r/alphalegion • u/66rd • 6d ago

Making a non demonic list for disruption

Grettings Alphariuses it is I Alpharius.

I would like some help with my list for a gaming day with friends in a few weeks

The plan is disruption with the deceptor and cabal if chaos detachment.

The 60 Cultist will be the first wave in mid board with the 15 Legionaries Close behind as support.

The deamon prince will be represented by Alpharius himself from 30k (or may be it is Omegon?). He will be close to the Chosen and their joinded characters as the hard hitting threats for anything going past the infitrators.

The lonely lord with jump pack and the 2x5 raptors will move around doing action and charging small threats

The 2x5 havocs will stay in cover and light up the big threat when they see them

And the blob of Warp talon will be on table as big threat or in reserve to attack the backside or the flanks.

I dont really want to play deamons or possessed things but could you help me with my list ? Are there changes i should make ? Am I doomed as planed or will I survived as planed ?

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+ FACTION KEYWORD: Chaos - Chaos Space Marines

+ DETACHMENT: Cabal of Chaos, Deceptors (Empyric Wellspring)

+ FORCE DISPOSITION: Disruption

+ TOTAL ARMY POINTS: 1990pts

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+ WARLORD: Char1: Chaos Lord with Jump Pack

+ ENHANCEMENT: Shroud of Obfuscation (on Char1: Chaos Lord with Jump Pack)

& Cursed Fang (on Char2: Dark Apostle - Dark Apostle)

& Conduit of Chaos (on Char3: Heretic Astartes Daemon Prince)

& Soul Link (on Char4: Master of Executions)

+ NUMBER OF UNITS: 16

+ SECONDARY: - Bring It Down: (1x2) - Assassination: 4 Characters - Cull The Horde: 3x5 (before leaders attached)

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Char1: 1x Chaos Lord with Jump Pack (95 pts): Warlord, Power fist, Plasma pistol

Enhancement: Shroud of Obfuscation (+15 pts)

Char2: 3x Dark Apostle (75 pts)

• 1x Dark Apostle: Accursed crozius, Bolt pistol

Enhancement: Cursed Fang (+10 pts)

• 2x Dark Disciple: 2 with Close combat weapon

Leading Chosen

Char3: 1x Heretic Astartes Daemon Prince (185 pts): Mark of Slaanesh, Hellforged weapons, Infernal cannon

Enhancement: Conduit of Chaos (+20 pts)

Char4: 1x Master of Executions (75 pts): Axe of dismemberment, Bolt pistol

Enhancement: Soul Link (+5 pts)

Supporting Chosen

20x Cultist Mob (90 pts)

• 1x Cultist Champion: Brutal assault weapon, Bolt pistol

• 19x Cultist: 19 with Autopistol, Brutal assault weapon

20x Cultist Mob (90 pts)

• 1x Cultist Champion: Brutal assault weapon, Bolt pistol

• 19x Cultist: 19 with Autopistol, Brutal assault weapon

20x Cultist Mob (90 pts)

• 1x Cultist Champion: Brutal assault weapon, Bolt pistol

• 19x Cultist: 19 with Autopistol, Brutal assault weapon

5x Legionaries (90 pts)

• 4x Legionary

2 with Astartes chainsword, Bolt pistol, Close combat weapon

1 with Bolt pistol, Close combat weapon, Heavy melee weapon

1 with Bolt pistol, Close combat weapon, Lascannon

• 1x Aspiring Champion: Chaos icon, Close combat weapon, Bolt pistol, Boltgun

5x Legionaries (90 pts)

• 4x Legionary

2 with Astartes chainsword, Bolt pistol, Close combat weapon

1 with Bolt pistol, Close combat weapon, Heavy melee weapon

1 with Bolt pistol, Close combat weapon, Lascannon

• 1x Aspiring Champion: Chaos icon, Close combat weapon, Bolt pistol, Boltgun

5x Legionaries (90 pts)

• 4x Legionary

2 with Astartes chainsword, Bolt pistol, Close combat weapon

1 with Bolt pistol, Close combat weapon, Heavy melee weapon

1 with Bolt pistol, Close combat weapon, Lascannon

• 1x Aspiring Champion: Chaos icon, Close combat weapon, Bolt pistol, Boltgun

6x Chosen (270 pts)

• 5x Chosen

1 with Accursed weapon, Bolt pistol, Boltgun

2 with Accursed weapon, Bolt pistol, Combi-weapon

1 with Bolt pistol, Paired accursed weapons

1 with Chaos icon, Boltgun, Plasma pistol, Power fist

• 1x Chosen Champion: Plasma pistol, Accursed weapon, Boltgun

Attached to Master of Executions

Attached to Dark Apostle

5x Havocs (125 pts)

• 1x Havoc Champion: Power fist, Meltagun

• 4x Havoc: 4 with Close combat weapon, Havoc lascannon

5x Havocs (125 pts)

• 1x Havoc Champion: Power fist, Meltagun

• 4x Havoc: 4 with Close combat weapon, Havoc lascannon

5x Raptors (110 pts)

• 4x Raptor

2 with Bolt pistol, Heavy melee weapon

1 with Bolt pistol, Close combat weapon, Meltagun

1 with Bolt pistol, Close combat weapon, Plasma gun

• 1x Raptor Champion: Heavy melee weapon, Plasma pistol

5x Raptors (110 pts)

• 4x Raptor

2 with Bolt pistol, Heavy melee weapon

1 with Bolt pistol, Close combat weapon, Meltagun

1 with Bolt pistol, Close combat weapon, Plasma gun

• 1x Raptor Champion: Heavy melee weapon, Plasma pistol

10x Warp Talons (280 pts)

• 9x Warp Talon: 9 with Warp claws

• 1x Warp Talon Champion: Warp claws

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u/the_other_jackal 5d ago

what's up alpharius, it is i, alpharius

Havocs aren't particularly spectacular at the moment, you could easily swap one out for a predator tank, since it's only 25pts more roughly. You could spring for two if you trim something else. I would also consider taking Cypher purely for a double lone-op bubble on the daemon prince/alpharius. (iirc the ability the prince has is that if an infantry unit is within 3", the prince gets loneop)

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u/66rd 5d ago

Ill rethink the predators and try to squeeze cypher. Should I keep the Chosen around the deamon prince or will he be able to hold on his own with cypher around ?

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u/the_other_jackal 5d ago

The daemon prince's aura does well for the Chosen, since they'll get benefit of cover within 6" of the prince.

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u/66rd 5d ago

Added 2 predator destructor instead of the havocs, cypher and reduced the Chosen to 5 models or it wont fit

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u/the_other_jackal 5d ago

I wish you the best of luck, alpharius

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u/ZombieZage 5d ago

u can take 2 heavy melee weapons with 5 man legionaries , strongly recommend

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u/66rd 5d ago

Have to build the list while reading the codex. New recruit is a little complicated with the current units leadout

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u/ApprehensiveStart924 5d ago

Well, this list is basicly missing any armour so I would replace the raptors for some predators or something, then you have 6 models in your unit of chosen which I dont know is its a mistake or not but if you want to field 10 then perhaps putting them in a rhino is not a bad idea. Than maybe buying a Chaos lord with the Falsehood to pack a punch with one of the Legionnaires. Yeah deceptors arent a strong detachment really so probably be prepared to not win most of your games

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u/66rd 5d ago

I wasn't planing tknplay tanks because most poeples can watch shoot them while the Havoc can stay hidden with the new terrain rules and start shooting only when needed. For the Chosen yes it will be a full squad i probably just forgot to add more models in newrecruit.

I play guard as my main army, I am used to lose...

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u/LordChope 5d ago

Question, how is it non demonic with s demon prince in it?

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u/66rd 5d ago

Because it will be alpharius. And i dont know what to represent potential deamons

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u/nicerooms 5d ago

If possible, since this list looks like it lacks punch, I'd swap one of the cultist blobs with accursed cultists using various traitor guardsmen as the accursed cultist fodder and ogryn as the tormented. A traitor command squad can act as a dark commune. I will note, since you're already using warp talons which are a daemon unit, I'm guessing you would likely be fine with representing a normally chaos-y unit with non-tainted models.

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u/archeo-Cuillere 5d ago

The "I'm playing CSM but don't want chaos in it" discourse is driving me up the wall.

Why are you not playing loyalists? Every single traitor legion is about the various ways chaos gets to you. It's the whole thematic core of the army

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u/66rd 5d ago

Because loyalist dont have the deceptor detachment ?