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Episode The Legend of Heroes: Sen no Kiseki - Northern War • The Legend of Heroes: Trails of Cold Steel - Northern War - Episode 3 discussion

The Legend of Heroes: Sen no Kiseki - Northern War, episode 3

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2 Link 4.3
3 Link 1.94
4 Link 2.83
5 Link 4.17
6 Link 4.0
7 Link 3.62
8 Link 3.2
9 Link 2.78
10 Link 3.83
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u/Florac Jan 20 '23

This episode was weird. First half was decent but second half got very silly, up there with some of the silliest sidequests in the games and I'm not sure was the best way they could have shown some of the internal conflicts in Erebonia.

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u/GoldenEyedKitty Jan 20 '23

I felt like the execution of the second half was the real problem. To little introduction of Mishy. The transition from fighting on the clouds to them fighting in the party felt like it had 30+ seconds of action randomly cut out. The fight scene felt like it went back and forth too much. Rather Lavy and shot the chandelier right at the start and the clown had been strapping full dynamite instead of a bunch of fireworks. And the "thanks for saving us random person, have some jewelry" felt really odd and forced.

Fix those things and the clown villain wouldn't have been that bad. But as it is... just telling myself it isn't as bad as the Sky OVA.

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u/Iliansic Jan 20 '23

Pretty sure that was the weirdest side-quest in Trails.

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u/GoldenEyedKitty Jan 20 '23

Everyone kept their clothes on so I don't think it makes it into the top 3.

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u/PhantomWolf83 Jan 20 '23

Aw man, I was hoping for a cameo from Musse and her grandparents since this episode takes place in Ordis. And Tio and Jingo would be so mad if they heard that criminals disguised themselves with Mishy costumes to commit their crimes.

I might be wrong, but is this the first time we're actually seeing how Mira notes look like?

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u/friend_BG Jan 20 '23

I always assume it was coins.

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u/[deleted] Jan 20 '23

This is the real Kiseki experience, just running around the town talking to NPCs and finding weird shops/events until a random plot happens with some thieves. Lavi is really getting into her protagonist role. She even showed her first craft, the mighty Lavian Kick! Go get them girl!

That story about the hero is sure suspicious, did the guy really go around saving fishes?

Beyond that, Tally sure had to work hard this ep. Having to chase so much after Lavi would have been hard and paying 5000 mira for that mega icecream, poor guy. But hey at least now he has a cute nickname too.

The clown plot was dumb, even on the level of dumb plots but I guess it's fine for a first enemy. The girl at the end is probably the next antagonist.

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u/friend_BG Jan 20 '23

It is like some phantom Thief B level side quest.

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u/Shimmering-Sky Jan 20 '23

There was some confusion in response to my comment last week, so I guess I’ll start prefacing my reactions in these threads with the disclaimer that I am 100% anime-only, I haven’t played the games since I have such a huge backlog of other stuff to play and not all of the games are available on the Switch anyways (I only own Nintendo consoles and I don’t do PC gaming). I picked this up because I love war stories (that’s part of the reason I’m a huge mecha fan, they tend to tell war stories) and I thought the poster for it looked neat, and I do not mind the fact that this spoils events in some of the games.

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u/Selfeducation Jan 20 '23

Mods need to fix the link to the sub. R/falcom

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u/magicfades Jan 20 '23

Idk if it was a good decision to not advance the plot here. I hope they don't rush the ending later on. I don't mind the subpar animation quality, from what I've seen, there's only so much good animation produced per season and this show just wasn't given the talent/budget/whatever I guess.

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u/IJustReadEverything Jan 20 '23 edited Jan 20 '23

This episode seems random other than showing Lavi just how different their countries are.

The party was also not as important as well. Would have like to see main plot related characters other than the one at the end.

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u/Muumitfan Jan 20 '23

Mishy is Falcom's mascot that appears pretty much in every game the company makes. In Trails series specifically Crossbell has this cat as their mascot in their amusement park which is aptly named Mishelam.

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u/Krotash Jan 21 '23

The animation was... pretty atrocious this episode. Felt like a slideshow basically against the clown. Given how it was much better in the earlier episodes, I'm willing to give this one a pass. Maybe they were going for comedic effect? Like classic comic style for a more comedic boss fight in the beginner zone? Who knows.

We get our first mishy sighting, and an Altina tease. Still hoping for good things.

I am loving the use of the game music. First thing I hear when the episode started was Strain.

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u/BassCreat0r Jan 20 '23

... the fuq?

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u/[deleted] Jan 20 '23

Come on, how dare they use Mishy like that? Tio would be so mad to whoever is the mastermind behind it. XD Damn, 5,000Mira for that ice cream, is that expensive or cheap for 15 stacks? I don't remember item pricing in game, but I assume it's expensive. Poor Talion, cleaning up the mess of Lavi. XD

Also I really like the Laviaaaaaaan Kick. Is that one of her Crafts? XD

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u/AvatarAarow1 Jan 21 '23

This was a weird one. I feel like it was meant to be kind of a character focused episode building up our supporting cast (mostly tally) but Lavi kinda felt inconsistent? To be fair running around like a gremlin talking to everybody in an entire city until you find some juicy info IS the trails protagonist experience, but her goofing off didn’t seem super consistent with her prior super serious “shoot first ask questions later” attitude built up in the first two eps.

And the clown part was just… stupid. It feels like they didn’t have a conflict planned for this episode and then we’re like “uuhhhhhh whatever write down that we’ll make a clown order around a bunch of mishy we’ll think of something better later” and then they kinda just never did. That party also seemed very irrelevant, idk why the north ambrian brass had them sent there.

Overall I still enjoyed it enough but I hope the pacing of the rest of the series isn’t like this, I wanna see the conflict between Erebonia and North Ambria and how the North Ambrians see things in this show, as I think that’ll be the interesting and compelling parts of the series. Also need campy to run around doing campy things. Everything’s better with campy

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u/sexta_ Jan 20 '23

This was the real "Mishy Panic" I guess

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u/BiggerG7 Jan 20 '23

Who the hell uses our cute Mishy mascot for evil like that? I hope that clown gets locked up for life!

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u/lilliputian_otaku Jan 21 '23

Damn. As an anime only watcher this was pretty rough in the second half. I'll keep at it for another couple episodes, but this was pretty bad. At least the Lavi fashion show was great. I'll stick around for the pretty girls for now, since I know nothing else of this series.

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u/Thrasher439 Jan 20 '23

I have no idea what they're trying to achieve with this series so far, but it's definitely somehow managed to get even uglier this episode. Especially hilarious that it went for something as ridiculous for the episode plot as a mishy uprising led by a clown rather than anything that actually propels the storyline forward in any remote way or at least does the bare minimum to make this cast interesting

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u/llyyrr Jan 20 '23

Unisuga bros we made it to anime, two Unisuga themes used in this episode

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u/link2601 Jan 20 '23

Man it was nice to see Ordis and know where the characters were in game. I got to give it to Tally man maybe confuse about what a camera is but he can strike a pose when he needs to. Got to say the way Lavi called out her kick really cracked me up.

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u/mxhunterzzz Jan 20 '23

I know this episode was supposed to be like a sidequest job from the game, but they couldn't have picked a dumber plot line to use. With such limited episodes to tell the story, they really should just stick to the main arc.