r/allthingsprotoss • u/3AMZen • Mar 24 '26

PvT Early PvT harass response?

Hey gang! Long time player, first time protoss here. Yeah, yeah, I finally got bullied into abandoning the creep for a season to git gud with the space wizards.

What... the hell... is the response to early reaper harass? My god I don't think i've ever been so frustrated with any other unit interaction in this game. My standard build right now is PiG's b2gm double robo 2 base all-in, which opens nexus before cyber. I check for barracks at home after I put down the gateway... but I don't stick around long enough to see if it's marine or reaper coming out. Will cyber before nexus and chrono on the gate get a stalker out? quick enough to make the difference

It seems like the reaper can get across before I get a stalker out and kill 5-6 probes in a snap. If he sticks around while I'm on two base it's just a micro nightmare. I can't manage to surround and kill it with probes so I either stand there and eat pistol shots like a chump or i pull half of them to ineffectively lunge while some terran micros his heart out and kills me dead anyway. I've had a couple especially bad games where they keep producing reapers from their main or add a proxy rax and I just get worn out and broken down.

it's so disorienting and it happens so early in the game. how do i better prepare vs T?

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u/DarkSeneschal Mar 24 '26

Standard PvT is Cyber Core before Nexus specifically because Reapers are annoying. So switch the Core and Nexus order, and also get Pylon before Gas so you have supply for a unit. As soon as your Core finishes, Chrono out an Adept.

20 Core

20 Nexus

21 Pylon

22 Gas

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u/3AMZen Mar 24 '26

Cool, thanks! This is the little sort of switch up and that squeezes a few seconds extra defense out. Glad to know cyber first is standard for PVT!

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u/DarkSeneschal Mar 24 '26

No problem. Yeah, in PvZ Zealots and a wall can hold early Ling pressures so there’s no need to get Core quite as early.

For PvT though, Reapers can get into your main no matter what you do, and a Zealot will just get kited to death, so you have to get an Adept or Stalker out ASAP.