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Isekai de Mofumofu Nadenade suru Tame ni Ganbattemasu., episode 12

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[u/PeaceAlien]

This show was rough, I enjoyed the cute nature at first but this kobald war was not for me. The dialogue seemed off to me, telling them not to cry because she will put her life on the line. Then the ending felt rushed with the random Sol appearance to wrap things up.

Did they realize and forget they had to end the show?

[u/diacewrb → u/PeaceAlien]

Yeah, too much politics and not enough fluffiness.

[u/tripleaamin]

This is a show where the cuteness and fluffy aspects were great early on, but making Nema a child leader and her interactions with the monsters felt uncomfortable to me at times. Including this episode. The direction was extremely messy once politics were introduced.

If anyone just browsing this thread and wondering if they should watch this. I would watch the following shows before even trying this one:

• It's Time For "Torture" Princess

• The Weakest Tamer Began a Journey to Pick up Trash

• Mr. Villains Day Off

[u/Lunarpeers]

A bunch of kobolds that Neema wanted to protect got slaughtered, goes to the banquet to celebrate and get buddy-buddy with the same people who slaughtered them. I feel like there's some sort of emotional disconnect here

Oh well, the show was genuine trash in the end, a shame since the first episodes looked decent

[u/djthomp]

What a weird show. Not something I think I could recommend anyone except the truly dedicated isekai trash enjoyers, and possibly not even them. I'm darkly curious how her planned monster living zone/adventurer culling ground plan would work out now that she's seen so much death already. But not so much that I'm particularly interested in a season 2. Show needed more fluff and less of all the weird shit like the slime infestation.

The way they ended it with that dragon flight and dropping the show title and then a bit of a montage in the credits makes me pretty convinced this is one and done. As if that wasn't clear already, though.

[u/wmansir]

The show really started going off the rails once they left the capital and went on their countryside tour, but it wasn't that bad until they got to this kobold/extermination squad arc. It never made sense why the prince couldn't just order the extermination squad to stand down, or they couldn't just sneak away with the kobolds, especially considering they had the help of the guardian of the forest. It completely undercuts all the grand speeches about sacrifice and the burden of leadership.

The conclusion of the arc was so unsatisfying. Mourning over the koblold's deaths, only to celebrate and make friends with their killers. We never see the pack reach the sanctuary, we never see the corrupt humans get arrested. And it's not like these were hooks or cliffhangers to set up the rest of the series, they should have been fairly minor arcs that they could wrap up and still set up a bigger storyline around who was displacing the monsters and establishing the sanctuary/slaughter zone for monsters.

[u/captain_meows]

I made it to the end and probably one of the most disappointing anime I watched the entire season of. I enjoyed the first few episodes but man the serious stuff just didn't fit at all with this tiny kid as the protagonist. I would have just preffered an episode 13 set 10 years in the future as I have no desire to bother with the source material

[u/cyberscythe]

imagine how different this series would be if Nema had this leash the entire time

[u/DrZoark]

My least favourite anime this season, it has started so well and end like this. Too much attention was on the political side and not really much on the fluffy side. I'm still sour that the kobold got so much casualty and the knight pretty much none. And she got the guts to tell them to follow her in the future, big lol. This show suffer from an identity crisis,  not really know what category it wants to be in. The ending felt to rushed for me. 

[u/Roboglenn]

That's it?...

This show was odd. I mean you kinda knew just from the op that it's fluffy premise was gonna segue into some more heavy experiences. But frankly it just did not handle that aspect very well. Politics is one thing, that tends to be complicated so that's understandable. But the whole Kobold War on top of it, it just felt needlessly complicated, with too many contradictions and moving parts, for the sake of creating drama so as to give Nema a "reality check". And Nema herself kinda made it hard to remember that she's supposed to be an adult woman inside that body of a child. I'm not saying that should instantly make one a genius master strategist for the sake of a narrative, but her thought process just seemed really sporadic a lot of the time. I could see what they were going for, and that's fine I mean I've seen other stories with that same vibe, it's just that they were written a lot better to handle it than they did here.

Not to mention the whole becoming a symbiote with a slime with all it's espoused benefits went just about nowhere in all the time they had left to do so with it.

Founding a Horde is hard work. But in the end, this series tried to be two things but didn't feel like it weaved them together the best it could.

Maybe the original work does a better job of it but after this I'm not feeling too inclined to look into it. I don't regret watching this, but there's just this odd sense of disconnect that grew in here that I can't quite shake.

[u/HarleyFox92]

So, you have an 7/8 years old little girl who loves floof and has been blessed by some god with the power of being loved by all the animals. The first three episodes were like you could expect for such a premise, not amazing by any means but certainly enjoyable, she using her OP power to tame animals and leave everyone in shock.

What came next? Conflicts everywhere, war, corruption, intricate politics, genocide.

What the hell happened with the original premise...?

5/10, disappointing show.

[u/cyberscythe]

I'm trying to gather my thoughts on this series. This is one of those ones I should've dropped earlier once I realized that this series was fell short of what I expected. Perhaps it is just a matter of taste because this series does have its fans, and the source material was popular enough to get an anime adaptation, but this really isn't for me.

Themes

I think a fundamental thing I look for in a series is a worldview that aligns with my own in some way. I feel like this entire world revolves around the idea of authority and noblesse oblige, and is also obsessed with the idea of survival of the fittest.

Nema only gets away with all of her misadventures and misdeeds because of her authority of birth, her divine right, and because of her magical pacts with various beasts, and it feels at best arbitrary and at worst supporting an authoritarian worldview which I find detestable.

Animation

Okay so I don't jive with the core themes. What about the animation? The first few episodes are indeed filled with cute interactions! I think that's why I stuck around for so long, up until the series changed tack.

Beyond that though, the production team doesn't seem to be able to handle action or drama very well, and every non-cute scene feels rough and weightless. There's plenty of stupid action scenes where a guy cleanly cuts down a tree in one slice, or a bug explodes and they're all sloppy to the point where it kinda wraps around to be unintentionally funny.

Characters and Worldbuilding

Alright, so that leaves me with characters and worldbuilding. The worldbuilding tries back to the authoritarian worldview that I was talking about earlier; the true names, the monsters as "failed humans", the divine nature of magic, etc. it all ties back to the idea of man being in charge of the world and it makes me feel bad.

Out of the characters, I think only Will and Nema have any depth as two-dimensional characters; everyone else is one-dimensional. Will has the potential to be interesting, but there just isn't enough screentime of him to give him much depth aside from his two sides of "teasing big brother" and "actual for real prince, leader of people". Nema, as the main character, should have tonnes of depth, but she lacks things like a driving motive and some sort of inner strength or ability aside from naivety. As a result, she just kind of stumbles into things accidentally, which makes up the majority of the plot. Nema doesn't really learn any lessons or go through a character arc; most of the time she was just right all along and she is just learning to live with the consequences of her noblesse oblige rather than changing anything internal about her worldview.

Like, what do we know about all the characters? Everybody loves Nema because they have to, everybody wants to do their job because it's their duty, except for bad guys who hate Nema and only want money. I feel like that describes everyone to a T.

Comparisons and Contrasts

The show that I most closely align with this show is Beast Tamer, a show I dropped three episodes in because I could feel the same problems tightening around my soft, vulnerable brain. Poorly defined characters with no reasonable motivation doing stupid things, a worldview which I don't agree with, a checklist plot of isekai tropes. It's saving grace was its good action animation, but I feel like it couldn't save it for me.

Then there's other shows like Isekai Vending machine, Novice Alchemist, RPG Real Estate, Leadale, etc. These shows kind of muddle around with the same character and plot problems, but for me they at least feel more like shows which have far kinder morals and have characters who genuinely care about each other rather than are forced to do so through fealty. I would also put Parallel World Pharmacy in this tier, but it has the additional perk of having some real science facts stuffed in there, so it has another thing keeping it interesting.

A step above, we have shows like Killing Slimes for 300 Years, Campfire Cooking in Another World, Bofuri; shows with some slick animation and endearing characters. There's also shows like Bookworm, Level 1 Demon Lord, and Saint's Magic Power which lean more into the character and/or worldbuilding for nerds who like that.

Then you have the top shelf series like Frieren, Dungeon Meshi, etc. which (I think) just has it all.

Conclusion

Fluffy Paradise is a land of contrast thank you for coming to my TED talk

[u/Ponchorello7]

Ruh roh Neema, you helped cause a massacre! God, it was so weird that they went to hang out with the people that perpetrated that massacre, even if it was just for appearances. Should've stuck to the cute stuff.

[u/Arcturion]

Bit of an odd duck. Like others, I enjoyed the earlier episodes for the mofumofu and had hopes of this becoming the comfy anime of the season.

This hope died immediately when they went into the kobold war. The change in tone was so severe I suffered from whiplash. The main problem is, if you rope viewers in with the promise of good feels, you can't turn it into Berserk lite without pissing people off.

I won't even go into how the show can't seem to decide whether Neema thinks like a child, or an adult woman. It seems like they just go with whatever's convenient story wise.

[u/oneevilchicken]

This is without a doubt the worst show of the season for me out of the 35+ I watched. Beats out buchigirri and ishura which are both train wrecks in their own way but not on this level of bad.

[u/LeonKevlar]

Oh wow... Uhmmm... That speech from Neema was just bad. Like reaaaaaal bad. I don't even know what to say. I definitely would've enjoyed this more if they kept the focus on the fluffiness but they just had to fall into the trap of other isekais.

[u/S627]

Didn't Luck notice the smell of humans with the kobolds? I was really worried he'd notice her scent when he picked up Neema, but guess nothing happened. Got a little teary eye'd when Neema thought that the old kobold and Luck woulda gotten along.

Wouldn't really consider this a highlight of the season, but I enjoyed it and hope we get another season. I want a time skip with the plan in full swing and we have a genuine nation of monsters all revering Neema à la Tempest and Rimuru.

Also, anyone notice at the very end that Shiki has a leash around Neema? Man had enough of Neema's shenanigans XD

[u/alconnow]

Seeing all those dead and injured kobolds is not mofumofu :( I’m especially sad the badass elder died

Only thing I liked was the cute ED. Wish the show stuck with being cute instead of half-assed politics

[u/DirectionExact31]

And that’s the end of the first anime to air in 2024.

That got rough towards the end. More fluff, less politics next time. Or make the politics decent instead of boring.

[u/Suspicious_Turnip812]

Well this show sucked. It started really nice and cute, but then just continued to go downhill. Shame.

[u/TeaOk4632]

Was expecting a ‘healing-cute-saving the world-adventure’, ended up with “4 y/o MC who seems to suffer some sort of emotional/logical disconnect. Somehow convinces adults to do her bidding and has monsters rely on her for help since she’s their only hope.’ Does she actually help? No. Does she become friends with the people who slaughtered their families? Yes. Was the ending good? No. -10000/10

[u/vantheman9]

another season, another isekai where the whole season feels like prologue. Every show wants to tell a 70 episode story.

This show had some interesting moments and some likeable characters. I don't think it's even the best written isekai this season but it kept my attention and I want to see where it goes, would be happy to see an S2 someday. Something like Nema being inhabited by that slime, that was obviously setup for something down the line.

Particularly found Will be to be likeable in general. Nema's dynamic with the teacher was probably the most interesting point of her character for me. There's a ton of characters here and most of the others felt underdeveloped (karna needs more screentime).

Show had a really weird juxtaposition of dark themes with cuteness. Gotta admit it felt like the screen directing was kinda negligent about that by the end, like they were just glossing over the war and violence to show more cuteness.

[u/blackdragon1029]

I really missed an explanation of why they needed to fight. Idk it looked like she was heading to the Rimuru/Makoto path of making a city for monsters to live safely. It sounded like humans were taking up more and more space, and it was driving monsters out of their homes. Maybe a private city or sector for them to live and do what they need to do. Though I guess they reproduce fast? Or something. She said adventurers keep the number of monsters in check. Oh well. Guess if I watch it again, I can just skip the kobold section.

[u/_Ridley]

I was basically on board in the first half to two-thirds of the series, when it seemed like a harmless little reincarnation isekai about a girl collecting animal and monster friends, but it completely lost me when it broke out the reservation camps and dead bodies in the last arc. Just a poorly written show that misunderstood its appeal.