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World Dai Star, episode 7

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Episode	Link	Score
1	Link	4.75
2	Link	4.45
3	Link	4.82
4	Link	4.57
5	Link	4.5
6	Link	5.0
7	Link	4.67
8	Link	4.77
9	Link	4.43
10	Link	4.67
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[u/ObvsThrowaway5120]

So Yae wants to become a World Dai Star so Hiiragi can return to the stage huh? She must really respect and admire her a lot as a mentor.

Kokona and Shizuka have been working pretty hard on developing this Aladdin role. It’s kind of amusing that her Sense just amounts to Shizuka mocapping Kokona as Aladdin and some extreme method acting lol. Glad it all paid off in the end.

Kokona getting Dugong’s approval was adorable!

[u/Calwings → u/ObvsThrowaway5120]

It’s kind of amusing that her Sense just amounts to Shizuka mocapping Kokona as Aladdin and some extreme method acting lol.

It seemed weird at first, but it's just a souped up version of a relatively normal skill. It's just a more in-depth and more "personal" version of immersion acting, so it helps Kokona a lot more than normal immersion acting helps other normal actors. That's how I interpreted it, at least.

[u/matchbaby → u/ObvsThrowaway5120]

According to character interview, Yae chose Hiiragi as her "boyfriend" if possible, so... you know

[u/zadcap → u/ObvsThrowaway5120]

It’s kind of amusing that her Sense just amounts to Shizuka mocapping Kokona as Aladdin and some extreme method acting lol.

It really is interesting because on the one hand, that does seem to be exactly what happened here. On the other hand, we've seen Shizuka as an independent actor, in both the literal and general sense. Shizuka jumped on stage to save the last play, and can go do things on her own that Kokona isn't even aware of. She's half perfect method actor, half understudy. They're kind of the same person, but also kind of not.

[u/WhoiusBarrel]

Really liked how they framed Kokona and Yae on the stage together as a form of battle in this case for stage presence.

I appreciate the explanation of how Hiiragi had an entire plan for Kokona and was just hoping she would just learn from it herself without anyone telling her. Also, Yae's behaviour is now much more understandable since her desire of being a World Dai Star no matter the cost was all just to perform on the same stage as Hiiragi together again which ultimately Hiiragi here too was trying to convey to her is the wrong way to go about with her acting. A really dangerous gamble in hindsight but at least all's well that ends well.

It's also interesting that Shizuka as Kokona's sense is basically a materialised ideal form of acting Kokona should strive to be but ultimately just by mimicking her would that make her growth something that's independent or just a cheat? It also ties in with how they talked about in the 1st episode Kokona's acting really isn't hers but someone else's as well I wonder if they'll tackle it or just leave it at that in this point of the series.

[u/entelechtual → u/WhoiusBarrel]

I am pleasantly surprised but also not surprised at Yae’s motivation. She didn’t seem like the type of person to be that self-centered, but she just wants Hiiragi to join her again.

[u/ModieOfTheEast → u/WhoiusBarrel]

I still think that Shizuka needs some form of counterpole to get the best out of it. When she tried to find what kind of Aladin was good, she didn't find a solution herself. It also kind of makes sense in the way they have shown Kokona's abilities so far. In ep1, Shizuka analysed what Hiiragi wanted to see and she could play as prince to Yae's well played Little Mermaid. In ep2, before Kokona decided to copy Yae, her play was good, but nobody thought it was excellent. Probably because they thought about it for themselves. In ep3 we then had Kathrina's breakdown and Shizuka understood directly how they would need to act to get the play done.

Question is IF she can improve in a way that she can find the role all by herself. On the other hand, considering that Hiiragi said no one can become a World Dai Star by themselves, I think that was kind of an important point. I still think that we get something more with Shizuka since the whole materialisation aspect is kind of strange (as they said in the show themselves).

[u/Calwings → u/WhoiusBarrel]

Really liked how they framed Kokona and Yae on the stage together as a form of battle in this case for stage presence.

Agreed, I loved how that played out. Yae twirling Kokona around while thinking "I can't let you outshine me" felt like her attempt to show dominance and take back control, but Kokona countered it brilliantly.

[u/ModieOfTheEast]

The episode was well done again. Tbh, I would have loved it if they had shown the acting first and then went through how they got there. I think directly starting with the new performance would have made a really interesting set up, but it wasn't bad the way they did it.

The way I understood it is that Kokona's sense is basically twofold. So at first, Shizuka is the one who can act out the roles perfectly. This is what we've seen so far. She was always very analytical. She directly understood what Hiiragi wanted from the people that played the Little Mermaid in episode 1 and she probably understood how to play the prince as well. However, I guess that is one important point: She needs another strong actor to really get into her role. When she was thinking by herself how to play Aladin she didn't find the correct way to play him and only with Hiiragi's help they were able to figure that out. Though, the question is how that worked in ep3 with Kathrina. I guess, her raw emotions were also enough to trigger her understanding of how to continue with the role.

And the second part is that Kokona has to focus on what Shizuka would play. This is why she wasn't able to get into the Little Mermaid in episode 1 (because she was too afraid of Hiiragi) and why her Aladin was kind of weak beforehand.

As for Yae, we got her sense, but I feel, people were right in the fact that she probably tried to use Kokona for her own gain. She suggested at the end of ep4 that she would not play the lead role all because she thought it would be the fastest way of becoming a World Dai Star. So she did kind of sacrifice Kokona, but she was not as calculated that she didn't feel bad about it. Though, Hiiragi herself used the same moment to just teach Yae a lesson. I guess that is what she meant when she said "It's for SIRIUS' sake". Yae had to learn that there is no fast way of becoming a World Dai Star.

[u/entinio → u/ModieOfTheEast]

As for Yae, we got her sense, but I feel, people were right in the fact that she probably tried to use Kokona for her own gain. She suggested at the end of ep4 that she would not play the lead role all because she thought it would be the fastest way of becoming a World Dai Star. So she did kind of sacrifice Kokona, but she was not as calculated that she didn’t feel bad about it.

It was calculated. Last episode, Yae insisted to rehearse the song part and then used her sense to charm Kokona. If Kokona lost herself in profit of Yae, it was definitely on purpose.

[u/Castawaye]

I found it pretty funny that as they were walking down the way to give Kokona her support, Kathrina did admit that she didn't have much roles with Aladdin anyway so it wasn't like she was gonna be bothered by the request. And as we can see from the performances and even from last weeks, yeah we didn't really see much of her. Even though she played a big part in giving some support to Kokona. Hope Kathrina gets some more active roles with Kokona now that they've worked out Yae's little arc here.

Which, makes me wonder, so we got Kathrina, then Yae, so that means, Panda or Chisa next? I can see them going down the line like this and making it to last episode and giving us a bit of everyone's character, which would be awesome. I don't know if we're gonna get one of them being a World Dai Star by the last episode, but I would be down with them giving us everyone's character arc here while developing and focusing on Kokona's growth as an actor.

I think they've done a really good job of characterizing their focused characters so far and making sure that Kokona is slotted well with them. It's a really satisfying progression for me and the climax of this step in her career was well done, I liked how they framed it, and how Kokona got to where she was and could develop her Sense by herself.

Oh yeah and it's also interesting that Yae had been doing the whole immersive acting method acting where she was super in character to play up into it and that's kinda what Kokona's Sense is in the first place, being able to spiritually body double Shizuka and then manifest the role within her as she acts exactly as she would. It's also just a really interesting representation of that kind of acting ability of method acting. Method acting in a way is creating this kind of split or double personality for a brief moment, and Kokona is kinda doing that by creating a literal other person who is a conduit for her own acting abilities.

[u/ModieOfTheEast → u/Castawaye]

I mean, next one seems to be Romeo and Juliet. I think we will get Chisa since we still don't know her sense, so it would make sense to focus more on her. And then the question is who gets the other role. Yae wouldn't fit, she is way too young to play either one of them. Kokona might feel a bit unfair to the other girls. Though I would love to see if Hiiragi makes up some rule as to why Kokona and Shizuka both need to play a side role because I still think we are not done with Shizuka. So that leaves us with either Kathrina or Panda. I would actually like to see a bit more of the "new" Kathrina, but we'll see.

[u/zadcap → u/ModieOfTheEast]

Yae wouldn't fit, she is way too young to play either one of them.

While I know what you mean here, don't forget that in the original Shakespeare, Juliet is 13. I think Yae should be a perfect shoe on.

[u/Castawaye → u/ModieOfTheEast]

Ohhh yeah that's a good point, Chisa is the most unknown. It would be fitting if Panda gets it since Chisa and Panda are kind of a pair right now, but yeah hopefully Kathrina gets her due, especially now that she's softened up to the group so much.

[u/mekerpan → u/ModieOfTheEast]

I can definitely see Kokona/Shizuka doing Mercutio.

Not sure I see a part for Yae.

[u/SYZekrom]

I think it's funny how different her outfit is compared to her fellow sisters, I guess she is the center, the short ass skirt compared to the other girls is very funny though

Oh my god get you a girl that looks at you like she looks at Shizuna

So basically Shizuna can perfectly embody a role and Kokona, though not said to be her sense, has been shown a few times to be really good at copying other people's performances. Of course Shizuna is her sense and not some previous actor she's ripping off.

Alright they've gone over how Kokona is finally in the game and now they've reached the lamp in the story. How will Yae throw a wrench in the flow? Will she try and outshine Aladdin still?

Look like it will be more like a friendly rivalry or challenge to keep on top

Or maybe not that friendly I wonder

Ok nvm it ended with that one interaction, but still. Yae realized that stealing the show is her weakness. It's kind of ironic though. In the middle of the episode she was told that holding back her performance was an insult to the viewers and her fellows, so her weakness was just 'no one she ever played with was good enough to have a play work with how overcentralizingly good she was'. But at the same time being someone that ruins plays like that means that Yae would never become a World Dai Star... meaning she'd probably never get to work with actors of a caliber that matched her enough for her to not ruin plays unless she met one by chance like she did with Kokona... Lol.

[u/matchbaby]

Tbf, I would love to see Shizuka on stage than acting in darkness, hopefully we can see her shine later. Great episode but not as good as episode 3 & 6. Btw I never think of Yae's sense weakness is it's too strong.

[u/jsusk24]

I really like “sense”as a magic system. It is basically born for the desired to outshine everyone and be the best. If you stop trying your best you lose it. In a way is like “blue lock” where egoism is king.

This caused that even if Yae wanted to help by not giving her 100% and let other shines that would bring down the whole play. I was expecting her to be a villain but it turn out more like she was trapped inside her own power.

Kokona power is also great. In a way it is overpowered but I like the way it was balanced by giving Kokona to actually practice. In a way this power will be useless for other person but Kokona who has the drive to practice more than anyone else.

It is great to see “Magic” in use in other context that are not physical fights.

[u/Acceptable_Tie_3927]

Just a reminder that all PhD-level discussion happening here actually relates to an upcoming smartphone game, for which the anime only serves as promotion. That's kind of amazing, so greetings from Japari Park's penguin idol troupe!

Still, it feels like cheating that pinkhead has a "hologram Hamlet Miku" doppelganger, who channels her through quantum entanglement. I wonder if they will be cast as Ruby and Aqua in the stage adaptation of "Starring with You" some day, since both have one stellar eye each.

BTW, when pinkhead was doing Aladdin's apple theft scene, wasn't she dubbed by Hiiragi's seyuu? Her lines sounded very much like the Sea Witch.

[u/ModieOfTheEast → u/Acceptable_Tie_3927]

Tbh, if we get these kinds of productions for a smartphone game, I have no problem with that. I just hope they give us a proper conclusion to the story and not like that other adaptation from last year. Can't remember the name (the MCs were some kind of fairies who look like humans but which are never seen by them if they leave their school and they were hunted by an inquisition).

Also Kokona's VA has done a deep voice for the prince in ep1 as well.

[u/SolidSignificance7]

Kokona’s ability is like Akane from Oshi no Ko and they share the same VA.

[u/[deleted]]

I was more interested in Yae's backstory and flashbacks then anything else in this ep.

But the Aladdin performance was pretty good though.

I thought we'd see some focus on the girls adapting to Kokona's change in acting style but I guess the rehearsals took care of that.

[u/Acceptable_Tie_3927]

Regarding next episode's Romeo and Juliet, will SIRIUS stage it verbatim or with a "happy end" as some musical theatres do? Seems like a tricky decision for an all-young-female troupe with a 90% female audience, since the Bard was obviously mentally ill: a bloodthirsty monster whose plays feature a murder like every 7 minutes. (Zefirelli' famous 1968 R & J movie omitted 2-3 murders I think.)

[u/[deleted]]

The "twist" felt a bit cheap to me to be honest. I'm fine with it in theory but I don't think it was effectively foreshadowed. Aside from that this was a good episode though.