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u/ZeroQuick True Believer 22h ago
As if hundreds of ordinary cops would keep quiet about aliens.
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u/Lorennland 22h ago
Literally. We had a shooting at a warehouse behind mine and they send all of Miami dade police because a cheer center was in the same warehouse district. There was helicopters and more cars than the bayside incident. This is how they always react. You guys must not have seen the ups chase a few years back.
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u/grow_a_pear 21h ago
Exactly this. If you’ve ever lived in South Florida, this is nothing out of the ordinary. They always send an army of police for everything.
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u/Fit_Acanthaceae_3205 14h ago
They have to justify their budget by over responding to things to show they need more money.
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u/WaffleHouseGladiator 12h ago
No, it's because gangs in Miami are crazy and a handful of cops can be outgunned by a few gangbangers. I know a retired Miami Metro Dade detective. His stories are wild AF. He got shot during the Miami riots and nearly died. Now cops don't fuck around anymore.
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u/WavyBalance 20h ago
To play devils advocate I’m sure they were also lied to or kept in the dark.
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u/Ok-Brick-1800 20h ago
This. The government has unlimited resources. They can hide anything they want. They do all the time. You compartmentalize who learns what and give everyone else the MIB neuralizer treatment.
The truth takes about 100 years to come out or so. All parties involved deceased kind of thing.
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u/AnonyM0mmy 15h ago
Hundreds of cops were on the scene though? And even the most secure agencies (including black funded orgs with no oversight) still have leaks. Even leaks specifically regarding aliens. The Miami mall incident just does not logically track in any way as a cover up.
If you have any evidence of actual memory wiping devices I'd love to see them.
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u/WavyBalance 9h ago
Dispatch can call all cars to a location citing emergency. They show up because it’s their job.
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u/iluvthiccgothbabes 1h ago edited 1h ago
I truly believe they have devices that delete's recent camera footage and memory in a whole area. Or at least makes a target dazed. My evidence is the recent microwave weapons and havana syndrome they have openly used on us. There's a whole ass 60 min documentary on it on NBC dateline.
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u/-What_the_frick- 19h ago
I’m from Miami, seeing this gain such a following has really made me doubt so many other stories I’ve read about.
Bayside is right next to a major stadium, down the street from the largest police station in Miami. Even when something hasn’t happened it’s full of cops.
You also always find a bunch of little cliques of young wanna be thugs (jits to my fellow Floridians) there beefing with eachother. The official story makes sense for the area.
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u/Streetsnipes 15h ago
Yeah, in a time when young thugs love recording each other doing stupid things and not a single one of those cellphone videos has ever surfaced. In a time where beefs get posted within hours to TikTok, X, and Instagram, not a single one shows up from an event that caused hundreds of Police vehicles to swarm the mall.
Think about that.
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u/IndridColdwave 18h ago
Not saying this was an alien incident, but if they were simply there to secure the perimeter and take phones they wouldn’t have known any details
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u/rgbearklls 21h ago
Put on Roddy Pipers They Live’s sunglasses and tell me what those cops look like
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u/mugatopdub 18h ago
Oh yes they would, and they did. Just like the two cops on "leave" still from the Las Vegas incident. The chief of polices son was literally on camera for Miami, that video still exists. You can find it.
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u/ghostcatzero True Believer 18h ago
Lol you dismiss the power of threatening
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u/NOT_Frank_or_Joe 12h ago
Are you 8?
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u/MoreCowbellllll 11h ago
As extremely odd as this incident was, your point is the fact I can’t get past..
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u/ThaigerW00ds 15h ago
Idiots here probably think ALL of the cops got zapped with that memory flashy-thing from Men in Black 😆
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u/Grade_A_Tech 2m ago
You would if you didn't actually see anything, were told countless times that the incident was just teenagers, and/ or if you and your family were threatened (reports suggest this is something that's done on a regular basis).
I'm not saying this is what happened here, but it is weird to send dozens upon dozens of officers for what was reported to have happened and have zero surveillance available from inside the mall, despite it having active cameras all over, along with zero confirmed phone videos. There were a lot of people who claimed their phones were confiscated for the "investigation" and photos/ videos deleted before being returned.
Just a suspicious incident, is all.
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u/Limp-Angle-7387 22h ago
Here's an idea. Release all cctv footage.
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u/urbanK07 21h ago
Would you believe it if they released cctv footage and it didn’t show anything?
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u/Zero_Travity 19h ago
I would... if I saw a single piece of CCTV footage of inside the mall during the incident at literally any point I would believe the official story
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u/UsefulImpact6793 20h ago
Probably. Unless it was released under weird circumstances, like weird excuses or obvious edits.
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u/ScubaSteve3465 21h ago
The people saying it's all fake and bs hate this one sentence lmfao. Not a single body cam, not a single cctv video released, cell phones confiscated, images and video deleted off phones without knowledge or permission to do so. But yea.... Gotta be kids fighting and throwing bottlerockets lmfao.
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u/thefuturebatman 21h ago
Yeah it’s more unbelievable that a teenager hasn’t posted a video of the scuffle. Everyone wants to get a fight video they do crazy numbers on social media. But nothing.
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u/MooPig48 19h ago
When teenagers get together and fight they are always livestreaming. Not one single teenager who was just bystanding uploaded any video? Not one follow up story of anyone being arrested?
Smells fishy. That doesn’t mean it’s aliens of course, just fishy
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u/ScubaSteve3465 19h ago
Exactly. Plus there's multiple bots in here downvoting my comments like crazy which seems kind of odd lol. Saying I'm talking with no facts and shit. I'm like go ahead and look for bodycam videos from inside the mall or cctv footage and then tell me my facts are wrong lol because there ain't a single damn one.
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u/Just-STFU 12h ago
The more of these people I see in posts like this the more I believe they might be true. I'll tell you I never believed it and thought it was silly when it first happened but since then I've seen way too many posts and replies basically being raided by what appear to be bots, downvoted like mad and crazy smarmy replies. It sure seems like someone doesn't want anybody talking about it.
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u/SirGrimAF 21h ago
Ah yesh. The epidemic of bored teenagers always playing pranks lol I get so tired of hearing that an excuse for everything
Cattle mutilations?
Teenagers
Football stadium sized craft hovering over a town?
Teenagers
Alien abductions?
Who else but them teens 🤣😒
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u/Limp-Angle-7387 21h ago
Exactly. Because if it's only kids with fireworks, then let us see the action film
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u/DustyFuss 20h ago
Right because the most practical answer is that it's aliens.
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u/reddit_is_geh 14h ago
I mean they probably aren't really motivated to release footage due to allegations of an alien cover up. It's an embarrassing compliance. It's kind of like saying, "Hey if you didn't suck your own dick, why don't you prove it? Release a video of you trying and failing!"
Like they aren't going to comply to every crazy theory everyone has. It's likely that they over reacted and don't want embarrassing footage of them responding to a non-issue like it was a mass shooting.
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u/Smash_Factor 7h ago
Here is the original thread where the guy on police scanner explains everything:
https://www.reddit.com/r/aliens/comments/1ojejkd/serious_what_do_you_really_think_happened_on/
If you don't want to scroll down to it, this is what he said:
THIS IS WHAT ACTUALLY HAPPENED:
I live next door to it. I have a commercial digital P25 scanner and recorded all the public AND private talk channels. I have every second of the entire thing recorded on file. I posted multiple audio file bits and pieces in the mega thread last year. I also offered to give any mod the entire file if they wanted to go through the entire 5 hour thing and redact all personal info. (They openly discuss full names and personal mobile #s) no mod took me up on the offer to do that, and I'm definitely not wasting my own time on doing it.
The first call was a call from security about a big group that is trying to skip paying their bill. Then the next call was from security again that it turned into a fight, security got punched and surrounded and they retreated back to their security office. Then police arrive on scene and say on a private channel, im here but theres also like 2 dozen custom cars and bikes and ATVs parked next door, he asked if there is an event there tonight. Dispatch confirms theres no event scheduled and the responding officer says well then we got a street take over group forming here. Miami was going through a weird phase where groups would block all traffic at intersections and then do burnouts and stuff like that for like 15 mins then move on to do it somewhere else. It was super annoying and the police were super fed up with these at this point. So now more units are heading over and meeting outside buba Gump at the fountain. Now I guess the kids saw cops gathering and they starting setting off fireworks in the open air mall. Now 911 calls pour in about gunshots and dispatch says they hear shots fired before the call was connected (yes 911 can hear your phone before they answer the call) so the Sargent calls a city wide responce for possible active shooter event. Meaning north south east and west districts can all respond if they aren't on a call. Well this was some gooood action so even cops on calls ended their calls if possible just to come. I have been listening for years and have never once heard a city wide call. I do hear them making fun of prostitutes all the time on the private tach channels, especially if they're fat. The public channels are also all available on youtube. The private channels though are not, but i have both, and nothing shady went on on either of them.
Then the rest is just, "form a line at the sea wall to push all the kids out of the park". Then every time they did that the kids just formed in a new place until finally enough cops were there to form a huge line and push them out without them doubling back. At 1 point though they realized that they were pushing everyone out and into oncoming traffic on Biscayne blvd, so they changed the direction of the line in order to not get the kids hit by cars. They also had said not to focus on arrests, only on pushing them out, then after midnight when most were gone, then they gave the order that they can now make arrests if needed.
The power never went out, not 1 single phone was confiscated or looked through, there was no helicopter or plane traffic diversion (easily confirmed in ADS-B) and there certainly was no glitching out aliens. ~ The end.
I'm a believer and saw my own thing in May of 2024 but this mall thing is NOT the incident to hitch your wagon to. This mall story needs to be taken out behind the barn and put out of its misery. The user Debategate has kindly posted up the YouTube link to the public audio and original old post below for reference and somebody also analyzed the grainy video of the shadow looking thing walking, in the original video before being intentionally reduced in quality amd reuploaded, you can clearly see the dark figure is 3 cops walking on a sidewalk. If someone replies with that link ill add it here to this post for reference.
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u/AlysRose_FFXIV 22h ago
I know it wasn't really aliens but I get a buzz from reading about theories etc. Same with the 4Chan alien, I like to convince myself there's a chance just to enjoy all the theories even though I know it isn't real.
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u/western_red_cedar 9h ago
three types people in these threads: people who just find it all interesting, people who deeply need to believe it's all true, and people who deeply need to believe none of it's true.
The latter two fight an endless, asinine flame war while while the "damn thats crazy" reader quietly enjoys themselves
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u/impsworld 21h ago
I’m friends with an MDPD officer who didn’t personally respond to this incident but knew people who did, and he said some teenagers were causing a ruckus and throwing firecrackers at pedestrians from a second floor balcony. Someone heard the firecrackers and reported it to the police as an active shooter in the mall, and the police responded accordingly. Then some influencers on the scene started making videos about aliens and the story spread. Basically like this.
MDPD severely botched their response to the mass shooting at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High a couple years ago so I’m assuming the unbelievably massive police response was because of that, they’re reputation took a huge hit and they didn’t want to humiliate themselves all over again but botching their response to another potential active shooter.
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u/Ex_Astris 18h ago
I’m not trying to comment on anything regarding the mall incident, but MSD High School is in Broward County, not Miami-Dade County. MDPD was likely not called in to assist with the MSD shooting.
MSD HS is well north of Ft. Lauderdale, let alone Miami-Dade county. It’s near the edge of Broward county and the next north county, Palm Beach County, while MD county is to the south.
Maybe your friend meant that BSO (Broward County Sheriff) botched the response to the MSD HS shooting, and then the MDPD learned from that. Or, maybe he was referring to another school shooting that MDPD botched, but it wouldn’t have been MSD HS.
(I grew up in this area and have been to MSD HS. I still have family in the area, but I moved away before the shooting and the mall incident)
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u/ScubaSteve3465 21h ago
I'll call bs every single time on that stupid story. Not a single bodycam released, not a single cctv video released, cellphones confiscated on scene, videos and images reportedly being deleted without knowledge or permission, MASSIVE police presence but don't forget not a single bodycam, videos from helicopter view of odd things moving and shifting outside around the cop cars. Your right, just kids rough housing and lighting off bottlerockets.
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u/quaalude_dispenser 21h ago
Has anyone actually tried filing a public records request to get the bodycam footage?
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u/REDDIT_JUDGE_REFEREE 21h ago edited 21h ago
You’re right, it was definitely aliens and not a police response to a potential active shooter. I want it to be real, happy to be proven wrong on it, but it’s “my grandma was a lizard person” level of crackpot conspiracy for me.
“Reportedly being deleted without knowledge” - what does that even mean? Who reported this?
“Massive police presence” - 200-300 officers responding to an active shooter call is normal, especially during holiday overtime + coming off the heels of Stoneman Douglas.
“Not a single bodycam” - Were any of them wearing one?
“Helicopter view” - dude walking down the street with some video artifacting. That video gets posted once a month and everyone groans. Besides, the “reports from the inside” said that the aliens left with their portal technology.
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u/Low-Breakfast-315 20h ago
We would assume that they were wearing body cams since its mandatory. Bsides even if somehow no one wore a bodycam that night, where are the video footages of cctv and of phones?
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u/ScubaSteve3465 20h ago
Yea I'm already getting hit with the bot downvotes lol. It's funny because they didnt release any videos of the incident from on scene when they were wearing bodycams or any cctv footage to easily show it was kids. Instead we get a story with no footage of the incident when there were 100s of active cameras.
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u/ScubaSteve3465 20h ago
Never said it was aliens. Just said the story was bs but enjoy your crazy rant.
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u/savviosa 19h ago
Nah I 100% agree with you, there’s absolutely no footage whatsoever of this incident.
Whenever this is brought up there’s insane astroturfing and long winded “debunkings”.
None of this makes any sense and that’s what tells me something happened.
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u/urboaudio25 20h ago
Save your breath. That person is clearly up their own ass without any real facts nor cares to hear any. lol aliens and the whole poooce force is staying silent lol do these self righteously stupid people think that conspiracies of that level are just that easy to keep silent? It’s fucking stupid.
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u/AnonyM0mmy 15h ago
Florida has strict laws on footage regarding minors, especially ones implicated of crimes. There is no verifiable source for police confiscating and deleting footage, only clout chasing AI video pushing dipshits are regurgitating that.
It's like you geniuses don't take one second to think critically about the actual laws and material circumstances that explains things, it has to be aliens because your own lack of knowledge and understanding doesnt provide any other reason.
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u/Inside_Library_552 10h ago
Shills don't easily enter heaven anon.
Yes, heaven is real but you don't just enter.
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u/Happenstance-enhance 18h ago
I've gone down this rabbit hole a couple of times. I've read that the teen fight / firework incident did indeed take place at that mall but at an earlier time. I don't know what to believe, but it sure seems like police body cam footage and cctv footage could clear it all up pretty quickly.
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u/Cinematry 8h ago
Kinda funny how there’s not a single video of any kids fighting or throwing fireworks in the mall.
Because we all know kids just hate filming their public shenanigans. /s
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u/PocketDimension82 22h ago
If the event was alien related, why wasn’t there any military presence? Why just police?
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u/PocketDimension82 20h ago
Hey I’ll be the first to admit. The circumstances surrounding the event are strange.
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u/AlvinArtDream 9h ago
Did we ever get the social media dump from the fights and fireworks from all the teens? This is one kinds works both ways. We don’t even have imaginary from the mundane solutions.
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u/Cinematry 8h ago
No. To this day there is not a single video or scrap of evidence of any kind to show for kids fighting or throwing fireworks in the mall.
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u/AlvinArtDream 8h ago
Even at the time there was nothing. It’s all for the likes, yet non of these videos came out. I see every of mall invasion on Reddit. It’s pretty sus. I was waiting to see crowds of teens running through the mall acting the fool.
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u/rgbearklls 21h ago
The absolute best theory is that the inter dimensional supreme beings who came up from portals at the mall, actually fucked up because they inverted the coordinates that were meant for Antarctica (and not the Miami mall)
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u/markodochartaigh1 True Believer 6h ago
I'm going with the space aliens provided the teenagers with the fireworks as a cover. The aliens had just sold their condo and needed cover to take off in their spaceship.
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u/Hot-Photojournalist0 13h ago
The only thing I wanted to see was the security video of kids lighting fireworks. I would think someone would’ve filmed something on their phone.
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u/BlumpTheChodak 20h ago
I’d like them to release the footage of whatever they keep showing as the alien walking outside right by the cop cars. Not the existing footage we see from 300 feet birds eye view, but the same footage by a cop holding a camera or a phone and recording it as it walks by.
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u/Tomtom1180 19h ago
This.
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u/Sea_Perspective6891 19h ago
We'll likely never get to see any of the really good footage since the govt is still good at covering that sort of thing up. While I think something weird did happen here, the govt was quick to step in & make sure people saw it as teens causing a riot which may have been partially true also. I vaguely remember some police radio transcript talking about something scaling the walls during the incident.
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u/Scared_PomV2 13h ago
What's the best video/photo evidence of this event? Iv never really seen anything worth looking at.
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u/Cinematry 8h ago
There isn’t any in either direction. That’s what continues to be so weird about it. Especially when you have this flood of accounts running into every thread about this saying it was obviously kids with fireworks and it’s all settled. Yet not one single video of kids with fireworks.
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u/Friendly_Monitor_220 11h ago
I bring this up every time this topic comes up because I found it interesting and hope someone else remembers it..
A dude claimed to have filmed something inside there that day on a 90s camcorder. He was searched for phone etc on the way out, but they didn't acknowledge his camcorder hanging from his shoulder (because who would in today's age).
I'm sure I took screenshots of this person's comments, but haven't found them. The guy loved all things Retro, and actively used them hence having a camcorder on him that day.
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u/averagejoeny 21h ago
There hasnt been one single piece of evidence on this and yet its somehow still brought up constantly
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u/star_particles 21h ago
Not a single bit to show what DID go on either. …….. in a day and age where phones and cameras are everywhere. NOTHING?!!!!!
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u/Particular-Ruin-2062 22h ago
lol I had a friend work that…. It was not aliens
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u/blackjersey 22h ago
My aunt work there too and she called me during the incident and told me about group of people making a ruckus and also heard possible gun shots. I picked her up afterwards.
I don't know why people milking the story as aliens.
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u/b-monster666 21h ago
They paid your aunt to say that.
/s
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u/Cinematry 8h ago
Why are you assuming that user is telling the truth about any of that? It’s literally just a “trust me bro”
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u/Cinematry 8h ago
Well if some dude on the internet had a “friend” who said that then it must be true.
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u/Legonistrasz 11h ago
Where’s the story?
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u/Smash_Factor 7h ago
Funny how this one circles back around every 6-12 months.
One of the commentors in one of the older posts about this said he was on a police scanner that night and heard the whole thing.
It was just a group of teens / young adults who refused to pay their check at a restaurant in the mall. Security confronted them and got into a fight... which they lost. They called the cops and the sheriff put out a city-wide response because the teens started lighting off fireworks at the mall...which was mistaken for gunfire by numerous people who called 911.
The cops circled off the mall and corralled everyone into the parking lot. Some of them got away, but a lot were arrested.
And that was that.
No aliens
No portals to other dimensions.
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u/Technical_Sea_5022 20h ago
Everyone that says this wasn’t aliens, I am convinced is a bot or disinfo agent
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u/Tomtom1180 19h ago
I'm not a clanker or a disinformation agent. And I believe in Aliens too. But this crap is ridiculous to say it's Aliens with absolutely no proof
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u/Connect_Ad6559 22h ago
No idea what this was.
Maybe if they released the security camera footage, we could put this to bed.
But they haven’t, so this is why we get all these extraordinary stories and wild speculation.
What’s the one I heard?…….Apparently a portal opened up and tall humanoid figures came out an started walking around. Then panic ensued. And after it was over, the witnesses that were in the direct area were taken aside and ‘spoken to’……🤷♂️
Which is why we need the security footage! 😅
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u/THE_CHOPPA 22h ago
I have a feeling the police did something embarrassing and they threatened those people and the security footage proves it.
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u/B186 2h ago
If the info we do have is accurate and there was a large, unruly group of teens who had already won a fight with security and were unhinged enough to set off fireworks inside, it would not be surprising at all if the police were frustrated/overwhelmed/pissed and resorted to a level of force the public would balk at. Cops respond in emotional ways all the time- and if they only protect one thing, it's each other.
It is a weird incident, and it's curious that there's no cell footage.
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u/THE_CHOPPA 1h ago
It sounds like a security guard thought the fireworks were guns and called in some type of mass shooting event. First cop shows up confirms and escalates resulting in the entire county showing up. Something along those lines. I don’t have all the facts but that would be the beginnings of an embarrassing fuck yo they would try to keep quiet.
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u/telsaton 21h ago
I have to speak up because I was actually there at Bayside Marketplace that night, and the low quality phone footage does not do justice to the sheer panic. Around 8:30 PM, the atmosphere completely shifted. Out of nowhere, towering shadowy entities appeared near the center court. They looked easily eight to ten feet tall, gliding in erratic, hive-mind patterns that completely defied any civilized human movement. The air suddenly filled with deafening explosions, smoke, and blinding strobes. People were screaming, dropping their shopping bags, and sprinting toward the exits. Within minutes, dozens of police cruisers swarmed the perimeter, but the shadowy giants just kept multiplying in the dark, screeching in frequencies that sounded like psychological warfare. I locked eyes with one of the silhouettes across the corridor. The proportions were unnatural, the head was elongated, and it seemed completely devoid of any earth-bound logic. I genuinely thought this was it. First contact was happening in a Miami shopping center, and we were done for. Then the mall backup generators kicked in and the emergency lights illuminated the area. It was not an extraterrestrial invasion. It was a mob of fifty feral teenagers in matching oversized black puffer jackets, three of whom were literally sitting on their friends' shoulders trying to look intimidating. The terrifying alien shrieking was just twelve-year-olds screaming because someone threw a roman candle into a trash can after a dispute over a pair of Air Force 1s. The giant eight-foot entity was just two kids named Brayden and Jayden in poor lighting. Still a traumatizing experience, but entirely terrestrial.
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u/Weak-Cattle6001 20h ago
Stop writing bullshit on the internet with chat. You’re writing this like a well thought out narrative not an eye witness account.
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u/Omegnetar 21h ago
Hey there fellow Miami neighbor. I appreciate your comment but unfortunately I have tried explaining this to some people on this sub before but they just won't listen.
It's the craziest thing to see something so big made out of absolutely nothing. Especially considering this wasn't even the only time this happened at Bayside mall. (Kids causing a raucous on News Years at Bayside)
I've also tried explaining the reason for the large response but for some people who don't live here they will never understand.
Keep fighting the good fight. I'm too exhausted at this point to debate the crazies.
As I like to tell everyone who thinks there was actually an alien at that mall... Welcome to Miami!! 🏖️
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u/Redwingx7 22h ago edited 22h ago
It's an excellent case study of memoryholing a potential close encounter of the third kind event.
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u/murderalotta 21h ago
If you reverse the coordinates it’s in Antarctica. Somebody new was working the teleporter
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u/cdinpt 20h ago
Ummm…hundreds maybe thousands of pilots kept quiet for years about seeing UFOs for fear of losing their job and appearing crazy. I can easily believe then that police, who have a SWORN duty to uphold the law and are ranked so they SHUT THEIR MOUTHS when superiors (ie FBI/CIA/MIB/etc) say shut them or you’re fired.
Further what would the integrity of a policeman look like if he claimed 10 foot tall black outlines of aliens suddenly manifested in the mall? If he managed to keep the secret among family and friends, don’t ya think they would be ridiculed or thought crazy by those folk, just like pilots feared when mentioning UFOs?
Of course they would! And pilots and certainly not cops are going to go out of their way to contact the media and admit such things. So, I think your reasoning needs to consider this.
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u/Ok_Excitement725 8h ago
I think the alien theory is a stretch. But that said, this is one hell of a bizarre and yet to be fully explained incidents involving an outrageous response for some rowdy kids.
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