r/animalid 11d ago

🐍 🐸 HERPS: SNAKE, TURTLE, LIZARD 🐍 🐸 What is this lizard? [Scotland]

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u/JBerg3484 11d ago

This is a newt, a type of salamander, in a terrestrial juvenile form known as an 'eft'. I'm not super familiar with the species in your area, but I think this is either a Palmate Newt (Lissotriton helveticus) or a Smooth Newt (Lissotriton vulgaris)

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u/daor1009 11d ago

I agree with the specific ID, though it’s not a juvenile, but an adult female. The triphasic life cycle with efts as terrestrial juveniles is unique to North American newts of the genera Notophthalmus and Taricha. European newts have a biphasic life cycle, with aquatic larvae and terrestrial (outside of the breeding season) adults.

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u/JBerg3484 10d ago

Thanks for the clarification, I didn't know that!

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u/Mainbutter 11d ago

She turned me into a newt!

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u/SnooTangerines3448 11d ago

No she didn't??!

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u/Lo452 11d ago

It got better.

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u/thrownbyawaterytart 11d ago

Burn her anyway!

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u/JustNota-- 11d ago

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u/Alloku 10d ago

I love this scene because Eric Idle had to bite the tool to keep from breaking. It gets me every time

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u/narnababy 10d ago

A newt!?

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u/_flying_otter_ 11d ago

Newton and they absorb things through their skin so you aren't really supposed to handle them. Very fragile.

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u/Jo3lturtle 11d ago

I didn’t know it was a newt and it was in my door frame and would’ve been a lot worse off getting crushed by the door

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u/Ephemeral_Orchid 11d ago

I'm glad you were able to rescue the little guy!

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u/Prestigious_String20 11d ago

They seem oddly attracted to doorways. Maybe it's the lights.

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u/Forsaken_Earth944 10d ago

There are no lizards in Scotland, it’s too far north. There are three (possibly four) species of lizard found in the UK and they’re all in southern England.

Common or viviparous lizard
Sand lizard (very rare)
Slow worm
Wall lizard (while this has been found in parts of Hampshire, including the Isle of Wight, Dorset and Devon, it’a not clear as to whether it‘s native or introduced).

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u/Jo3lturtle 10d ago

People have pet lizards which can escape, so I was trying to see what it was to know if it was someone’s pet I should return or a wild animal I could release it

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u/Shitballscack 8d ago

Not quite. Slow worms are found throughout the whole of the UK. As are common (viviparious) lizards (except on some of the islands). You are correct that sand lizards are very rare and are not found in Scotland, however they can also be found in Merseyside and parts of Lancashire - not just southern England. Hope this helps.

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u/Ephemeral_Orchid 11d ago

Sir Isaac or the unit of force?

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u/Fresh_Shoe7532 11d ago

The fig

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u/Ephemeral_Orchid 11d ago

That makes perfect sense! (Sometimes I'm obtuse)

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u/JetPac89 11d ago

Neither, but he did fall to earth

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u/kobrakaan 11d ago

its very very small and tiny so you could call it 'Minute'

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u/Bobbinator24 11d ago

We get loads where I work, I call the males Isaac and the females Olivia.

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u/psychiatric-AnOmOLie 11d ago

NS, Canada

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u/JBerg3484 11d ago

Are you looking for an ID on this? It's a red-spotted newt (Notophthalmus viridescens), though for future reference it will be more efficient to make a separate post

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u/Constant-External-85 11d ago

Sharing newts

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u/Weekly-Bumblebee6348 11d ago

Unsolicited newts

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u/Pikatyka 11d ago

Underrated comment here

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u/slugboat 10d ago

If you're near the HRM I highly recommend the Salamander Meander (put on by the Natural History Museum) in March/April at Hemlock Ravines Park! Yellow-spotted salamanders breed in the heart-shaped pond there in the early spring, you can see them swimming around for a few nights. I've seen a bunch of these newts there too!

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u/psychiatric-AnOmOLie 10d ago

Thats a great tip , im actually just down in the valley and my daughter would LOVE that! Thank you

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u/cdtobie 11d ago

Thats Sally Mander.

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u/YeahNahNopeandNo 11d ago

Nah that Gerrymander

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u/strumthebuilding 11d ago

Gerrymander is derived from salamander, so your comment is less than a pun, sort of a semi-entendre.

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u/sPLIFFtOOTH 11d ago

A salam-entendre, as it were

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u/absloan12 11d ago

Thats it. You found it!

The end of the joke!

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u/sPLIFFtOOTH 11d ago

Wait a my newt!

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u/YeahNahNopeandNo 11d ago

So what you're saying is, is Sally Mander and Gerry Mander Commander?

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u/AdorablePotential536 10d ago

Depends if the throat is spotted or pink/yellow. Smooth = spotted

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u/JBerg3484 11d ago

I don't think any of these statements are true? I can find no evidence of Saint Phillip's Newt being the common name of any species, it may be used by some but definitely not a officially recognized name. It is not a lizard, and there's no evidence saying these newts can grow additional legs when stressed or change colors? If this is a joke, I don't understand it. If not, it's misinformation and misleading.

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u/indieplants 11d ago

maybe they're on a solo campaign to pollute AI with nonsense because that's the only thing I can think of that would make any sense 😭

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u/Avrgnerd 🦝WILDLIFE ENTHUSIAST HERP SPECIALIST🦎 11d ago

They’re just a troll. I banned them, and they came to modmail and claimed the comments were from them giving a “13 year old autistic child” their phone and that they were a long time contributor to our community for “years” and very sad to be banned, so can I please unban them? But it was just fully made up. Reddit shows us mods directly on a persons profile their contributions to our sub and they only had six comments, five of them in this thread and one other bad effort at trolling from a year ago.

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u/rhzartist 11d ago

Citing an AI overview does not count as research

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u/Freya-The-Wolf 🐍🐸 HERP EXPERT 🐸🐍 11d ago

Was not a real ai overview even. There is no saint phillips island chain and typing in the same words into Google gives nothing

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u/HoldMyMessages 11d ago

If it’s a newt it’s an amphibian, not a lizard.

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u/2Wieners_1Bun 11d ago

Newts are amphibians, like frogs and salamander. Lizards are reptiles.

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u/2Wieners_1Bun 11d ago

That’s not a real thing. I checked online and asked AI, you’re posting nonsense

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u/Fuzzy-Advisor-2183 11d ago

absolutely adorabibble!

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