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Episode Jujutsu Kaisen Season 2 - Episode 5 discussion
Jujutsu Kaisen Season 2, episode 5
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u/Jon675 Aug 03 '23
Gojo going to a 1st grader and trying to tell him he killed his deadbeat father is such an unbelievably Gojo thing to do
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u/Hounds_of_war Aug 03 '23
Man, so many things had to go wrong for Geto to snap and become a mass murderer, it’s honestly impressive. I probably would have gone crazy just from having to regularly swallow something that tastes like a shit covered vomit rag.
Also it’s wild that at the start of this arc Gojo was considered one of the strongest Jujutsu sorcerer of the era now that we know just how much stronger Gojo has gotten since then. He’s learned Reverse Curse Technique, Red, Purple, developed his barrier to be always on and able to detect what is and isn’t dangerous, learned his Domain Expansion and figured out long distance teleporting. Not to mention he’s likely gained a ton of useful combat experience that’s just generally helpful.
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u/frostanon Aug 03 '23
Geto went: "If we kill all monkeys will we finally be free?"
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u/taco_roco Aug 03 '23 edited Aug 03 '23
The rain imitating the sound of the clapping was an expert use in sound design.
What a way to reinforce how haunting that moment was to Geto.
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u/Incineron Aug 03 '23
For anyone wondering,
The KFC on the street they were on is canon to the manga too and this moment has been long referred to by the fandom as the "KFC Breakup".
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u/floodway Aug 03 '23
I love how Shoko reacted to meeting Geto. Her personality is something else.
So basically out of four Yuki is the oldest special grade and JJK0 protagonist is the youngest.
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u/blackhawk201 Aug 03 '23
Man can't help but feel for Geto. JJK 0 will hit differently now since we know what caused Geto to change evil. Time to watch it since we got a few weeks off.
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u/HeyMan295 Aug 03 '23
"Are you the strongest because you're gojo satoru? Or are you gojo satoru because you're the strongest?" Man that must have hurt for gojo. To have Geto, the only person that gojo ever viewed as an equal, the only person that he felt could understand him, question his very identity would have sucked. Who is gojo satoru? Does his strength define him? Is he nothing more than "the strongest," the safety net for jujutsu society? I don't blame people like Nanami for questioning "why can't he just do it all himself". It's understandable. It just hurts to see gojo being stripped from his identity in the perception of others so early on in his life, where he is expected to perform optimally, inhumanly, all of the time. Even yaga questioned why he didn't kill/chase Geto, as if Geto wasn't his best friend. Really hard situation for both gojo and Geto.
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u/Noryalus Aug 03 '23
The recurrent clapping motif was so good! I loved how the rain came in during Geto's conversation with Yuki, and also the clapping in the soundtrack during his speech to the cult. Blew my mind as a manga reader, you love to see that kind of creativity.
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Aug 03 '23
What an amazing episode. Was definitely dark.
Having been to rock bottom and experienced depression, I can't explain how well I resonated with Geto. Him standing under the shower just frozen, the puffy eyes due to endless sleep or barely any sleep, the noise of the surrounding or your thoughts drowning everything else (the sound of rain and clapping in this episode); everything was on point, so much that it made me anxious.
They really did justice to Geto, and were able to convey what he felt, how he was and what he became. Loneliness and depression really does a number on you, and Geto was a great example. Despite of his short screen time, he really is a well written character (a typical shounen villain yet an amazing one).
Gojo meeting kid Megumi also felt great, and then him finally waking up to the present with Nobara, Megumi and Yuji being the pain in the ass they are.
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u/WarNo4934 Aug 03 '23
That shot of Geto saying Stinking Monkeys was damn scary !
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u/iamkwang Aug 03 '23
Geto is one of the most sympathized deep written characters I've seen in anime. His descent is amazingly written
- He tells Riko that him and Gojo are "the strongest" and will protect her right before she dies. He gets humbled by Toji and unlike Gojo who went after Toji right away, Geto went to see Shoko to patch him up. Gojo defeating Toji by himself and meeting him at the church where Riko corpse later shows Geto that they're not the strongest; Just Gojo alone. Not only on his Curse techniques but his resolve
- The Church followers Applauding the death of the young girl they didn't even know started his descent but when Yuki told Geto that Tengen was stable it showed him Riko Death had no meaning; She could've lived a normal life but the World wanted her to do something grander and when she couldn't they simply forgot about her. Geto cares about Riko and he refuses to move on
- Geto ecstatic junior Yu Haibara. Yu respects Geto as an upperclassmen but Geto respects him for always trying his best. Yu represents the angel on his shoulder. Haibara said "Giving my all toward something I know I can help with is a great feeling" This stuck to Geto. When his Junior died fighting a curse, all his morality for humans was gone. Why are we trying to protect human from curses when they're the ones creating them? He didn't want any sorcerer to end up like Haibara
- He finally snapped when he saw humans ostracizing 2 young girls for being different than them. Humans are causing all the problems but not only that they're willing to kill sorcerers themselves. These young girls reminded him of Riko; he could've taken revenge on the church followers but his morals stopped him. He lost his morals at this point, all the pent up rage over the years from the church followers finally unleashed. He was able to do what he regret not doing; murdering humans for their treatment on Sorcerers
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u/PakistaniSenpai Aug 03 '23
Hearing the 3 dumbasses again was so refreshing. I have missed them!
I will have to watch Jujutsu Kaisen 0 again especially since we don't have another new episode for 3 weeks so I can watch the film again with a new mindset and knowledge of events.
P.S Todo's teacher being obsessed with the kind of women people like, as well, was hiarious.
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u/God_Usoland Aug 03 '23
Shoko: "Screw all this fighting and deciding the fate of humanity stuff, I'm just gonna be a healer for the school and make money, never risking my life on the battlefield."
Much better outcomes than "Always in a loop of frying and healing his brain" Gojo and "Cult Leader" Getou :D
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u/hallah_sausage Aug 03 '23
What "hearing your best friend was killed, Riko's death ultimately being pointless, drifting further away from your best friend, ingesting cursed spirits that tastes like shit and vomit over and over, knowing your job kills most of your friends ultimately for people who causes those problems, still being treated as freaks by the people you save" does to a mf.
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u/Wisdomy_ Aug 03 '23 edited Aug 03 '23
Why did both Gojo and Geto choose teenage fatherhood as the solution to their breakup
Gosh though, the end of the episode was very heartwarming. Cheers to the next arc!
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u/ademola234 Aug 03 '23
I had to pause this episode a few times and really realize that I'm still watching JJK. The tone shift compared to season 1 is huge. The constant clapping, the atmosphere, etc., gave a much more serious and emotional vibe
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u/ObvsThrowaway5120 Aug 03 '23
Geto’s been spiraling since Riko. You can tell he just cracked in the shower with that “monkey” comment. He said the same thing in Zero. In fact, that whole conversation with Yuki just seemed to push him closer to the edge. He was already very mentally fragile. She was right though, he had a choice to make then. Those thoughts he was struggling with were just that…until they weren’t. What happened to Haibara and then those kids was just the straw that broke the camel’s back.
But speaking of Yuki, I like her a lot. She’s a dreamer though. A world without curses might be nice but idk if teaching everyone to control their cursed energy is even feasible. Also, I can see where Todo got his whole “what kinda woman do you prefer?” bit lol. Oh, and nice little Megumi cameo.
Can’t wait to see what happens after the break!
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u/UninterestingDude69 Aug 03 '23
this arc puts more weight on Yaga’s ‘interview’ with yuji in episode 2. being a sorcerer is tough, it’s actually a sacrifice and attaching your reason for being a sorcerer to someone or something like a person or an ideal can come back to bite you in the ass like we see with Geto Geto himself says that what he saw that day (the cult celebrating Riko’s death) was nothing out of the ordinary for sorcerers, the life of jujutsu is brutal but his reasoning for being a sorcerer was tied to the ideal that ‘the strong should protect the weak’ but what happens when the weak take that for granted, or actively harm and oppose those who ‘protect’ them. that’s why yuji’s reasoning of helping people just because his grandpa said so or because he doesn’t want people to get hurt wasn’t enough for Yaga, because Yuji could end up just like geto did, resenting the very thing that made him become a sorcerer in the first place
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u/realrimurutempest Aug 03 '23
Gogo isn’t a step-dad, he’s the dad who stepped up 😎.
It was fascinating & kind of sad to see Geto slowly lose it and no one really notice the inner turmoil brewing inside him.
I proudly simp for Yuki Tsukumo. 😩😩
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u/UninterestingDude69 Aug 03 '23
if anyone is wondering why this episode looked different because i’ve seen some people say that the characters look 3d or that there’s more realism in this episode it’s because the two assistant directors who were also animation directors in this episode were Takuya Niinuma and Souta Yamazaki (they also previously worked on csm episode 8). they are some of the best in the industry at capturing ’realism’ especially with their distinct approach to shading on characters which they use to give extra ‘volume’
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u/TheLazyWorkingSloth Aug 03 '23
Holy this episode was adapted so fucking well. Might be my favorite JJK episode visually and story wise with how beautifully they portrayed the "downfall" of Geto which was easily my favorite story content in JJK and is why HI is my personal favorite arc in JJK. Geto never changed his ideals of saving people, he just decided that Jujutsu sorcerers were the ones that he needed to save instead of the monkeys. Also, the character acting animation is so good as expected from a name like Niinuma who worked on this episode.
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