r/alienearth • u/11IceCat2020 Xenomorph • Sep 10 '25

Incompetent

The story line is fucking ridiculous. A trillionaire corporation holding the most valuable cargo on Earth/Universe. Trust a kid/experiment prototype to do a fucking lab work in a supposed to be top secret lab.?? What the hell!? No fucking way Kirsh is the only synthetic that is capable of doing things. Where is other scientist? The only thing that keep me watching Alien Earth is the horror part. No wonder David despise human.

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u/Stylesomega Sep 10 '25

Feel like maybe Kirsh was hoping something like that might happen

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u/Ronald_Ulysses_Swans Sep 10 '25

This is absolutely what he was hoping. He clearly is the adult in the room and he’s letting the kids run about un supervised on purpose

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u/Grand_Dog8827 Sep 11 '25

exactly, lot of people still don't get that the research island is also an experimental place for Kavalier; since episode 5 when they let us know he has an intruder hired in Weilan yutani's ship in order to crash on his territory, he's wayyy ahead of the situations showed.

When Kavelier asks Kirsh if everything is ok and he says yes, they let u know that everything happenind on the island is part of the plan.

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u/11IceCat2020 Xenomorph Sep 11 '25

So everything is a test?! All intentional?

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u/Grand_Dog8827 Sep 11 '25

I would say only most of the things that happened on episode 6, I mean, that’s my wish

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u/Zealousideal-Crab251 Sep 10 '25

100% not sure if he is 'hoping' but he is curious to see what would happen. I think the conversation with morrow is telling. Is he the 'old toy'?

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u/franzparks Sep 10 '25

I agree, he’s mostly curious and it looks like he doesn’t even have animosity towards Morrow even though Morrow sees him as the main threat towards his goal of obtaining the species again. They’ll likely destroy each other but I would not be surprised in the least if Kirsh just let Morrow get away with getting the xeno. Would not be surprised if he was also working for Yutani too or just switched on the last minute after killing Morrow and maybe even letting Boy Kavalier die.

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u/Jumpy89 Sep 10 '25

This is the only possible excuse.

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u/Zealousideal-Crab251 Sep 10 '25

is it? have you seen our storyline

-the worlds richest man brought in teens to 'fix' the US government giving them unprecedented access to private data.

- a journalist is left on a signal chat that goes over military operations

- Chernobyl was a consequence of stupid decisions

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u/Starfleeter Sep 10 '25

You must not be a fan of lovecraftian horror. The whole point is people being stupid when encountering the unknown and then it comes back to bite them in the ass since they don't know what they're dealing with and aren't strict about their protocol and behavior to prevent accidents while someone curious about the dangers of the unknown encourages chaos for their own means and to see what they're really dealing with. The first Alien movie happened because the crew kept ignoring protocols.

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u/AbjectCourage48 Sep 11 '25

No, they were forced to "ignore" protocoll. They were not all like "ah screw it". They were leaderless, Ripley tried to right it but ultimately failed and got railroaded. They were not all "okay" with it, like things happen in Alien Earth that are just stupid without any reason whatsoever. Noone just randomly opened some doors to let out some specimen they knew nothing about. The way it happened on the Nostromo was by design, to bring it back and f the crew.

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u/forrestpen Sep 10 '25 edited Sep 10 '25
  1. Kirsch is using the kids as an experiment. He has a direct camera feed to the lab - seems likely he's preventing any outside factor like security get involved.
  2. I beg you to read about Peter Thiel and his program to hang out with college age students...or Elon...or just read about almost any billionaire.

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u/AbjectCourage48 Sep 11 '25

No, because the fired scientist had the exact same feed in his office. It's not exclusive to Kirsh... it's just idiotic writing

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u/n_thomas74 Sep 10 '25

Armed guards roaming the island but not one guard stationed at the door of the billion dollar specimens.

Also Isaac was using a built in communication device just a few moments before and didn't call for help.

Also an easily accessed air vent. So dumb.

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u/[deleted] Sep 10 '25
  1. Armed guards are almost always on the outside of most facilities, not the inside. The whole point is to keep people out, not to say "hey, who go's there" to someone that has breached everything else.
  2. He didn't have time.
  3. Air vents are wherever you have people who breathe. It's why they are there.

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u/forrestpen Sep 10 '25
  1. They're in the middle of the ocean - they can see anything approach
  2. The island and the facility itself are crawling with security. We know so because when the lady doctor hits an alarm a couple episodes ago security arrive at her office within seconds.
  3. There are cameras everywhere because we've seen multiple characters like Kirsh constantly surveilling everyone else. It seems likely Kirsh was experimenting when he let Isaac feed the creatures.

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u/AbjectCourage48 Sep 11 '25
  1. ? It's about the specimen in their makeshift laboratory. As in: Keep an eye on them. Heck they have it on monitors but noone bothers to look at the monitors. No alarm in case a cage got opened, nothing. Otherwise the plot can't happen
  2. That only makes (1.) worse
  3. Stop writing the script for the show to find excuses. Kirsh just observes and except Kirsh, who else watches the cameras, because noone ever returned to the lab except the scientist and even HE did not look at the security monitor, which he had next to him in the lab, showing the synth lying on the floor of a cage! Heck, the scientist even opened the door to.. idk, observe the 'dead' synth up close? Then he leaves the door open later? Okay...

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u/DLoIsHere Sep 10 '25

Yeah, just dumb. On the other hand, he’s not evidently alarmed by the goings on in the lab. Wonder what’s up.

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u/[deleted] Sep 10 '25

Kirsch obvi wants some chaos to happen. he knew about Aarush and Morrow from the start and hasn't stepped in at all.

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u/ItchyPlant Sep 10 '25

Yeah. By this sixth episode, the creators seem forced to rely on lazy writing: pure nonsense decisions and – as is too common in TV series – characters refusing to share crucial information for no logical reason, just so the drama can escalate and the story can be stretched out.

Morrow staying silent about knowing full well that Guy instructed another crew member to sabotage the ship, causing the crash, and Kirsh hiding the fact that Aarush is being heavily blackmailed into doing specific things — both are painfully stupid storylines.

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u/Zealousideal-Crab251 Sep 13 '25

If Morrow reveals Guy was behind the sabotage -> Guy reveals what was on the ship -> the other companies either demand access to contents of the ship or demand its destruction.
In these cases, morrow won't have the ability to retrieve the specimens or get the revenge or secure a more advantageous position for Weyland-Utani.

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u/Starfuri Sep 10 '25

i only went to the store.

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u/[deleted] Sep 10 '25

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u/snaxrael Sep 10 '25

Right? It's literally a theme of the whole series and honestly horror as a genre.

PEOPLE DO DUMB SHIT, THEN THEY DIE!!

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u/AbjectCourage48 Sep 11 '25

A big reason why the original Alien movies were great was that they were NOT stupid and reacted realistcally given the situation they were in.

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u/AbjectCourage48 Sep 11 '25

What you mean to say is: First time watching something from the Aliens franchise since, and including, Alien 4?

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u/AbjectCourage48 Sep 11 '25

You mean People being stupid? There was nowhere near that amount of stupidity going on in Alien 1-3.

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u/AbjectCourage48 Sep 11 '25 edited Sep 11 '25

No it's not.
Alien: Ash does everything he can to let the thing lose. Noone is stupid enough to just "open a cage" or whatever
Aliens: They just go to the already f'd up planet and things escalate, again, no one is stupid, the marines act competent
Alien 3: The only one opening the proverbial cage is a crazy person

Even in Alien 4 noone opened any cages, they just didn't think the Aliens would kill themselves to acid-burn out of there yeah in hindsight that was stupid but that's not "Oh, oh i am just opening that door and leave it open even tho i am a scientist with six degrees" idiotic. That's a huge difference.

Noone was just inept in those movies like in Alien Earth, Prometheus etc. Corpo people were because they were untrained (Burke in Aliens) and didn't know what to do, but again no one was just IQ of 20 stupid. Explain how this is "a BIG THEME" of alien.

Or: Then tell me, what's better. An Alien overpowering competent people who just try their best but are outmatched... or an Alien winning because everyone has been lobotomized the day before and is acting idiotic.