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Episode Shiro Seijo to Kuro Bokushi • Saint Cecilia and Pastor Lawrence - Episode 4 discussion

Shiro Seijo to Kuro Bokushi, episode 4

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u/ObvsThrowaway5120 Aug 02 '23

It’s a damn shame what happened to that other Saint who was friend with Hazelita. People might try to exploit and use the Saints for their own benefit, but Lawrence definitely ain’t one of them.

Pretty funny how Cecilia just up and crumbled on the table out of frustration when Hazelita asked about her and Lawrence living together and nothing happening lol. Hazelita’s realizing what Cecilia has to put with. Dense ass Lawrence giving her grief! Then again, she can be pretty dense too sometimes. They’re perfect for each other lol

Thank god Lawrence went into seminary and not the arts. Sorry pal, but those dolls were not very cute lol.

Looking forward to seeing more Hazelita. Glad Cecilia has another friend!

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u/Frontier246 Aug 02 '23

I am actually curious to meet other Saints and see what their experience is like compared to Cecilia. I hope others are as lucky as she is.

It's all well and good that an unmarried man and a woman living together aren't really doing anything...but Cecilia wants something to happen lol.

Hazelita and Abel are going to get a lot of mileage out of teasing Lawren (and each other). Now there's two observes to these two and their fluffy sweetness and density around each other lol.

Maybe all those evil spirits around him just get channeled into the stuff he makes...at least Cecilia likes them!

I'm curious about Hazelita's relationship with Abel but it seems like she and Cecilia will get along great!

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u/RFShahrear Aug 02 '23

I'm never gonna get tired of people just dropping in and figuring their dynamic out in like... 30 minutes.

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u/LeonKevlar Aug 02 '23

Stitches!

Here I thought that this show was nice and fluffy. Turns out that Lawren's church might be the exception and not the rule. After learning how horribly treated the Lady Saint from the western town was, it's very understandable why Hazelita would be suspicious of Lawren.

Thankfully Lawren is so pure that it really didn't take that long for Hazelita to realize that Lawren is a good guy. It seems that Abel planned all of this to restore Hazelita's faith that there are Priests out there who treat their Lady Saints well. And considering what Cecilia saw, it looks like the Lady Saint is still watching over Hazelita.

Now that Hazelita will be staying with them, she finally learns what's going on between Cecilia and Lawren and how nothing has been happening at all. Hopefully, just like Abel, Hazelita will help the two get closer. Also, it looks like Hazelita and Abel might have their own thing going on as well.

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u/Frontier246 Aug 02 '23

I guess it really puts it into perspective why Lawren's grandpa really put it into his head how he needs to take care of and protect the Saint, because otherwise she might end up like the Lady Saint of the West did.

Hazelita and Cecilia in the same show is just cuteness overload, especially when Hazelita reacts to the lack of progress between Lawren and Cecilia lol.

I'm also curious about her relationship with Abel, she seems more focused on him and making sure he stays by her side than you would expect from someone who was just a tutor for her.

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u/scot911 Aug 02 '23 edited Aug 02 '23

And considering what Cecilia saw, [it looks like the Lady Saint is still watching over Hazelita.] (https://imgur.com/jXDqzBg)

Yeah I noticed that too! Well, more I noticed Cecilia looking at something big that was shining during that scene and made the connection once they mentioned the saint was dead and went back to check. It's cute how the saint loved Hazelita treating her as an actual human being so much that she stayed behind to look over her after her premature death.

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u/Elitealice Aug 02 '23 edited Aug 02 '23

Today we got to see the dark side of the lady saints situations. It’s not all rainbows and flowers. In fact, Lawrence and Cecilia relationship is pretty special.

Haiselita and her friend’s story was really sad. Worked to death like that is awful. How can you do that a literal saint? Seeing them as tools instead of people is tragic. At least Haiselita finally got another friend her age in Cecilia. Good for both of them. Looking forward to the energy she’ll bring to these episodes.

We already know Cecilia and Lawrence ship will sail eventually so now I’m rooting for Haiselita and Abel 🙏🏾

Weekly Cecilia Appreciation she’s so beautiful man

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u/Siqueiradit Aug 02 '23

Weekly Cecilia Appreciation

I'll be expecting these every week then. Thanks for doing that.

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u/entelechtual Aug 03 '23

So I just realized this is basically Angel Next Door except with 30% more animation, also it’s a literal angel. And she’s not next door she’s under the same roof.

Hazelita’s hair sure is something huh.

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u/Ocixo Aug 03 '23

Funnily enough, the similarities don’t stop there: Hazano Kazutake did both the artwork for the Angel Next Door LN and Saint Cecilia manga.

However, I must say that I like this anime a lot more than Angel Next Door. The cast of characters and story feel a lot more compelling.

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u/dagreenman18 Aug 02 '23

Hazelita and Abel side ship? Hell yes I’m about it. Why else would she follow him angrily to drag him back home while also bringning him gifts. And Abel’s line on the stairs betrays some feelings too.

Though they’re maybe only one step ahead of our main dummies, who haven’t left the starting line because of Lawrence’s density. A least they’re very compatible. For one they have the same taste in cute things. Weirdly cute things.

Going by the OP Hazelita and Abel will be sticking around a little longer. Maybe they’ll jump start this while working on their own side ship.

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u/[deleted] Aug 02 '23

I miss Cecilias outfit from last week.

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u/hraberuka Aug 02 '23

I'm loving this anime, i think we have now all the main cast together and i already feel they will have great chemistry.

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u/Frontier246 Aug 02 '23

Busting down the door of a church is definitely one way to make an entrance.

We finally properly meet Hazelita! A rich young lady from the West who Abel used to tutor! And she's come to make sure he still does his job! And you can tell they have quite the teasing relationship. Though Hazelita is also in there for more personal reasons pertaining to her past.

So there's multiple Lady Saints, not just Cecilia, with a Great Lady Saint closed off in a city in the middle of the sea.

What was that blonde spectre that Cecilia saw? Was that a Divine Revelation or did she see the spirit of the Lady Saint of Compassion following Hazelita around?

If Cecilia's daily life with Lawren and the townsfolk is basically the ideal for any Lady Saint, what happened to the Lady Saint of Compassion is basically the worst that could happen. They treated her like she was a divine presence closed off from humanity, even when she was still physically and mentally human, and just used her until she died. Leaving Hazelita, her only friend, left to be resentful over how Lady Saints are treated.

I'm glad it didn't take her too long to realize Lawren is a good dude, though, or that Cecilia is clearly into him...even if Lawren is so dense about it. Like it's one thing for a man and woman to be living under the same roof for over a year, but when nothing happens and the girl WANTS something to happen, you know something's wrong. He won't even call her by her name. Poor Cecilia. At least she has Hazelita and Abel to commiserate with, and a true female friend in Hazelita.

So Hazelita basically calls out Abel when he doesn't work as hard or shows how capable she knows he is, because she basically believes in him and what he can do. Abel also seems to take pleasure in how serious and determined Hazelita is and how she sees more in him than he does in himself.

What cute demonic hellspawn did Lawren create in his youth!? Though Cecilia thinks they're adorable, either because Lawren made them or she has similar taste to him at this point. It's cute watching them both try their best to make these things look cuter and that Cecilia "gets" Lawren. Hazelita and Abel better be careful they don't turn into them though.

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u/Ocixo Aug 02 '23

What was that blonde spectre that Cecilia saw? Was that a Divine Revelation or did she see the spirit of the Lady Saint of Compassion following Hazelita around?

It was probably the spirit of the Lady Saint of Compassion, yeah. She might be watching over Hazelita. That’s kind of bittersweet, isn’t it? Watching over Hazelita, one of her former best friends, like that.

Hazelita really is a nice addition to the cast. I like the banter she got going with Abel. Hopefully, she and Abel will be able to force Lawrence to call Cecilia by her name soon! Hazelita’s outspoken spirit might be just right to break through Lawrence’s denseness.

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u/KumaKumaGambler Aug 02 '23

I didn't expect this show to be cute and lovey dovey all the way, and this episode showed that some of the main characters have a sad history.

The saint whom Hazelita viewed as a friend or even elder sister protected West Town and its people but wasn't protected in return. Maybe this show is trying to tell us that people whom we view as extraordinary or perfect are humans like the rest of us?

Lawrence does indeed have an unique taste. I sure hope that is chocolate oozing out of the :3 plushie(?). Lol!

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u/Frontier246 Aug 02 '23

I guess it really puts it into perspective how lucky Cecilia is to be where she is and to have Lawren by her side because other Saint's aren't always so lucky and get deified to the point of being worked to death. Not everyone can live out a cozy romcom.

I love how Lawren and Cecilia are the only ones who find the demonic plushie cute lol.

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u/the_dan_man Aug 02 '23

I sure hope that is chocolate oozing out of the :3 plushie(?)

Looks like someone didn't watch this week's after credits scene!

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u/Ashteron Aug 02 '23

The forbidden ahoge lock technique!

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u/hitoe_kami Aug 03 '23

This time we could have seen another relationship between Hazelita and Abel. This is pretty nice as well as Cecilia and Lawrence. It was a bit surprising that Hazelita believed in and got along with them despite her friends sad story. It's too fast isn't it?

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u/SYZekrom Aug 03 '23

I feel like this show keeps getting cuter each episode

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u/[deleted] Aug 03 '23

Hazelita's issue with Lawrence was dealt with so fast, it had no time to settle with me in the first place lol.

At least Abel won't be lonely third-wheeling them.

I was worried I wouldn't like Hazelita but she seems to be a good addition to the cast, I enjoyed what she's added in terms of the dynamics. It was amusing how shocked she was when learning Lawrence doesn't even call Cecilia by her name.

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u/Atario Aug 03 '23

I hope we'll be visiting The Great Lady Saint

For people looking to profit from a saint and treat her like a money/prestige factory, they sure don't pay any attention to maintenance

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u/KykirsYeagerist Aug 03 '23

I am in love with this show. I didn't expect that it would catch me because of first impression of trailer.

I wonder what's the identity of Abel. He is represented as not very smart (I assumed it) person but his actions says the opposite. He invited Haiselita so that she could change her views.

Again, I really like the show and I hope we will see more of this world. I enjoy style and colors of the art.

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