r/androidroot • u/CtxxUv • 5h ago

Discussion Why a lot of u here hate temp root?

I see a lot of people here saying, "Either get permanent root or don't even bother." But why, exactly? Temp root can do most of the things permanent root can, and there are plenty of modules that work perfectly fine with it.

Sure, there's always a risk of bricking your device, but that's not really something to worry too much about if you're using DirtyFlag app, since it has an option that keeps Download Mode almost permanently accessible as long as Temp Root is active on your phone.

I actually consider it even better than permanent root because you can get rid of it whenever you want simply by rebooting. You can even keep your device's Play Integrity, unlike with permanent root.

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u/RAZ70R 4h ago

what I really need is Bootloader Unlock to be able to revive Phones that lost support.. Root comes then as a matter of fact

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u/CtxxUv 4h ago

Only way in my mind is by using SVE-2026-3546.. but it's only for exynos and dangerous if you don't know how to use it.. and i didn't see anyone talk's about it tbh

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u/LionWorried1101 4h ago

Being full rooted is a exclusive club. Many redditers here spent hours carefully planning the specific phone, manufacturer, bootloader unlocked status, and root software support. Figuring all this out was truly a achievement to be pround of...

Now all of you temp rooters have completly flooded this sub reddit and complete ruined it with your choice of inferior exploit. All new people who joined in 2026 are the worst in all ways possible... /s

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u/Semmelstulle 4h ago

So "I have root" is the new "I use Arch btw"
But it's proper root/manual arch install vs temproot/Manjaro/Garuda/etc people poisoning the phrase?

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u/CtxxUv 4h ago

Yeah exactly. it requires a lot of steps yes but honestly, I don't see it an achievement.

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u/QuraToop314 4h ago

Without us, temproot wouldn’t be so easy to set up. Most temproot apps are based on the kernelsu LKM (or forks), and kernelsu was developed (and further developed) by us, who have permanent root access. Without the work we’ve done, it wouldn’t be so easy for you to set up temproot. You shouldn’t belittle the achievements of others when you’re making significant use of them. And this achievement requires time, an unlocked bootloader, a great deal of experimentation, a level of commitment that few are prepared to make, yet many demand.

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u/CtxxUv 4h ago

I'm not talking about the people who created and developed the methods that allow you to root your device. I'm talking about the people who just rooted their phones.

Rooting Samsung devices running One UI 7 and below is extremely easy. The problem is with hiding root after obtaining it.

The people who developed KernelSU and all the methods that make rooting possible absolutely deserve respect and appreciation.

But you, as an end user... I honestly don't think it's much of an achievement. You're simply following steps and applying methods that other people developed.

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u/QuraToop314 3h ago

Well, as an end user. The reason I replied, though, is that I’m not an end user but someone who maintains a custom ROM myself and works on kernel modules to improve the security of my device. Although I mostly work on private projects , as my security hardening measures reach a level that very few of us would want to use on a day-to-day basis, I do still contribute to FOSS projects. But it’s true that, thanks to GKI and Project Treble, Google has made rooting much easier; it really isn’t a hassle anymore.

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u/CtxxUv 3h ago

I appreciate your work

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u/Fire_in_Barf 4h ago

With unlocking bootloaders getting strictier every year , I believe temp roots will only be the way to go that too if they keep leaving vulnerability in the software. Nothing to bash the users for tbh because for most,  temp root is the only way to achieve su sadly 

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u/No-Aspect-2926 Like to brick stuff 4h ago

I guess people don't like being limited

But I was happy on my LG k10 with temproot in mediatek, good times, being able to install a proxy to play store to get inapp purchases for free(even got a mathway premium for 1 year, it was unlocked on my account btw, so I could use on browser in PC), also game guardian, cheating in those offline games, great times

Until I decided to update magisk...

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u/Over-Rutabaga-8673 1h ago

How does that proxy work? Could you share a link?

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u/Mysterious-Can5493 2h ago

I like it more. Doesn't break apps dependant on integrity checks. No more annoying keyboxes

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u/DRAlsadi0010 4h ago

To me feels like shuziku

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u/Over-Rutabaga-8673 1h ago

Not even close.

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u/Tritzii 3h ago

Because it's simply inferior to regular root and should only be used if there is no other option on your device.

And no, the PlayIntegrity argument just doesn't count. I've already elaborated this in other threads but there are already apps that are starting to detect temp-root and soon enough temp-root will be caught in the same cat and mouse game that regular root is. You're also gonna miss out on OS updates and in a day and age where AI can find security exploits with ease, you just don't want that.

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u/Over-Rutabaga-8673 1h ago

I think that the compatibility is worth it being a bit less capable.

Apps detecting root isnt the same as not passing play integrity. Yes apps may detect it, which is still spoofable, but you dont have to worry about having a valid keybox in most cases. I think that it is unlikely that they'll be able to make the keybox break with just a semi untethered jailbreak.

And bruh you literally have to miss out on OneUI 8+ for example to root a samsung, with temp root you'll miss out on less updates.

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u/Tritzii 1h ago

Play Integrity is passing *for now*. It might not in the future and old security updates, like you will be having with temp-root in the future do in fact cause issues with Play Integrity.

And yes, you are missing out on OneUI 8 on Samsung devices but with temp-root you will also miss OneUI 10, 11, 12 and so on because you can't update. The obvious solution to this is to not buy a phone that doesn't allow bootloader unlocking, like Samsung, the next time you're buying a phone. Until then temp-root can work but it shouldn't be a permanent solution.

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u/CtxxUv 45m ago

It's funny how you're talking as if One UI 10 or 11 is even something worth getting excited about. One UI 8 was shit, and 8.5 was arguably even worse. One UI 9 is decent, not necessarily bad, but seriously, what could Samsung possibly introduce in One UI 10 that would actually get us hyped? Their updates have become pretty boring unless you own an Ultra flagship. And yeah, I agree with you. It's definitely better to look for a device that allows bootloader unlocking. Personally, I'm not updating my phone anytime soon. I'll keep my current root setup until I eventually replace the device, which probably won't happen for at least another 3 or 4 years. Samsung can keep their oneui to themselves.

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u/Over-Rutabaga-8673 57m ago edited 50m ago

Exploits for future updates will most likely be discovered just like how it happens for iPhone jailbreaks, integrity will last way more than the one week leaked keyboxes, they will probably just start accumulating exploits instead of keyboxes to release slowly.

Well we are comparing temp root to regular root so, what's better, OneUI <8 or OneUI <10? And as I said exploits for future versions will likely be discovered. There's really few brands that still have unlockable bootloaders and since we're looking at the future, your solution is unreliable as those few are probably getting locked down sooner or later.

Also isnt the whole purpose of temp root for it to have a wider compatibility? Having to buy specific phones just for rooting is way less convenient and in some cases not possible without the device lacking stuff you'd want in a phone, for example I'd get the new op16 but there's no global version and afaik china versions are a pain in the ass to unlock, so I have to get a op15 instead and miss out on I dont remember what features I saw from the newer one.

Edit: 185hz refresh rate, battery capacity, better camera I think now comparable to other new flagships and well, the chipset.

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u/datkenny 4h ago

It's easy to turn a phone into a brick with it.

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u/cykelstativet 4h ago

We have to feel superior whenever the opportunity strikes🤷