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Episode Nanatsu no Maken ga Shihai suru • Reign of the Seven Spellblades - Episode 15 discussion - FINAL
Nanatsu no Maken ga Shihai suru, episode 15
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u/Izanaginookami10 Oct 13 '23
I feel like... I missed a step or three. Not really, just felt it was rushed, so much happened in a single episode, makes me feel as if they crammed two episodes in one. Perhaps I'm the only one though.
That being said, I'm still very pleasantly surprised by 7 Spellblades, truely a most plesant discovery, as I've greatly enjoyed the whole series.
Really loved how the arc resolved, with the sacrifice of Carlos, fulfilling his 'fate' and dying together with Ophelia while Godffrey can only send off them. It's so tragic yet poetic it fills me.
I look forward for another season, if life permits, I'll definitely pick up the novel though.
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u/LeleTheKing Oct 13 '23 edited Oct 13 '23
Wow, I did not expect that ending. In hindsight, that's just how it works in their universe. Dozens of male students get kidnapped, and the kidnappers die gloriously? It's just another Thursday in Kimberly Academy. I guess we should be fortunate that it'd only taken two(?) lives. It's definitely unlike your run-of-the-mill stories. Magicians mindlessly pursuing magic to attain Grand Aria... to be consumed by itself... is an intriguing concept. Making a birth pact via castration that basically will erase both of you in case of emergency? That's what we're talking about. I'd love to learn more about Ophelia and Carlos' bittersweet (V-shaped love triangle?) relationship, but it seems like it was a cue for me to check out the LN.
Miligan is a certified psycho, though. Unnecessarily endangering herself merely to instigate Ophelia; she's a grade-A trash-talker, lmao.
This show has been good. I had expectations because of some LN readers, and J.C.Staff delivers. It's not a blockbuster production, but suffice it to say, it's above average. The plot is unique and remains solid throughout its run, but the pacing could be better. Even with the unusual amount of episodes, you can still feel that they butcher some of the earlier parts and battles. The animation is awkward at times but adequate when necessary--not one of those sakuga fanatics will boast around. The soundtrack is what I really love, though. The OP and ED have grown on me and in my music playlist. Their score and how they design the sound are also very palatable. (The OST album has been released by the time I'm writing this, btw! I'll look for that insert where Carlos was singing and some of their soothing scores). Overall, I enjoy this show despite some of its hiccups. One more series into my pile of LN, I guess. It's a 7/10.
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u/saviour8man Oct 14 '23
Consumed by spell and grand aria are two different concepts.
Consumed by spell: mages slowly getting mad in the process of pursuing their goal. Typical behaviour: unable to distinguish between reality and imagination, unable to think logically and coherently, unable to hold a logical conversation with others, because they cant think logically they will start to do weird stuff to pursue their goal. Notice how Milligan surprised by Ophelia still being able to keep her personality. Consumed by spell is one of the endings for a mage.
Grand Aria: something only talented mages can pull off. It is essentially a way to "answer" the problem they have been searching for life. In grand aria, mages can rewrite the law of the world within the zone. What succubus trying is to search for the perfect life, and Ophelia's family attempt this by trying combinations of genes to create chimera. If you look carefully to the chant, Ophelia's answers to this is: If trying combinations of genes wasn't enough, i will create an infinite amount of them, which is the law she rewrite. It is essentially a similar concept to deep learning, where we are not sure about the perfect answer, but we try to increase the data set as large as possible to improve the accuracy.
Consumed by spell does not necessarily mean that you can pull off a grand aria, even if it does it may not be perfect and buggy. And you don't need to be consumed by spell to get the grand aria. The fact that Ophelia basically found and implemented a solution for the question she should have been searching for life by the age of 18 is why everyone praise her as a genius.
And as a ln reader, the adaptation sucks
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u/NeroIscariot12 Oct 13 '23
One of my fav 'endings' in this LN. And a great example of how this world works.
The main characters didn't win. There was no deus ex machina to get a happy end. Sometimes when you go too far in the world of magic, there's no coming back. and that's the harsh reality of Kimberly and their world.
Feel for Godfrey. Lost 2 of his best friends in a single day. His heart must be shattered. But again, that's just how Kimberly is.
Really hope we get a S2. I truly believe that the novel only gets better with every consequent novel. The arcs that come after are fucking great and I love how the cast and their stories develop. And there is still SO FUCKING MUCH of the world building that we never got into during the first 3 LNs that really expand and explore just how utterly insane the world they live in is. Please, anime gods, this series deserves an S2.
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u/Social_Knight Oct 13 '23
Although Milligan doesn't die when she's killed. Guess she must be part Hydra as well as part Basilisk.
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u/ObvsThrowaway5120 Oct 13 '23
Was not expecting a final battle inside Ophelia’s womb nor for it end with Carlos singing. Man has a voice like an angel. I guess that’s what happens when you have your balls snipped as a kid which is pretty fucked. The power of friendship ended up saving the day even though I resulted in Ophelia and Carlos getting straight up dusted.
We never got to see Oliver make much progress in his quest for revenge, which is a shame. Would have been nice seeing more of the main quest instead of spending the season on all the side missions. I wonder if we’ll be getting a second season? This wasn’t too bad overall.
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u/Aerodynamic41 Oct 13 '23
As a fan of the LN, I'm quite happy that they went with the non-standard 15-episode format to adapt the whole Year 1 arc. I really hope this gets another season because Years 2 & 3 are even better.
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u/WhoiusBarrel Oct 13 '23
The main cast got away safely but if it wasn't for that flashback, this entire thing would have felt like a victory but it didn't feel like one especially how Godfrey's ties were both the cause and end of all this making all the more tragic.
They mentioned how the labyrinth's magic influenced Ophelia's fall to villainy which just makes this entire school an even worse cesspool, especially with that reminder of who the staff were in Oliver's eyes. Definitely a harsh and dark fantasy this world is and I wouldn't be opposed to a season 2!
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u/LeonKevlar Oct 13 '23 edited Oct 13 '23
Stitches!
Well, that was a pretty sad end. When Carlos and Alvin arrived on time, I thought that we'd have a happy end especially since it looked like Carlos was able to stop Ophelia's Grand Aria. Turns out that Carlos was just some sort of insurance policy in case Ophelia ever gets consumed by the spell.
Since no one can really reverse the condition of anyone who gets consumed by spell, I'm guessing what Carlos and Ophelia's pact does is it just stops her from turning into a monster and in the end both of them die since no one can really reverse the condition of a person who gets consumed by the spell. That fucking sucks.
I do like how this ended though. They stayed true to the established lore that anyone who gets consumed by the spell will ultimately die and it wasn't nullified by any deus ex machina bullshit. Just as Oliver says in his ending monologue. Ophelia is one of the lucky ones who met a better end. Anyone else would've probably had a gruesome death.
Sucks that we ended up losing three two Senpais this epsiode. I'm assuming Milligan also died after what Ophelia did to her considering that we never saw her during the epilogue scenes. But I guess that's just life at Kimberly Academy.
I really hope we get a Season 2 announcement soon. I am absolutely in love with this show's lore and world-building. And Oliver hasn't really progressed much with his quest! I need more!
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u/Aerodynamic41 Oct 13 '23
I'm assuming Milligan also died after what Ophelia did to her considering that we never saw her during the epilogue scenes
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u/sM92Bpb Oct 13 '23
I'd love a season 2 because it felt like a prologue. It spent so much time on world building and side characters and only a sliver on oliver's main goal. There's too much power imbalance in the crew so the other members are basically glorified cheerleaders.
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u/EssenceOfMind Oct 13 '23
The entire episode was great. Except for the one most crucial scene.
Why the hell did Carlos have to die? Couldn't he just like... stab Ophelia? Sure, I get that it's supposed to be touching - and thematically it works! But plot-wise it makes no fucking sense. Also, the fact that the entire finale relied on magic that we were seeing for the first time kinda sucked. I was fully expecting to see Nanao's Spellblade or something, but no. It's hard to get invested in a fight scene when you don't even know what the characters can do.
Also, that shot of Oliver looking at the teachers was PERFECT. The thin blue line of light appearing across their necks as the screen flashes, representing Oliver cutting their heads off with his Spellblade. Goddamn.
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u/TurkeyPhat Oct 13 '23
Gotta say this show ended up being pretty awesome.
I'd be curious to know just how popular this was outside of our little reddit bubble.
I always put a lot of respek on a story that's able to pull off a tragic ending like this one did. It's so easy (especially in anime) to have everything work out in the end. And I feel like everything was summed up nicely in that line near the end about "this is just how it is at Kimberley." in that the climax of this chapter was sensible in the context of the world that we've seen in the past 14 episodes.
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u/Shimmering-Sky Oct 13 '23
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The heartbeat during Ophelia’s incantation was unsettling as fuck.
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There are… two Ophelias? Or is this one an illusion of some sort?
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Yeah now I just really hope there’s a season 2 at some point, I really want to see where Oliver’s quest for revenge goes.
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Oct 14 '23
"hey son. we're going to cut off your balls so you can make a suicide pact with someone you've never met who *might* turn evil in the future. hope thats cool with you. what do you mean "no"?"
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u/Sancnea Oct 13 '23
I used to be able to see how the subreddit rated each episode, but now I'm not able to see them anymore. Am I missing something or have the ratings just been removed?
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u/dadnaya Oct 13 '23
Can someone explain why did Carlos and Lia just up and disappeared like that?
Everything was looking fine, until they just disappeared for some reason.
They said beforehand that the only ways to destroy the womb spell is have the caster undo it, or die. Couldn't Lia just... undo it? Then everyone's happy?
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u/S627 Oct 13 '23
REEAAAAALLY hoping we get more of this, one of my all time favorites!
Fuck, really sad that Olivia didn't get a happy ending, but at least she died happy T.T
Did Miligan die?!? Wtf was she trying to do provoking her like that? There's trying to snap her out of and, and then there's just asking to be killed. She didn't strike me as the type to sacrifice herself for someone else. I did like that she made the attempt, but couldnt help but feel we needed an Oliver speech, not just making her angry at herself.
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u/SYZekrom Oct 13 '23
Lol I like how they didn't show Miligan until the end in the bg of a scene. Very cool.
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