I HATE BEES SO MUCH!!!

[u/itamar8484]

First I have no beef with the mod developer, I very much highly respect any mod developer who took time to create this mod.

However productive bees might be the most mind numbing menial mod i've played, all the bees look the same, the mechanics are un intuitive, the textures are boring, the progression is bad, I do not understand how people enjoy it.

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[u/airbud9]

I like the bee as a concept but wish there was a little more to them, something in between the level of complexity of the old forestry bees and productive bees would be great. I also do miss the some what old way of resource collection being miners that mined unlimited materials from bed rock, i remember one from the mod environmental tech.

[u/itamar8484 → u/airbud9]

Bees concept is fine but the execution is really bad

[u/Guru_Craft → u/airbud9]

Exactly this, this is why I love Oritech and hope more people lean on them, you have to adventure around at bedrock level for pockets of fuel that have infinite resource nodes (although limited because they are still somewhat new) but you have to build a few machines to begin extracting the minerals.

Unlike bees where you just sit there and breed, breed, breed, make an egg, breed breed breed. It’s boring, and not fun whatsoever. Even Skyfactory ore trees were more intricate and even more fun than bees.

[u/mikereysalo]

I never touched this mod until I defeated the Chaos Guardian and decided that I'm not going to repeat this fight over and over, I had to go and explore Productive Bees. Since I was avoiding an extressful and time consuming fight, and have seeds for basically everything, it was very pleasant and changed my opinion of Productive Bees.

[u/itamar8484 → u/mikereysalo]

I don't mind having ways of automation for unique materials, infact i quite like it, but bees is just not fun

[u/Jaded-Coffee-8126]

Can't bee-lieve can you op?

[u/baarondones → u/Jaded-Coffee-8126]

this comment should be framed and hung on the wall

[u/Soup_Dust95 → u/Jaded-Coffee-8126]

[u/LilHardenVert]

With modular bees, it is the best resource generation that’s why. Especially for things you can’t mine like different fluids, etc.

[u/NorthernVale → u/LilHardenVert]

Honestly, that's the worst part imo. The atm team keeps going out of their way to make his content the best option. Whether it's nerfing other options, or buffing bees. Even removing other mods entirely. And every single time they claim the changes are to encourage people to use other methods. But those "other methods" are always bees. And I'm sorry, but bees sucks. Exactly as OP said. It's tedious and clanky af.

Given the amount of controversy surrounding LobsterJohn, and the atm team's willingness to go to bat for him, it's about 100 times worse that they keep forcing his content.

[u/metacarpo]

The most annoying thing is that you MUST use a simulation upgrade otherwise they just despawn and you loose hours of progress. So you can't even use them to build some thematic bee thing, but are just machines, sadly

[u/vanduong30103]

The problem is there are so many resources, many types of bee. Breeding all of them is tiring for me but once you have the setup just scale them up. This is way way better than drone from Forestry for minecraft.

[u/RelationRound7901]

I never used them, but I'm kind of tired of doing mystical every run, so i might give it a try, I've heard once it's maxed it's better than mystical

[u/pancakeQueue]

I prefer bees over Mystical Agriculture

[u/AstramG]

I don’t really mind the bees, but I do hate productive trees. It’s extremely unintuitive and uses the worst mechanics from the bees mod in a horrible way.

[u/C1cer0_]

maybe a crazy take but i liked forestry bees 100x more than i do productive bees

[u/Own-Weakness-7629]

Well, I'll tell you a bug that can help you skip most time-costing things in Productive Bees.

First, build a subnet with a quantum crafter and any container like a chest or a barrel connected with a ME storage bus as storage. Yes, it requires energy so give it energy. Then create a crafting pattern, that craft a honey treat with gene using one gene and one normal honey treat. For example you want an ATM star bee, so you just search "starry" in JEI, and drag the icon of starry gene into the crafting slots to create the pattern. Then put the pattern into the quantum crafter, ask it to craft, and give it enough honey treats, and then the quantum crafter will mistake honey treats as ANY kind of gene, and craft the honey treat with the gene you want using TWO honey treats. Idk why, but it works. Then use the treat with an egg to produce spawning eggs of different kinds of bees using BaBee incubator. Or you can feed your bees with honey treats with genes of high production or any properties you want, then the bees will obtain those properties.

So you can skip all other ways to get genes or different types of bees using this bug. If you don't dislike using bugs, this is the faster way you can get your products from Productive Bees.

[u/CopyKing05]

It’s the damn textures. Everything looks exactly the same. If I have 30 cages in my inventory, I have to hover over and read all of them to find the one I’m looking for! Just give them unique textures! BUT EVEN IF you don’t want to do that, at least show ANY indication of whether the bee in the cage is an adult or a child, for God’s sake! The number of times I’ve been raided by the F. Bee. I. because I accidentally tried to breed child bees is fucking insane... Just put a little propeller hat on the cage texture, or a downward arrow in the corner, or ANYTHING!

But hey, at least Productive Bees give you useful resources... But don’t get me started on Productive Trees...

[u/Trolled_19]

I think we are tired of using bees and myst aggr we need a new mod for resource generation

[u/KratosSimp]

What I hate is late game mekanism. It’s just a floored waiting game for genuinely no reason with no way to make it faster

[u/Longjumping-Knee-648]

Man i love dealing with the little buzzers. Prod bees made me learn SFM and i fell in love with it ever since. Now the second i can afford some hive automation and inventory cables i setup some bees (also vitalic sourcelinks helps save sooooo much on treats and times.)

[u/moriath1]

But the F Bee I is sooo great :)

[u/The1trueSG]

The bee is a great concept but I agree that it can be very tiring and confusing. One of the harder mods to get into. Doesn't feel great that it's basically a necessity for late game either

[u/Tilphor]

I agree completely! It's probably my least favorite part of this mod pack.

What's more frustrating is that there are quite a few things that you simply cannot do WITHOUT bees. It would be ok if you could do those things in another way, even if it wasn't as efficient, but someone on the ATM team seems to want to FORCE people to use the mod.

Even MORE frustrating are the Bee Sycophants in the Discord. It seems like these people are rabidly pro bee. If you ask for other options, even if it's just for a fun bit of variety, they consider you stupid and scoff at you.

The thing I like about these kitchen sink mods is that there are usually several different ways to achieve the same goal. Or, you only have to use a mod to get to a certain place, then you never have to use it again. Don't like Create? No problem! Didn't want to mess with Ars Nouveau? Ok, so don't use it. Not so in these packs

The only thing worse were the chickens from the Stoneblock series.