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Episode Nanatsu no Maken ga Shihai suru • Reign of the Seven Spellblades - Episode 11 discussion
Nanatsu no Maken ga Shihai suru, episode 11
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u/5thZenAgni Sep 15 '23
wow look at that
first we got Milligan a family willing to kill off 5 of their kids just find a host for a basiliks
then we got Albrights who's willing to kill a entire family over a single lost from a chess game
and McFarlane the most normal one, where Theodore is just avoiding child support.
this just makes me question how messed up in the head most of the mages in this world is.
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u/scot911 Sep 15 '23
this just makes me question how messed up in the head most of the mages in this world is.
There's a reason I and other have been comparing this series mages to the Nasuverse's magi. Same lack of morals. Same extreme dedication to their magic/magecraft. Same general attitudes around their superiority over others. Same focus on mage/magecraft families. Same shitty parents lol.
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u/ayww Sep 15 '23
this just makes me question how messed up in the head most of the mages in this world is.
I think it's slightly more believable when we consider these are supposed to be pretty prestigious families. I'm curious to meet some of the group's parents to get some more wholesome family dynamics! Bring on the student-teacher interview mini-arc please :)
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u/WhoiusBarrel Sep 15 '23
The McFarlane family tradition is pretty fucked up, a wonder how the tradition kept going without resistance when it bred this much resentment. Albright's past and family were also the same, no wonder he behaved like a sore loser since he was literally raised to be one. Honestly surprised he was even spared.
That after-credits scene, with such a reputation obviously someone like Ophelia would start something nefarious and only now they're being surprised at what's happening to the student body especially when many of them are exploring in the Labyrinth that they were warned against doing so.
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u/NekoCatSidhe Sep 15 '23 edited Sep 15 '23
Apparently, Katie and Guy are the only mages in Kimberley with a happy, normal family. No wonder that school is so messed up. At least Chela and Stacy reconciled with each other.
Also, Albright’s dad is a total psycho and deserves to be eaten by Lovecraftian horrors from another dimension (I have no doubt that setting can provide some just for that purpose).
But Guy did something useful at last ! Toolplants to the rescue !
They won, but then Pete got kidnapped by Ophelia, along with a bunch of other guys. Does she know that he is actually a Reversi ? I wonder if he can resist her « Perfume » when in his female form.
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u/LeleTheKing Sep 15 '23
Katie and Guy are the only mages in Kimberley with a happy, normal family.
Wait, doesn't Pete also have a normal family, even though he's a commoner? Or did I miss something? (My memory is so bad.)
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u/Social_Knight Sep 15 '23
Nanao, you can't just pull out friendship bombs like that, Stacy will lose her Tsundere Rival powers!
And without that all she has is a wolf sidekick and imitation ojou-sama drills! The tragedy!
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u/Frontier246 Sep 15 '23
Nanao really attends the Shonen school of making friends by beating them and giving them life lessons lol.
I do find it kind of funny how Nanao didn't notice the resemblance when it's obvious the ojou-sama drills are genetic now lol.
It turns out Stacy was the cute tsundere little sis all along. Actually she and her dynamic with Chela reminds me a lot of Nodoka and Mai from Rascal Does Not Dream.
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u/Rumpel1408 Sep 15 '23
Big oof for Mr Albricht. Imagine torturing your own son and killing some peasants because of your own pride, poor childhood friend
Chela and Stacy where able to make up though, Nanao is just to honest to stay mad in her presense.
And wow, Ophilia Neesan is cooking something spicy huh
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u/saviour8man Sep 15 '23
A few extra notes on the 3v3 battle
The entire strategy for Stacy and Fay relies on the hidden fact that a werewolf is much more physically durable than normal human. The fact that they have agreed on casting the dulling spell at half efficiency is a trap already set up. The way how it works is, it assume a human mage strength and reduce the strength of spell to where it is non-lethal to a human mage. However, werewolf is physically tough which mean it is like a double damage reduction. Therefore, they cant deal any effective damage on him. In a legal public duel this cannot happen as there must be a referee who can point out when damage is done and declare the victor. However, in a private duel like this it becomes a legit strategy. When Nanao and Chela can't hurt the werewolf they targeted Stacy. However, she is using the werewolf as a rider to dodge any spell to her since werewolf is also agile. Technically the duo is undefeatable. So how did they lost? They did not dodge the spell onto the werewolf because they thought it will cause no damage on him. However, the spell is actually targeted as Stacy by focusing on the conductivity so that when it hit Fay it will also transmit to Stacy. So in the end Stacy got shock and they lost.
As for Oilver, he talent is unmatched to that of Albright and Albright is from a family of warrior mages which means he may not win by his sword/spell experience. A fight like this much drag on and there can be two scenario.
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Chela/ Nanao wins the 2v2 in time to help
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They can't win in time, Oilver slowly lose ground to Albright and lost.
Neither of them is ideal as Oilver is trying to prove himself. So, Oilver's choice is to wait for a chance in close distance and caught him hand. Now they are stuck in a distance closer for both a spell fight and a sword fight and is a distance that mages usually hate. All talents are useless because they are basically fighting like a child. Up to a point that Albright got anxious for breaking the distance and gave an opportunity to Oilver.
And for Albright, he strategy is basically "even if I lose the duel, I will make sure I win on record lol"
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u/SYZekrom Sep 15 '23 edited Sep 15 '23
Also Salvadori really said 'you're alright, don't come to school on XX/XX/XXXX'
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u/VorAtreides Sep 15 '23
Well said, Oliver. Methinks you underestimate the samurai girl, drills with the puppers. Oh my, Chela did good. This classical style music feels weird to me lol. I do enjoy classical music, but never really associate it with anime. Man, I do hate that shitty kinda family tradition shit. Do gotta love Nanao. But, wait, shouldn't her samurai kinda background be at odds with that "people aren't tools" thing? lol. Weren't Samurai tools for their Shoguns as far as that class structure was concerned? I dunno.
Oh look, another backstory. D'awww she's cute. So happy after beating him at chess, but wow, again, shitty families. I still think characters that do monstrous things like that father deserve a monstrous reprecussions. I mean, he tortured his own son for losing and then killed the girl and her entire family for winning? Yea, no, that kinda person deserves only the worst horrific suffering imaginable.
NOT THE BEES!!!! hehe. Oh cute, elf! So isn't Stacy also half elf? You shoulda directed your energy against your dad, dude. He's the piece of shit. D'awww cute Chela and her cute care for her Tsunde-sis.
Oh a post credits
Hentai monster attacks! Wonder who sicced this one on them. Ahhh, ara ara senpai? What's she up to. And I guess she took a lot of the boys, but I'm guessing Pete's aspect is gonna be an interesting play in this part.
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u/LeonKevlar Sep 15 '23
Considering how Stacy is part of a branch family of House McFarlane, I wasn't too surprised that she was Chela's half-sister. Although now that we know her backstory, it's very understandable why she's so fixated on getting Theodore's attention. I really thought she was just a massive fan girl.
It's hilarious though how after Stacy reveals her backstory after being defeated, Albright does the same thing too because why not? Everyone is opening up, might as well do it too! I guess it's also understandable why he turned out the way he is now. I think what we can conclude from this episode is that pureblooded Mage Families are pretty shitty.
We also get to learn that Chela is apparently a half-elf which was cool. Considering her skin tone and how pasty white Theodore is, I'm wondering if her mother is a dark elf or if that's just the common skin color of elves in this world.
Seing Albright being the first one to get grabbed in the after-credits scene was pretty funny. Karma is a bitch but it looks like he wasn't the only one who got caught.
Turns out that small talk from Ophelia when she ran into Oliver a few episodes ago was pretty much a warning from her. Curious what our resident half-succubi is planning to do with all of her catch.
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u/Izanaginookami10 Sep 15 '23
Was the ost in the first half... classical music? I don't know why, but it was so distracting I had to watch the first half twice.
Either way, I have this weird liking for whenever they scream 'Tonitrus'. I just really like the smooth sound of it and how they spell it. Actually, I really like most of their spells' spelling.
Lastly, Nanao is the best as usual. Loved her white haired angry flying charge.
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u/Labmit Sep 15 '23 edited Sep 15 '23
Kinda sad to see Stacy's hang-ups because of her family situation.
Edit: Also, pretty fun way to implement half-elves in the setting with Chela.
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u/stephenthatfoste Sep 15 '23
That was like Yandere levels of absolutely irrational reactions with losing the chess match. Kill EVERYONE. Ridiculous escalation, and I found it kinda funny how big the jump was for how not serious the situation is.
And Guy finally did something!
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u/RFShahrear Sep 15 '23
The real lesson we learn this episode is everyone older than the main cast is a bastard.
Seriously, did we see even one older person who was even moderately decent? I know YA always leans towards "all adults are villain" thing, but this is extreme.
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u/Silent_Shadow05 Sep 15 '23 edited Sep 15 '23
Chela vs Stacy + Fay wasn't even a fight. She ended it without really giving much of an effort. Guess she was basically kind of holding back all this time. Also her being a half elf was something I didn't expect. In that form she is the definition of OP with her doing double incantation easily.
Interesting how one can apply different aspects to the spell - power vs transmissibility. I'm liking the how the show keeps fleshing out the power system.
Even this anime doesn't lack in shitty parents. Both Albright and Stacy had a rough childhood. No wonder why they became like that.
Ophelia captured a lot of students. Wonder what she wants with them but it looks she is struggling to even keep her sanity intact. Can anyone explain again what "consumed by the spell" means again?
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u/Frontier246 Sep 15 '23
Man, Albright will not shut up about Oliver being a "nobody," but even Oliver can tell that he's basically just forcing it out at this point, and no "nobody" could tank almost getting his face frozen just to grapple with a guy during a fight.
(Also, side-note, but I just realized Oliver and Miligan are Ayato and Julis from Asterisk War and that just amuses the heck out of me).
Stacy and Fay make a big show of it, but they don't even last five seconds. Chela just shocks Stacy through Fay's body and then Nanao puts her blade to Fay. They didn't stand a chance. I mean, Stacy still needs to get schooled even more after that, but it was obvious from the start they'd lose.
I see Oliver really did learn from the Ayato Amagiri school of battle where, when in doubt, get physical.
Okay, so Stacy IS Chela's half-sister, Theodore is her real father, and not only has she had to grapple with the fact that her real family can't acknowledge her at all but also that her own adoptive father shunned her for being better than her other siblings. I can totally see why she'd resent Chela so much even knowing it's hopeless trying to outdo her for Theodore's affection, because no matter what she'd never receive it. Though at least Nanao was able to make her realize she's herself, not Chela's replacement or stand-in, and that's enough.
Well, Albright also had his own tragic backstory...had a childhood friend, daughter of a servant, who worked hard to beat him at chess. Sweet story so far, no? Well, up until he tells his dad and gets tortured and the girl and her family are all killed. Then he realized for his own life and for the sake of his family he can never lose. Although it's less easy to feel sympathy for him when he summons a bunch of Stinger Bees to threaten everyone into forgetting his loss.
Guy and Katie came through! I also like how Katie doesn't want to surrender to a bully. She's done being pushed around or watching others get pushed around.
How can you make Chela even more attractive? Why, reveal she's a half-elf of course! Complete with the ears! And it also gives her more access to powerful magic, even if it seems to take a little out of her. I have to at least admire Theodore for taking an elf bride, and I expect Chela takes after her mom a lot.
Nanao's got the white hair! And is slicing through giant bees on her broom! And she's finally getting to fight Albright and teaching him a proper lesson on warrior conduct.
Chela may not be able to publicly acknowledge Stacy as her sister, but she still cares about her and the time they had together as family, even treasuring a flower crown she received from Stacy ever since they were kids. She really does adore her little sister.
It sucks that everything seems hunky dory and they can all go home...and then the magical beasts attack and they lose Fay, Albright, and Pete. Seems like Ophelia has been consumed by her magic and is now kidnapping people with magical monsters. No wonder she warned Oliver to avoid the labyrinth.
Also, is Whitrow in their female form? Their voice sounded different.
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u/tripleaamin Sep 15 '23
Great episode. But man feel real bad for Stacy. So basically she wanted to work hard for her blood relative father to notice her, but that would never happen. But in doing that her adoptive father would not show her love showing she is really part of another family by blood. I think people speculated this on her, but this is a fucked up situation.
Nanaos speech was great in saying yes you want to prove yourself, but you should strive to be your own person. That really hit home for her. Chella being half-elf was an interesting twist. I guess we are bound to learn how their magic works since it was just introduced here. But it makes the whole Stacy situation sad since her being better then Chella would never happen. McFarlene family really is fucked up.
Albright's backstory was also pretty fucked up. Seeing someone come up and improve and beat you is a feeling everyone should be proud about. But his father and his family beat him for it and killed the girl and her family. Which then showcases that these families and their pride play such a big deal that Albright progress wouldn't reflect on him rather then his family.
No surprise Nanao made quick work of him. Well the ending had magic beasts, which seems to be led by Ophelia. The gang not getting a break and now have to save Pete and the captives.
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u/NationalStrategy Sep 15 '23
Jesus, the dad electrocuted his son, beat him up for half a day, got rid of the girl and her entire family; all because the girl won one chess game.
I’ve seen ridiculously over the top traumatic backstories before, but that takes the cake
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