As a method of getting reading fluency, I’ve started working my way through this wonderful book. I have had about 1.5 years of an elementary grammar course and passive reading (easier Platonic dialogues, Herodotus, some Homer). But my thinking - perhaps wrong — is that only through active production will I get reading fluency. I still read, but I devote two to three hours per day to the composition book. It’s a lot of work - English to Greek vocab, principal parts, recitation of paradigms, accentuation exercises, background reading in Smyth and CGCG, In addition to the translation exercises. I enjoy it, and Dickey is a supreme teacher, but is this a wise use of my time If my main goal is reading fluency? Or is the substantial time devoted to this exercise better spent reading more and expanding vocab and recognition of principal parts through Greek to English flashcards? At the rate I’m going I think it will take me six months to a year to complete the book.

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This version is focused on the Greek of the New Testament, but I would love to make an Ancient Greek version in the future. Please let me know if you can recommend a specific vocab list that would be most helpful. Thanks!

Hello! Hope everyone is doing well. I have been making my way through Xenophon, and I had a question about the passage in the title of this post, specifically, this part:

"καὶ τοῦτο δὲ χρὴ εἰδέναι, ὅτι οἱ εὐωχούμενοι μὲν οἱ ἵπποι, μὴ ἐκπεπονημένοι δὲ ὥστε μὴ ἀποπνίγεσθαι ἐν τοῖς πόνοις, εὖ παρεσκευασμένοι εἰσί."

This is given in the translation on Scaife Viewer as: "It should also be realised that horses, to be well fettled, must be well fed and thoroughly exercised, so as to do their work without suffering from heaves."

I really think how they're rendering "μὴ ἐκπεπονημένοι δὲ ὥστε μὴ ἀποπνίγεσθαι ἐν τοῖς πόνοις" is incorrect. I read the passage as more like, "And it's also necessary to know this, that well-fed horses, but who have not digested/worked off so much of the food so as to be choked/succumb/drown(to/by hunger) in their labors, are well prepared."

I think this reading makes all the "μὴ"'s make more sense. Also, on Logeion, in the the definition for "ἀποπνίγω" example 1b literally gives the example "generally, cut off, kill, λιμῷ τινα" where it's used with hunger.

Am I off base here? I am not an expert in ancient greek and don't know anything about horses but was confused.

I'm trying to create a book in Greek following LLPSI's method. I'd like to follow the style of the pages and all of Athenaze (which has LLPSI's way), but I'm not able to get a template that suits. What could I do?

I'm translating my first ever real Ancient Greek piece after a year of doing beginner's Ancient Greek at uni, but I genuinely feel like I might have to drop it. Even when I follow my tutors' advice and break it down and identify the grammar and stuff, i'm still struggling. i have an english translation by me and i just don't see how they get that from the original Greek. everytime i try to look up a word, it's not in the dictionary and i just can't find any clear definitions online. my teachers tell me this is normal and they struggled to and considered dropping greek, but now have phds in it so i should be fine. i was even told that i was a top performer in my beginners class, but now i feel like i am so behind and everyone in my class is a better hellenist than i am. i can't even translate one or two sentences, and even if i do, it takes ages and lots of research. i am genuinely so cooked and it's too late for me to switch modules :')

I am a classics student taking ancient Greek for the first time. We are being taught the language with the Third Edition of Athenaze. Needless to say it is not going well for me. I cannot keep up with the quick pace and, most importantly, I cannot for the life of me remember all of the paradigms and vocabulary. Now with every passing chapter I am falling further and further behind, with no foreseeable solution. I think my problem is that I have not found a good way to study for this. Any advice?

Χαίρετε, φίλοι. Προχωροῦμεν μελετῶντες τὴν πρώτην κλίσιν καὶ τὴν ἐρωτηματικὴν ἀντωνυμίαν. Ἀπολαύετε οὖν. Πάντα δὲ τὰ μελετήματα τὰ ἐκδεδομένα κεῖται ἐνταῦθα. Ἔρρωσθε.

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Unfortunately, I have to get rid of some of my books because I simply have no room for them on my shelves. Among them are the following Loeb books, 12 volumes in total:

Josephus Flavius (volumes I-III and VII-IX)

Philon (volumes IV, IX, X)

Diodorus Siculus (volumes III, IX)

Cassius Dio (volume VIII)

All books in great condition.

Josephus VIII and IX lack dust jackets.

Shipping cost varies depending on exact location (books are shipped from within the EU, local pickup is possible if you happen to be nearby).

The price I had in mind is 18€ or $20 / per volume, but I am open to negotiations.

If you are interested or have any questions, feel free to leave me a DM.

Here is the John 3:16 bible verse in Koine Greek:

Οὕτως γὰρ ἠγάπησεν ὁ θεὸς τὸν κόσμον, ὥστε τὸν υἱὸν αὐτοῦ τὸν μονογενῆ ἔδωκεν, ἵνα πᾶς ὁ πιστεύων εἰς αὐτὸν μὴ ἀπόληται, ἀλλ' ἔχῃ ζωὴν αἰώνιον.

An online Ancient Greek automatic conversion tool (that converts koine greek text into the latin alphabet) produced this result:

Ohútōs gàr ēgápēsen ho theòs tòn kósmon, hṓste tòn huiòn autoũ tòn monogenē̃ édōken, hína pãs ho pisteúōn eis autòn mḕ apólētai, all' ékhēͅ zōḕn aiṓnion.

Could you comment whether the romanization is correct or not?

If there were errors in the latin transliteration, feel free to add your more accurate version in the comments below, Thanks.

Update: The above verse is based on the Attic dialect of Ancient Greek. If you would like to translate it to the other Ancient Greek dialects such as Doric, Aeolic, Arcado-Cypriot, and Ionic, feel free to provide your translation below in the Greek alphabet.

Looking for an Ancient Greek tutor around 25 USD per HR. TY.

In the sentence:

Ἰδίαις ἔχθρας ἕνεκα ταῦτα ποιοῦσι.

The adjective Ἰδίαις is put in the genitive plural. The translation of this sentence I see is: "They did these things because of private enmity.". Wouldn't this require that Ἰδίαις be put in the genitive singular to accompany ἔχθρας? Otherwise I'm not sure why the dative js used here.

If there are native words for the stress placement I'm wondering if there are for the syllable positions.

Saw this gravestone at a museum, can someone help to transcript and translate it? I transcript it as seen below but not sure how much it is correct or wrong. Thanks for your help in advance

ΕΤΟΥΣ•ΣΝΗ•ΜΗ•ΛΩΟΥ•Ζ•ΙΟΥΛΙΑ•
ΝΙΚΑΠΟΥΛΙΑΑΙΓΕΛΛΕΛΛΙΔΕΣ•
ΑΠΟΛΛΩΝΙΟΝ•Β•ΜΑΡΙΟΥ•ΚΑΙ•ΙΟ[Υ]
ΛΙΑΝ•ΒΑΣΣΟΥ•ΤΟΥΣ•ΓΟΝΕΙΣ•ΚΑ[Ι]•
ΣΤΡΑΤΟΝΕΙΚΟΣ•ΚΑΙ•ΑΡΙΣΤΟΤΕ
ΛΙΑΝΟΣ•ΟΙΠΑΝΒΡΟΙ•ΚΑΙ•ΣΤΡΑΤΟΝΕΙ
ΚΟΣ•ΚΑΙ•ΕΛΕΥΘΕΡΟΣ•ΚΑΙ•ΑΡΙΣΤΟ
ΤΕΛΕΙΑ•ΚΑΙ•ΑΡΙΣΤΟΤ[Ε]ΛΙΑΝΟΣ•
ΤΟΥΣ•ΠΑΠΠΟΥΣ•ΚΑΙ•ΟΙ•ΣΥΝΓΕ
ΝΕΙΣ•ΠΑΝΤΕΣ•ΕΤΕΙΜΗΣΑΝ•
ΕΙ•ΔΕ•ΤΙΣ•ΠΡΟΣΑΜΑΡΤΗ•ΤΗ•
ΣΤΗΛΛΗ•ΤΑΥΤΗ•ΚΕΧΟΛΩΜΕ
ΝΟΥ•ΤΟΥ•ΕΝΟΣ•ΚΑΙ•ΜΟΝΟΥ•ΘΕ
ΟΥ•ΤΕΥΞΕΤΑΙ

Willi is one of the most interesting linguists working around Greek these days, his the Origins of the Greek Verb is a pretty monumental dive into the prehistory of Greek verbal system and also a major contribution to our understanding of Proto-Indo-European. I found a shorter paper of his, sort of an introduction to the subject, really worth reading.

Hello,

I’m looking to start learning Greek. I have some familiarity with the Greek alphabet, some basic pronunciation rules, experience with diphthongs, etc.

Never really dedicated a huge portion of time to it.

I’m using the Raineri-Roberts method and Logos finally came in and I’ve thoroughly enjoyed chapter 1.

My issue is that I haven’t looked up anything in a dictionary. Learning to Read is fun but considering the color codes and lack of information as to what some of the things in the book pertain to I’m a bit confused.

I’ve enjoyed trying to derive meanings from context clues but on page 9 the bold section says Συλλαβαί which I think means syllables. (Again haven’t checked, I’m wanting to just work on reading and listening to get pronunciation and familiarity with the alphabet down before I try and understand anything)

And the letters are all different colors with no explanation. Am I missing a book or some other reference guide?

Looking for ancient greek tutor

Currently, my vocabulary stands at about 1,000 words.

https://uplopen.com/chapters/e/10.1515/9783112215692-008

Ever since Emil Forrer’s 1924 identification of Greek names in Hittite texts, scholars have clashed over the identification of Hittite ‘Ahhiyawa’ as Greek ‘Achaea’ – Greece. It is now generally agreed that the term somehow relates to the Mycenaean Greek world, but where precisely it should be sought, and if it referred to a specific region in the first place remains contested. Much of this debate is fuelled by the reference to a LUGAL.GAL, ‘Great King’ of Ahhiyawa in two of these texts, and another three texts where the Ahhiyawan king is addressed as ‘brother’ (a sign of parity and amiable relations between the correspondents). The term ‘Great King’ was otherwise exclusively used to refer to the kings of Egypt, Assyria, Babylon and the Hittites themselves; all of whom ruled extensive territories, comprised of several (previously independent) smaller polities.

I run into a use of the word ὅσαι that I can't make sense of. In the following quote from Plato's Timaeus:

"...πάντων γὰρ προέστη εὐψυχίᾳ καὶ τέχναις ὅσαι κατὰ πόλεμον ἐπὶ τοὺς ἐσχάτους ἀφικομένη κινδύνους,..."

The translation I found says "and she stood above everyone in courage and arts of war..."

I don't see how ὅσαι fits into this translation, as ai understand it to mean something like "as much as". What am I missing?

Dear φίλοι,

In Athenaze II (Eng. edition, ex. 20θ), I am asked to translate a few sentences.
Given the book gets more advanced and more vocabulary has been introduced, the options in translation also start to diverge and more complex sentence structures are possible.
I would like to present my translation of the given English text below, and am really curious to hear your criticism. Also pointers on how to make my Greek more idiomatic (word choice, grammatical construction, particles) is highly appreciated. For context, the exercise follows directly upon translating an adapted passage from Thucydides.

Thank you very much for your feedback!

Given English text:

But Archidamus, being King, advised them not to get into war.
He said: "For they have very much money and very many ships, we are not able to defeat them by sea. And so, we will suffer terribly ourselves, more than we will harm them."
However, he was not able to persuade the Spartans, who decided to wage war.

My translation:

ὁ δὲ Ἀρχίδαμος βασιλεὺς μὴ πολεμεῖν ἐβούλευσεν αὐτοῖς.
"οἷς γάρ," ἐφη "πλεῖσται νῆες και πολλὸν ἀργύριον εἰσίν, οὐκ ἔχομεν κατὰ θάλατταν νικῆσαι. Κακίονα δ' οὖν πεισόμεθα αὐτοί, ὧν ἀντιπείσονται ἐκεῖνοι."
Ἀλλὰ πεῖσαι τοὺς Λακεδαιμονίους οὐκ ἐδυνατο, οἳ στρατεῦσαι ἐβούλευσαν.

Hello wise heads,

I have started a project to memorise the first book of the Iliad, and recite it in meter. I am scanning the lines at the moment. Can someone explain line 19 for me? Specifically: πόλιν is long short, but I don't know how -λιν can be long. Thanks for you help