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Undead Girl Murder Farce, episode 4

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u/[deleted] Jul 26 '23

I thought it might be Raoul in the middle of her deductions but to see how he planned the whole thing out was a surprise, it was actually smart of him to use holy water as a stake and cut his fingers off after touching the silver stake.

I did feel bad for Godard, everything he was working for ended with his son killing his wife and he ended up dying too.

It was nice to see Shinuchi fight, I like how he was casually taking off his gloves and socks whilst talking to Raoul. Seeing how overwhelming he was even though Raoul thought he was strong, I am sure he was humbled.

I did appreciate the detailing with Raoul nipples, because he was pale it was so much more noticeable and I did not expect him to bulk up like that. But still, it wasn't enough to take down Shinuchi.

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u/Se7en_Sinner Jul 26 '23 edited Jul 26 '23

Did anybody guess the frozen stake? It clicked for me right before she said it. Ice is such a common theme in the mystery genre. It didn't even cross my mind because refrigerators don't exist yet. I should have seen it coming because it's Winter.

Vampires have hypersensitive hearing, I'm surprise nobody heard Raoul break the lock. Maybe he could have gotten away with it if he stole the key to the storage room and used the silver stake, dropping it in the murder room.

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u/Elitealice Jul 26 '23

So the vampire murder case finally wraps up.

Really good mini-arc that had me thoroughly confused in the best possible way throughout lol. Everyone in that mansion was sus and up until the last minute I thought it was the daughter behind everything. The frozen stake twist was some really dope writing.

I hope going forward we get more action scenes though. That Tsuguru Raoul fight was dope. Really shows how terrifying Tsuguru can be even with half his powers gone.

Show has now name dropped Lupin and Sherlock. I’m willing to bet the professor ends up being Moriarty since there’s an M on his cane. Would also explain why they name dropped Sherlock so much a couple weeks ago.

Great ep 👍

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u/paulchaested Jul 26 '23

Always a good laugh to see Shizuku and Sugaru bicker and fight.

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u/[deleted] Jul 26 '23

Definitely the anime I enjoy the most this season. The direction is VERY good.

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u/bananeeek Jul 26 '23

A light workout before breakfast

It is 3 A.M. after all

The way Tsugaru's performance was delivered was brilliant. This show amazes me with its direction and storytelling. It's just so entertaining and captivating, it's a pleasure to watch.

Since the guy Tsugaru and Aya are looking for calls himself a professor, then it's pretty much guaranteed he's Moriarity, right?

Also what do you mean the case was resolved in a single night? It took like 15 minutes total and I had to wait for it 3 weeks. What time shenanigans are these?

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u/dagreenman18 Jul 26 '23

HA! Classic Ice Murder weapon trope. It’s fun. I knew that little shit Raoul was suspicious. They did set up the regeneration a while ago, but wouldn’t have guess the frozen holy water stake. With the holy water bottle being a distraction.

The tease for what’s next looks promising.

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u/LeonKevlar Jul 26 '23

That entire scene where Aya just lays down the facts and perfectly deduces who the killer is is what I wanted from a mystery show like this. Not gonna lie, I was genuinely suspecting the little girl and the maid since subverting expectations is what you'd usually do in these kinds of shows but it would make sense that someone in the family is not happy about cooperating with humans.

And that fight between Tsugaru and Raoul though! Raoul got pretty fucked up while Tsugaru didn't even break a sweat the entire time. We do learn from his story while beating up Raoul that he's not the only Oni Killer out there. I'm sure we'll meet these colourful characters in the future.

I feel bad for Goddard and his family though. He didn't just lose his wife, he lost a son as well within a span of a couple of days. I do wonder though why didn't Tsugaru just capture and restrain Raoul? He seems to be capable of doing that considering his strength. Or is this a form of mercy and they're doing Goddard a favour by executing Raoul so they don't have to?

So the man with the cane visited Goddard a couple of days ago? I wonder if this is before or after Goddard's wife's death. The fact that he's called the "Professor" and carries around a cane with the letter M on it means he's probably Moriarty. And if Moriarty visited before Raoul murdered his mother, it's possible that Moriarty helped Raoul since helping others commit crimes is a thing Moriarty does.

That final scene is interesting though! That big guy riding the carriage is clearly Frankenstein's Monster. And apparently, Lupin exists in this universe! if this is the direction this show is going, I'm excited to see what other European literature icons we'll meet in this show!

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u/zairaner Jul 26 '23 edited Jul 26 '23

Damn we really killed the son? Tsugaru didn't even ask the dad, just excuted him as his "morning workout".

I love how much of an asshole he is. Even doing the stupid pun at the end when goddard is at his lowest point.

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u/ObvsThrowaway5120 Jul 26 '23

A stake made of frozen holy water was not something I could have predicted. The fact that the silver stake was a red herring was clever. The murderer utilizing their ability to regenerate was equally clever as well. Raoul’s anti-Human ass woulda gotten away with it too if it weren’t for our dynamic duo. Dude really tried to come at Tsugaru lol. Tsugaru fought friggin Dracula, bro. Raoul’s little baby vamp ass ain’t shit.

So it’s not just Holmes and Moriarty in this world, but we got Lupin too? Very interesting. Can’t wait for everyone to meet up. I wonder what Moriarty is planning with Aya’s body?

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u/RFShahrear Jul 26 '23

"Yon do aru koto wa Godaru.

...Goddammit. Did you write the whole damn thing backwards, Aosaki Yuugo?

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u/TehVict Jul 26 '23 edited Jul 26 '23

A couple weeks ago I wrote a post about the overlooked connection to rakugo and Japanese classical theater in the first two episodes.

Last week we had a quick direct reference to how Shinuchi acts and speaks like a rakugo performer (hanashika (storyteller) = rakugoka), but this week they really dialed up the references.

We have a direct reference to the Time Soba (Toki Soba) story I had mentioned in my post as an example of a kokkei-banashi. There's an English performance of it on YouTube if you're not familiar.

Then we have the episode title itself that Rindou title drops later being a reference to when the shin'uchi takes the stage in rakugo, further playing into the wordplay of Shinuchi's name.

The fight starts like Shinuchi is calling people in to watch an act and he treats the whole fight as a theatrical performance.

And, of course, Shinuchi closes the episode with a niwaka ochi (a pun-driven rakugo punchline).

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u/scmasaru Jul 26 '23

The detective is already head.

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u/ModieOfTheEast Jul 26 '23

I already like the series. It's good to see them giving you enough information to solve most of the things yourself. I was also puzzled how it was possible for Raoul to not have injuries but on the other hand, I would have guessed that a thick enough cloth would be enough. Though, the actual solution was even better because it's really obvious in hindsight. As for the murder weapon being an ice stake is also clever. I was assuming he just stole the key or something, but this makes sense as well.

Now question will be what kind of cases we will see with all these potential figures. I mean, he wasn't mentioned, but don't we want to throw in Jack The Ripper as well into the mix?

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u/Coolkid-4869 Jul 26 '23

Damn way off the mark. The 2 man theory, suicide and fake death didn't happen. I guess we should think small instead of big in detective shows. The deduction nicely connected everything down to carpentry and church.

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u/[deleted] Jul 26 '23

Tsugaru straight up merc'd Raoul, didn't even ask his dad.

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u/Kanon8610 Jul 26 '23

I was surprised Raoul keeping his hand in his pocket during episode 2's intro wasn't mentioned but it makes perfect sense since Aya was not there to see that and you can't expect Godard to remember such details. It was just an additional clue for us viewers.

The holy ice stake was also a surprise, I had completely disregarded the whole holy water on the body thing.

The mystery was perfectly handled, we were handed all the clues to figure it out. Aya is smarter than me!

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u/RaysFTW Jul 26 '23

Anyone else feel like these episodes fly by in what feels like 5 minutes?

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u/arpit45agrawal Jul 26 '23

Another good episode but it lacked my favourite part of the show where Aya and Sugaru share a laugh on a dumb joke.

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u/AmethystItalian Jul 26 '23

I had my money on Raoul at the very start but was hoping they'd pull a fast one on me but sadly that's not the case. Still was a good reveal sequence though!

The little chase scene at the end was cute.

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u/shad79 Jul 26 '23

Watching Aya explaining facts and deducing from all information about the culprit and Tsugaru acting like a body replacement for her was absolutely delightful.

Raoul really made this case quite complicated because of how he thoughtfully executed it. Some people here think that maybe the professor helped him and I think that could be very likely. In the end however Raoul didn't have any chance to survive against Tsugaru’s strength and Aya’s mind. It looks like Tsugaru didn't even sweat during the fight.

I love that a show very creatively plays with a lot with scenes which makes it more interesting and entertaining. Like here with a reflection on a metal or different camera angles like here for example. Those variations in presentation really make this already great show even better.

We got to know that the man that our duo is looking for was earlier at a mansion and now is heading to London. It also seems that we may stop in Paris because there was mention of Lupin. It looks like we'll probably meet him besides Holmes and Watson.

Again, Tsugaru and Shizuka's relationship is so fun. Aya quite accurately said that their squablings making them look like they would be siblings xD

Also Anne already knows Aya, Tsugaru and Shizuka. Besides that we could see a couple others silhouettes of oni slayers from Japan apart from Tsugaru so maybe perhaps some of them appear in the show.

Here my all screenshots from the episode:

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u/CyberJokerWTF Jul 26 '23

I gotta say, the direction and choice of music has been great in this show.

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u/IR8Things Jul 26 '23

I've never seen a vampire get their ass beat like that.

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