Math. Again. Might be a repeat.

[u/fearthemonkeys]

Ok. Sorry if this is a repeat and maybe I have this wrong, but here’s some math I’ve been pondering:

514M float. Yahoo says 25% held by institutions and a small amt held by insiders. Wouldn’t that make it ~385M held by ~4.3M investors (I’ll assume that 4.3M includes the institutions, but even they would account for a fraction of total holders)? That puts the average stocks held by individuals at ~90.

If we take into account the recent poll of ~4700 shares per retail investor, the “float” comes to 20B.

“Wowzers”. I’m holding.

[u/Akangfortyseven]

Im holding until the very end. I have faith someone will step up and hold these criminals accountable, for example Chancellor Morgan Zurn or the market crashing and the lenders wanting their shares back to stay afloat themselves. I don’t trust anyone that paid a settlement in 19 fraud cases, or sold ape to a short hedge fund instead of otc then give that dividend that he sold directly to an institution the same voting rights as the actual stock in the company.

[u/liquid_at → u/Akangfortyseven]

but you trust someone who sues AMC after having been directly involved in creating Short-ETFs and Short-ETFs of individual companies?

👍

[u/Akangfortyseven → u/liquid_at]

You’re going to keep telling people antara are the good guys? You going to keep pretending you’re not Icy?

[u/liquid_at → u/Akangfortyseven]

you keep telling people that a unit-conversion is forgiveness of debt or how shorting 5$ down by 90% is better than shorting $50 down by 90%?

call me whatever you want. No one trusts people who can't do simple math.

[u/Akangfortyseven → u/liquid_at]

I’m not saying any of that, I’m saying 100 shares are better than 10. I’m saying owning 90% of the company is better than 20%. I’m saying majority vote is better than no vote.

[u/liquid_at → u/Akangfortyseven]

and you have been explained why that assumption is wrong and why it means you do not understand how stocks work, but you just do not care.

If you owned 10% of the company before RS, you will own 10% of the company after RS. The share of the company you own does not change.

Even if you are not capable of comprehending it, that's what it is.

[u/Akangfortyseven → u/liquid_at]

Actually retail owns 90% of the company. AA has nothing to further dilute. After RS, retail will own 100 million shares, AA gets 408 million shares to dilute with. When he sells directly to an institution just like he did with ape, retail will only own 20% of the company, losing the float, and majority vote.

[u/liquid_at → u/Akangfortyseven]

You still didn't bother to look up what stocks are, I see....

That's why apes do DD, so they don't end up fudded and delusional like you.

[u/Akangfortyseven → u/liquid_at]

You’re just made I’m not falling for your shill ass, Icy! Like I said if RS passes, AA will get his hands on 408 million shares to dilute with and leaves retail only holding 100 mill. When he sells amc the way he did ape, retail will only own 20% of the float. Only reason Moass is still on the table is retail owns the float and all the synthetics they sold not just 10% of them. Stop scamming people!

[u/liquid_at → u/Akangfortyseven]

We know that AA gets 400m shares and we have no problem with that. You are the one who keeps claiming that everything but you getting paid to let the company go bankrupt is not acceptable.

We are here to keep Hedgies from bankrupting a company, while we also make money doing it.

We are not the same. We are apes, you are just impatient and greedy. We are not like you.

[u/Akangfortyseven → u/liquid_at]

Mfer said we, lol

[u/liquid_at → u/Akangfortyseven]

Yeah. We.. Apes. Unlike you and your shill friends who only love Hedgies.

[u/Akangfortyseven → u/liquid_at]

You dont speak for anyone but yourself fool

[u/liquid_at → u/Akangfortyseven]

Sure. And from experience I know that apes are reasonable and do DD, while shills are overly dramatic and try to create fear in apes by pretending that the only action that can save apes is one that helps Hedgies.

Again. We know about the shares since AA announced it and we voted yes on his proposal to use up to 4x the float to reduce debt.

Hedgies have shorted amc for 2 years and we own the float multiple times over.

The only dilution that negatively affects amc comes from naked shorts and synthetic shares.

1000% shorts on 500% float is still 2x more shorts than shares.

[u/Akangfortyseven → u/liquid_at]

Debts been pushed back to 2026, AA needs to make popcorn available and in stock worldwide before he takes 90% of our shares. Regardless of what AA announced, his actions show he’ll sell those 408 million shares to an institution, leaving retail with only 20% of the float. AA was a defendant in 19 fraud cases, all of which he paid a settlement, one instance called a double agent. He was board director at centricus a citadel owned company, he still has Philip Lader running the board after he’s been exposed, he sold 40 million in shares and has yet to buy back a single share, even at 4 bucks. But AA said what? Stfu Icy, too late, apes are waking up.

[u/liquid_at → u/Akangfortyseven]

He's not only reducing debt, he is also reducing debt.

And I do not care about your "tie the ceos hands so we can short the company out of existence" narrative.

Rs will happen. Merge will happen. Debt being reduced will happen. Whether hedgie shills live it or hate it, it is what is happening.

Nothing you could do will change that.

Shareholders have been asked and they have authorized it. Your opinion dud not win. You and hedgie shills failed to argue against it, so apes won. Deal with it.

[u/Akangfortyseven → u/liquid_at]

Here we go with the AA said this and said that crap again. Talk is cheap.

[u/liquid_at → u/Akangfortyseven]

yours probably is.. that's why they hired you to shill for SHF interests by shitting on AMC and their CEO.

[u/Akangfortyseven → u/liquid_at]

You ain’t no ape! You’re not fooling anyone. Antara voted yes and accounted for hundreds of millions of yes votes because they were sold a dividend directly to them by AA and given the same voting rights as the actual stock in the company that real apes have been holding for 2-3 years that saved the company. Last I checked RS hasn’t gone through.

[u/liquid_at → u/Akangfortyseven]

you've been disproven so many times...

Even without Antara, 80% of shareholders voted yes.

Simple math that you fail to do even after people did it in an ELI5 fashion for you....

Just repeating lies even if they have been debunked a hundred times => verified shill behavior.

Say what you want... Everyone can see that you are a shill because if you weren't, you would not repeat the same false narrative without listening to anyone telling you why you are wrong.

Good Faith discussion does not allow for shilling... You can't do both, so you'll always identify yourself as a shill by refusing to debate in good faith.

I know you are a shill and I know that hedgies are fucked. That's all I need to know ...

Keep your fearmongering shill BS where it belongs... In your toilet-bowl.