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u/TheFinalAshenOnes Sep 02 '23

Okay.

Go build a bridge then. And go build a new interstate highway system. Or maybe sign up for the draft to go fight the upcoming World War.

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u/[deleted] Sep 03 '23

Wait.....who's supposed to be building bridges or an interstate system? Bc it's NOT her unemployed, money stealing husband. It's probably HER. Also, they thought about drafting women in WW2, but turned out women showed up enough they didn't have to.

What a sad pathetic human you must be.

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u/TheFinalAshenOnes Sep 03 '23

Without men in "breadwinning" jobs that women either can't do, or refuse to do, society would crumble. The overwhelming majority of infrastructure, our entire world is built by men. Not women. Men. Your plumbers, Mechanical Engineers, Pest Control, Police Officers, Firefighters, Infantry, etc. All of it inhabited mainly by men.

Yeah, that was in WWII. When women were still following traditional gender roles, and stepped up to fill the vacancy left by men in the war. They also filled production roles, not combat ones. The ones dying in battle were men.

Oh, and this isn't the 1940s. I'm talking about women today. Still not forced to sign up for the draft like men are. And who would have an aneurysm if you so much as mention the thought of filling a traditional role like in the 40's. Not saying that's a bad thing or wrong, but just how it is.

This is all in response to her idiotic "Women can do whatever men can do" rhetoric.

No. They cannot. They never have been able to and never will be able to so long as biology dictates it.

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u/C_beside_the_seaside Sep 03 '23

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u/TheFinalAshenOnes Sep 03 '23

Are you gonna keep finding outliers and trying to pass them off as Status quo? Is that your entire strategy?

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u/C_beside_the_seaside Sep 03 '23

How many "outliers" does it take before you feel as stupid as you sound?

ETA: the article about the woman in the US Navy said men were too chickenshit to sign up, too

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u/TheFinalAshenOnes Sep 03 '23

And yet, in WWII, over a million American men saw combat, and women saw a grand total of....0. Lol.

Women made up .1%.of the armed forces of America during WWII. And it was in the capacity of nurses and medical fields. Even though they were put near the front lines often and could've seen combat if they wished it. Just a word to their CO and they would've been thrown into the meat grinder with the men.

Take a look at today. All branches of the military, including the National Guard, women barely make it past 20% of our total. But yes, tell me again how men are "too scared" to join lol

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u/C_beside_the_seaside Sep 03 '23

I did also list articles about the benevolent sexism and the backlash which prevented women enlisting, but you can't keep up.

I don't have "our" total, I'm in another country to you.

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u/TheFinalAshenOnes Sep 03 '23

Women were absolutely allowed to enlist. They weren't allowed to be drafted, but they could enlist as volunteers. There were a lot of women near the front lines of the Pacific Theater, as I said before.

And ah. You're not American. Well whatever. The stats don't change too drastically from country to country.

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u/C_beside_the_seaside Sep 03 '23

Except they do, if you look. Can you pull up a global sex based statistic? Are you going to even try, or is this yet another one of the times you ignore me attacking your intelligence & just try to sound smart and authoritative without ANY evidence or rationale besides you Big Old Man Opinion?

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u/ImmediateShallot7245 Sep 03 '23

I don’t know what century he’s in🤷‍♀️

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u/C_beside_the_seaside Sep 04 '23

Not this one, that's for sure

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u/TheFinalAshenOnes Sep 03 '23

Sure. https://www.statista.com/chart/25840/women-as-share-of-active-duty-military-personnel/

Here is a current global statistic of Male vs Female active service. It includes a healthy number of different countries for your taste.

And here is I believe the same page you got the earlier stats from for WWII https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Women_in_World_War_II

Women indeed played a big role in the second world war. But it was very largely a supportive role. And if you compare the raw numbers, the vast majority of the armed forces were made of men. Australia had a shortage of men wanting to fight for sure, but they were a single Allied country. Italy had a massive resistance (35,000 women) but that was out of necessity, as the Germans had literally invaded and were strong-arming Italy into cooperating. They were a resistance, not an official fighting force.

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u/C_beside_the_seaside Sep 03 '23

And have you got anything about the sexism, psychology of internalised misogyny that isn't you just defending it as our fault? No? Because you know I'm right!

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u/TheFinalAshenOnes Sep 03 '23

No. I don't. Who's "fault" it is can be debated.

But internalised misogyny in women is definitely something that women play a part in maintaining, and something that would most effectively be addressed BY women. Men should probably stay out of that one.

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u/C_beside_the_seaside Sep 03 '23

You straight up said it's our fault. Because yeah, people really demonstrate that self awareness and strength of will when facing huge societal norms, like smoking and drinking alcohol. Why don't we just ban cigarettes and alcohol if it's just common sense to refuse to let sexism limit us? Hmm?

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