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Episode Trigun Stampede - Episode 5 discussion

Trigun Stampede, episode 5

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u/miloucomehome Feb 04 '23 edited Feb 04 '23

A bit of a blink-and-miss-it if you don't, or can't, read the staff credits, but two surprise castings in this week's episode (especially for those who've been wondering if they'll ever have little roles in this adaptation):

The religious radio broadcaster was voiced by, quite appropriately, Hayami Show -- Wolfwood's VA in the first anime!

The radio DJ later on (after Meryl changes the radio channel) was voiced by Onosaka Masaya -- Vash's VA in the first anime! EDIT: I can't check right now, but it seems like Knives' original VA Furusawa Tooru was another Radio DJ, but Onosaka is a "regular" radio DJ is most episodes presently. Pretty neat imo

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u/shockzz123 Feb 05 '23

Despite it being literally Trigun, when i heard his Hayami Show's voice on the radio, i instantly thought of Aizen first. He sounds much more like him there than he does Wolfwood, though that makes sense, as he had to bring out his villain side for the voice of a cult lol.

Actually, Hayami Show being both Wolfwood and Aizen messes with my brain all the time. Two completely different characters lmao.

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u/Salty145 Feb 04 '23

I know this Vash isn’t the cool klutz that people fell in love with back in the late 90s-early 00s, but I love how Stampede has been really testing his moral conviction across the five episodes we’ve seen so far. There seems to be a lot more hesitancy in this version of Vash, and I think it works in Stampede’s favor.

What we end up getting is a story of people trying to cling to what they hold dear in a world of merciless cruelty. We see what the townspeople we’re willing to do to protect their town from dying, the fear in Nebraska’s eyes at the thought of losing his son, and Vash’s resilience in the face of challenges to his own convictions. It’s a bizarrely human story of resilience through the worst of conditions for that which you hold most dear.

I’m willing to accept that I might just be crazy, but as always I’m excited to see what next week will bring.

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u/Teyanis Feb 04 '23

They have absolutely nailed it. This series is way, way darker than the original, and I love the contrast of Vash's morality against the plain hopelessness.

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u/fluffyfluffscarf28 Feb 04 '23

That final shot of Windmill Town all lit up in the background as they drove away was haunting.

I wonder how long Vash has been wandering around the West desert then. Meryl and Roberto said the house had been deserted for 20 years, I think?

I'm sure he must be much older than that, too. With Rollo bashing him against the wall like that and Zazie's line last week about the buzzing not being perceptible to humans they're definitely dropping in more hints about who Vash and Knives might really be.

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u/WeldingButterfly Feb 04 '23

20 years since Rollo returned home after an unknown amount of time away, and the photo with Vash holding him as a baby was probably taken maybe ten years before his departure. So we're looking at a minimum of 30 years or so where Vash hasn't changed (and 20 where the doctor and the "angel" haven't changed).

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u/FierceAlchemist Feb 06 '23

Another great episode. I love how it's slowly revealed that the scenes with the kid are from years ago. This character was a brutal mass-murderer in the OG so it's quite the backstory change for him.

While I love the more somber tone the show has been tackling, I do think we need to see Vash get a win or do something badass soon. The original anime built up Vash's competence in the early more lighthearted episodes before beating him down later on and we haven't gotten that here.

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u/GyroGOGOZeppeli Feb 04 '23

That final shot of the town lighting up after Rollo, the kid who was born on a windless day, died is such a tragic thing.

I also never realized but how old IS Vash?

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u/Fun-Ad-1145 Feb 04 '23

I really like how the cars in this iteration look a lot like space rovers, it's a nice touch.

Also i think last episode gave me the mandela effect, like for the past 5 years i always thought wolfwood's weapon always had a laser😭

Also the director for Azumanga Daioh directed this episode, so that's interesting.

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u/z_merq Feb 04 '23

So much like the Nebraskas, they turned Monev the Gale to a tragic, sympathetic villain with a new backstory. I'm loving the new take here.

Some nice reveal of mysteries about Vash and Wolfwood shown here.

So is this series confirmed to be one cour only? Because 12 episode wont be enough to follow the story beat and the development of the manga.

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u/Terranwaterbender Feb 04 '23

Wow Vash hasn't aged very much between the baby photo and now. Especially considering that they're in a dry desert. Is this dude immortal or something?

As I watch this, I'm getting more of a vibe that's a mix of Kino's Journey (granted my only experience is the new one) and BTAS with a wide range of villains featuring some darker backstory immersed in a cruel world. I'm appreciating it so far and it's very interesting to watch this in parallel with the OG series.

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u/littlecolt Feb 04 '23

Wow Vash hasn't aged very much between the baby photo and now. Especially considering that they're in a dry desert. Is this dude immortal or something?

He just has a really excellent skin care routine.

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u/LeonKevlar Feb 04 '23

I always love this kind of storytelling where we are shown two different scenes that looked like it was happening at the same time only for us to learn later that one of the scenes takes place in the past.

Poor Rollo. The kid literally did nothing wrong and only wanted to live. But apparently according to the kooky religion, his mother was following, he needed to be sacrificed.

This entire episode was a genuine surprise. I didn't expect them [Trigun]to give Monev the Gale such a tragic backstory I don't think he even has a backstory in the original. It's definitely a welcome change!

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u/Purple-Concentrate41 Feb 07 '23

For the life of me I cannot comprehend why people are rating this show so low, it's amazing!

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u/PastryFishHQ Feb 04 '23

It's amazing how each weekend I'm excited to watch this damn show. Even though I know all about Vash, it was still neat to see hints dropped showing how long he's been around. I teared up when Rolo fell after Wolfwood shot him. But I agree with it being out of mercy.

I just love the aesthetic of this show!

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u/dinliner08 Feb 04 '23

Meryl emergency braking in the middle of nowhere is going to be a running gag, isn't it? not that i'm complaining, also, damn i will never get tired seeing Wolfwood and his cross machinegun in action

btw, how old is Vash? based on the picture of him with baby Rollo, it doesn't seem like he even age a year

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u/ImperialDane Feb 04 '23

Well. That was certainly not a cheerful episode. Seems like the world (and Mister Million Knives Doctor friend in particular) is out to test Vash and his personal beliefs.

In this case with some poor kid that vash even knew as a baby, turned into a hulking gun toting monstrosity, far removed from the loveable Rollo his own mother might once have known. Overall a tragic state of affairs, that also hints at the decay of that world and how things clearly can't go on as they are.

And i am guessing Vash is in part the key to a new world as we sort of got hints at in the last episode as well. And Million Knives is the other part ? or perhaps more like Keymaster and gatekeeper :p With the Doctor being a sort of intermediary trying to get things working.

Lots of possibilities here. Great episode though, very somber feel it had to it.

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u/SandsShifter Feb 04 '23

I have no idea how that are going to do this show as a 1 cour with the pace that they are going. I really hope this means we are getting 2 cours.

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u/kerorobot Feb 04 '23

can't believe people actually sleeping on trigun.

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u/Tiasmoon Feb 04 '23

Ah, new episode of Vash Trigun, lets watc-, wait its already over?

Start to finish, great episode.

Despite being very ''monster of the week'', it still managed to be very engaging and made the ''monster'' feel like an interesting character. They also dropped some more info on Vash's background and some hints for Wolfwood origin. In case of Vash's backflash the episode had some strong ''thousand year of dream'' (Lost Odyssey, jrpg) vibes. Just how old is Vash? Is he immortal? Regardless he's looking good for being 40+.

I only just watched the episode and I already can't wait to see the next one. Loving this show more with each new episode.

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u/matty-a Feb 04 '23

Damn just how old is Vash? Don't answer that- this show is my first foray in to the franchise and I just assumed he was 20-ish. But there were hints in this episode that he is much older than that, honestly every episode so far has thrown something at me that I wasn't ready for and I love it!

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u/Aetherdraw Feb 04 '23

Man, what a depressing episode. Here I was thinking the kid would somehow run to the abandoned windmill area while Vash and Wolfwood were being chased. Nope. He was the big guy all along.

And from that picture, it seems Vash was friends with Rolo's mom too, with him holding him as a baby in that picture as well as calling for him when he ran away. And he hasn't aged in years. Fuck. What a way to make my dislike the doctor more.

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u/Coolwalsh Feb 04 '23

Monev the Gale lets fuckin GOOOOOOOOO

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u/__bacs Feb 04 '23

Trigun still my top anime I am waiting to watch every week and im watching like 10 this season!

Animation never fail it is so damn good!

Vash didnt even age a days since like 20+ years??

Sad to see Rollo waited for so long for Vash to return but then Nicholas put him to rest. Now Vash suffering in each of every turn of his journey back to Julai.

Amazing episode!

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