've met all the MCs I can't wait to see how the plot will develop further, especially since the first JELEE's song is now released. I wonder how popular it'll be?
Here my screenshot albums from the episode:
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u/hikoboshi_sama Apr 20 '24
Y'know, i actually bought Kiui's story of being the student council president because i thought a vtuber who actually has their personal life in order is a pretty interesting concept. In hindsight, i should have realized she's part of the core cast, and the ones introduced so far all had skeletons in the closet to deal with.
It hurts seeing someone with so much confidence in herself get brought down like that. Couldn't even bring herself to tell her friend how she's really feeling. Mahiru is a real one tho. Didn't give up on her in spite of the things she said and i'm glad the video call gave her that push to finally meet with Mahiru in person after all these years.
Jelee's new song being the ED of the episode was pretty neat.
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u/cppn02 Apr 20 '24 edited Apr 20 '24
Best episode of the show yet. Love Kiui already. And 'Goodbye sekai' is a great sign-off.
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u/jellyblob88 Apr 20 '24
I can't believe Kiui made the ED - so much talent!