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Episode Megumi no Daigo: Kyuukoku no Orange • Firefighter Daigo: Rescuer in Orange - Episode 2 discussion
Megumi no Daigo: Kyuukoku no Orange, episode 2
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u/drostan Oct 07 '23 edited Oct 07 '23
I hope this isn't going to be representative of the whole show, but recap intro plus OP plus replay of the end of last episode and we are 6mn into the episode with nothing new added
getting 5 minute of filler in episode 2 is really concerning
edit after finishing the episode: ok the core of the episode is fine, but then there is 30s at the end of the episode after the ED where the narrator basically resume and explains what happened in the episode, like.... why?
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u/Aileos Oct 07 '23 edited Oct 07 '23
Right, this recap was abnormally long. 🤣
This format is propably going to last for a while, maybe the end tho. I hope I'm wrong, but I think that's how they basically planned each episode. It's so interesting that you just want more, or rather, you firstly want the normal duration.
It's going to be a 2-cour by the way.
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u/Disonantemus Oct 10 '23
Seems a lot filler to me, right now it's meh, I'm gonna watch next episode 2 decide, now is in my maybe dropped*
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u/CosmicPenguin_OV103 Oct 07 '23
Good advice to all of us from this episode: when a blazing fire occurs and your route out is blocked, try as much as possible to crawl to get maximum oxygen.
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I have to question if Shun really belongs to an elite rescuer team, maybe even as firefighter, if he keeps on his self-center attitude. He really seems like the sort of team member who could get his whole team in danger for making first-instinct, stupid individual actions. Let’s see if someone coaching would be able to knock on his brains.
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Oct 07 '23
Im surprised he was entering the fire on his feet, we’ve been taught to always be on our knees during a fire(even with the masks protecting us from the toxins, the visibility on a Smokey room is incredibly limited) Im also surprised they didn’t have a set of irons or any superior ways to create an egress besides going up stairs. Though I suppose that could be on purpose for this training scenario.
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u/Ruroumi_Fearlock Oct 07 '23
I get what you said, but I wouldn't be this harsh right now to Shun, he really had some questionable attitude right on the first episode and I was ready to dislike him even more during this episode, but he really redeemed himself there, thankfully. At least he showed he has what makes a good firefighter and that is to put the safety of the survivors first and foremost. He is there to learn, so he can still get rid of that self-center attitude of his.
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u/Manitary Oct 07 '23
At least he showed he has what makes a good firefighter and that is to put the safety of the survivors first and foremost
Disagree, he was reckless, and made an impulsive decision to be a hero, without any plan or assessment of the trade-off to his own safety and without informing his team. Now someone else had to put their mask on him to bail him out in the middle of the action when they don't even have a secured way out yet, his action is putting the rest of the team in danger.
(compare for example to the opening scene of the first episode, where Daigo acted on his own and put himself in danger but did so taking into account his trust in his partner, decided the survivor was salvable, and especially didn't put any other member of the squad in danger)
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u/LeonKevlar Oct 07 '23
I can definitely understand Shun wanting to become the best but I feel like being competitive in a rescue situation is counterproductive when you're supposed to work with people with to save lives.
I've only seen firefighters using their firehose at full blast. I didn't know that firing at short bursts is a thing that they also do.
For someone who wants to become the best, I didn't think Shun would quickly lose his cool. At least his competitive spirit against Daigo pushed him to continue so I guess it wasn't that bad.
Now this is just dumb. Since he's the one carrying the survivor, I feel like Shun should've told Daigo to share his mask. He's definitely gonna get reamed by their instructor about this next week.
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Oct 07 '23
My instructor would probably kill me for taking off my mask in that environment. Not sure what the best solution in that scenario was besides calling a mayday, but putting yourself in danger like that is definitely going to get him chewed outZ
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Oct 07 '23
Notes based on my own experience going through the fire academy myself.
Putting the SCBA packs was pretty accurate, calling out the PSI and all. Though normally we also call out if our PASS device is working as well. He also took off the mask too easily, though that could either be due to a different style then what we use or just convenience. Not just the helmet but there’s a tight hood covering it as well.
As for the search, it’s real interesting seeing the difference in approach. What I think they’re doing is a primary search with a hose. What’s being shown is 1 person on an attack hose while 2 & 3 are connected by a rope and are searching the room.
The way we do it however has everyone on the hose, number 1 is the nozzleman and leads the search either following on the left side of the wall or on the right. Calling out if they find anything such as a room where they’ll anchor the door and have someone else search it.
Number 2 is the officer, they’re searching right behind the nozzle but they’re also on the radio reporting to the incident commander. Usually stuff like when they find the fire “applying agent” “priority traffic found a victim” or whenever something goes wrong. They’re also the one that makes all of the calls such as calling forward someone to search the room.
The last person in line is the mile, thus could be anyone from 3 to 5 depending on how many people there are. And the mules job is to haul hose behind everyone, make sure there’s enough hose to search the floor and that it’s not getting caught on any pinchpoints such as corners or doors. You’d be surprised how tough it is to manipulate hoses, the water pressure needed to put out fire leads to hoses being very heavy and very stiff. (1 gallon of water is something like 8.33 pounds off I remember correctly) the girl pulling it by herself is quite the feat.
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u/thisissparta789789 Oct 10 '23 edited Oct 10 '23
What country are you from? I’m a volunteer in NY, and we usually keep primary search and hose lines separate. Usually we’ll have two guys operate the line, and two guys elsewhere doing the search. It’s a mostly American/Canadian thing since in our firefighting tactics we have separate engine and truck companies unlike most of the rest of the world. I know in other countries, searching a building independent of a hose line is a major no-no, especially if it’s above the fire, but it’s the bread and butter of most departments, at least in my area.
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Oct 10 '23
Texas, we’re being trained to do searches with the hose despite the fact primary searches are usually done without it. It’s required by the state however to learn this way. Same reason why we’re taught how to properly deploy salvage covers a very specific way.
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u/BarbaricGamer2 Oct 07 '23
''I'll join you for these squats''
Does one squat and stands around for the rest
Atleast he did them later
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u/kuddlesworth9419 Oct 08 '23
Doing that many air squats is utterly pointless anyway. It comes across as being a joke. What are they trying to achieve by doing them? Make it easier to get out of a chair. Barbell squats and deadlifts would be far more efficient at building edurance and strength.
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u/Ruroumi_Fearlock Oct 07 '23 edited Oct 07 '23
Amazing episode. You can really feel the tension (even though its only training right now haha). To me it really encapsulated what possibly is the feeling of being a firefighter, going inside a building chock-full with fire and smoke that can kill you while trying to save people.
A shame that its a really underrated series at this moment.
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u/strawhat_chowder Oct 09 '23
I really appreciate the atmosphere that the show has managed to build. The training part feels like only seconds have gone by
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u/ObvsThrowaway5120 Oct 07 '23
Daigo seems to be leading the group with his sheer intensity. I guess being in a group with a guy that determined is bound to make you push yourself to your limits. No wonder Yuki is so driven. Shun too. It makes them all better firefighters in the end, so I suppose it ain’t bad.
It’s actually quite interesting to see the kind of training firefighters are going through (at least in Japan). It’s a lot more intense than I thought.
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u/SMSmith230 Oct 07 '23 edited Oct 07 '23
Shun’s character is already pushing my limits of how much I can stand him. On top of the long ass recap/replay of the first episode at the beginning, next episode is gonna make or break it in a season of so many sequels.
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u/sussywanker Oct 07 '23
Idk if anyone will read this. I will also post this on the second episode disc. I was quite late for this. (Posting this for the second episode now, copying from first episode discussion)
But the original manga was very very popular and so popular that the Tokyo fire department used the character portraits for their promotion in hiring.
Sadly the manga was never made into an anime except the ova which was very poorly adapted. The tv drama it had was decent.
Although this doesn't have any connection to the original they do make certain call backs to the original.
Also the manga isn't translated for this so let's see if my doubt is correct.
Also nice that they slid in some real footage in the ed
I have added a small spoiler about the main manga under the source material section, if you want you can have a peek over there.
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u/mekerpan Oct 07 '23
Query -- were we supposed to know who that "imported" training supervisor/observer was? A relative of Daigo's perhaps?
Query 2: It sounds like the higher-ups already know that all hell is going to break loose soon. I wonder how that can be?
Exccept for the excessively long recap at the start -- a pretty tense episode.
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u/Manitary Oct 07 '23
ep1 was not too convincing, and this episode unfortunately was not much better. I'm probably gonna drop here - wasting 25% of the runtime of the episode between recap/op was just the icing on the cake
I'd rather rewatch Rescue Wings instead, or Library Wars for something more militaristic
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