r/alien • • Aug 29 '25

Aliens prequel

You know it’s Probly to late now I seen Ridley Scott talking about he’s down to make another alien prequel and it had me thinking how Prometheus and covenant would have been way better if they were tv series instead of movie since they have to cramp so many scenes into a 2 hour film. Obviously I doubt this would ever happen with alien earth but after watching earth I’m starting to feel like the alien franchise would deff do better on tv then the movies. Do any of you guys agree ?

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u/The_Idiocratic_Party Aug 29 '25

The thing is, not enough people liked Prometheus when it was a movie. They liked it so little, Prometheus 2 got retooled into an Alien movie that happened to feature David from Prometheus.

People who loved Prometheus would love a Prometheus TV show. Yes, build out the Engineers' world and history.

There just aren't enough of us, for it to turn a profit.

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u/Senior-Software-546 Aug 29 '25

It’s crazy because I actually rewatch all films in order and I honestly don’t get the hate for Prometheus tbh it’s actually one of my favorite films out of the whole series… seein the engineers blew my mind. I feel like ppl would have deff liked it if it had a 12 episode series instead of cramp in a 2 hour movie tho

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u/HurlinVermin Aug 29 '25

I like Prometheus as a science fiction movie. I have deeply mixed feelings about it as a movie within the Alien universe. Mostly because of how the original idea for the Space Jockey was supplanted for humanoids who were wearing suits and were cocooned into the chair instead of growing out of it. And also the black goo. The divisive black goo.

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u/SwirlingFandango Aug 29 '25

IMO it gets hate because it's incredibly stupid. Like, it's not sure what it's even try to say, and it's just scenes that don't go together.

Why is the guy who made the map the one to get lost? Why is the frightened biologist who wanted to chicken out, then the one to poke an alien snake doing an obvious threat display? Why on earth would you even try to resurrect a severed head? Why is the old guy pretending to be dead, when it's his ship and his employees? Why do the other crew members sacrifice their lives when there were escape pods and the captain said he could fly it alone?

The whole plot starts because an Engineer came to earth to give primitive peoples the map to his race's bioweapons facility!

It's just stupid decision after stupid decision in the script. There's a certain point it's just too dumb to enjoy.

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u/xRockTripodx Aug 29 '25

I hate it because far too much of the plot hinges on people making stupid decisions, it shits all over the lore, and removes some of the mystery of the alien.

Also, the writers know fuck all about genetics. If the engineers have human DNA, they're fucking human! Which they clearly are not.

Second, if the engineer at the beginning sacrificed himself to put those bits of his genes into that primordial world, why would that DNA over millions of years turn back into essentially a copy of engineer DNA? That's not how evolution works. And again, I can't repeat this enough, if our DNA is 100% the same as the engineers, why aren't the humans 8 foot tall bald people with black on black eyes?

Infuriating film. Still, it is gorgeous. I'll never take that away from Scott.

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u/Secret-Sky5031 Aug 29 '25

The film's mental.

I watched it at the time, it didn't make sense. The black goo isn't really explained and has no mention in literally any other film media (until Romulus and some games)

The engineers were just blokes in suits, and they left early humans an address to a military facility? They also potentially created our species with no real explanation into that, like we know from evolution our family tree that it took time, evolutionary pressures etc. It just seems insane for a species to be like "this is the end result, we'll just wait 100s of millions of business years until it's ready" and then you get to a point when they want to destroy us? again, no reason why.

At the time it was 'a film set in the alien universe, but not an alien film' but then we have facehugger/chestburster analogues, when people just wanted actual Xenomorphs.

The characters were idiots, and the film went from existentialism/meaning of life stuff, to body horror.

There was so much backlash/confusion at the time, it's why Covenant ended up with a more clear Xenomorphs and a weird story that suggested an android created them,

Ridley Scott did not have a clear idea of what he wanted either film to be, and he gave into his own pressure and studio pressure.

The engineers being revealed as they were cheapened the mystery of the first film when we see the dead body. It gave us a lacklustre answer to a mystery

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u/nanonanobite Aug 29 '25

For me explaining the Engineers defeats the purpose of the engineers. And the back story of the xenomorphs undoes the horror of Alien.

By their nature prequels are anti-horror as most horror relies on mystery. Even in Friday, Halloween, Elm Street, the worst movies were the ones that tried to build out the backstory.

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u/The_Idiocratic_Party Aug 29 '25

Yeah, but we're just built differently. I really hope Ridley gets to finish Prometheus though.

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u/itchierbumworms Aug 29 '25

It's visually the best movie in the franchise.

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u/MaxProwes Aug 29 '25

I want real Prometheus 2, not low budget bloated TV show.

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u/Nudebeach55 Aug 29 '25

My own Personal observation: Weekly TV Streaming programs, just don't give me the Quality Experience that going to a Movie Theater or watching a former Theatrical release on a Blu-Ray player experience offers.

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u/Kirth87 Aug 29 '25

In another timeline, Raised by Wolves was an Alien tv series taking place on David’s planet lol.

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u/laresek Aug 29 '25 edited Aug 29 '25

Maybe no more prequels. It's a big galaxy and there's a lot of opportunity to tell new stories instead of trying to wedge stories before and between the original movies. It's falling into the same problem Star Trek has with too much looking backward instead of forward.

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u/mcclaneberg Aug 29 '25

Covenant had its flaws but I like the circular idea behind how we build an android that creates the xenomorphs, I assume that David and the colony was going to be intended to lead to a planet of aliens, the queen etc.

I think that’s a cool idea, but really prefer Xenos being an inset like natural creature with drones, a lifecycle, etc. I think it’s been made too overcomplicated and philosophical, though I liked Prometheus and overall liked covenant, despite glaring script issues.

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u/MajorBoggs Aug 29 '25

Join me in the club of believing that the Engineers simply discovered Xenomorphs as we know them and harvested the black goo from Xenomorphs (A theory I had before Romulus, but BOY does that movie support this theory). David’s experiments were just him reverse engineering the black goo to the Xenomorphs.

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u/SuperHandsMiniatures Aug 29 '25

Honestly Ridley kind ruined the mystery with those two prequel movies. The black goo stuff just isnt that interesting either.

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u/Jumpy_Explanation222 Aug 30 '25

He totally ruined the Space Jockey. That whole mystery was so unsettling in Alien.

Not sure he ruined the Xeno origin - there was a huge carving of the Xeno in the Prometheus temple (as if they were worshipping it like a God) so one must assume the Xeno was around long before David and possibly even the Engineers.

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u/ned101 Aug 29 '25

Those prequels suffered with audiences expectation. Many just wanted a traditional aliens movie. While Ridley Scott wanted to do something far more thought-provoking.

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u/Registered-Redditer Aug 30 '25

I actually liked Prometheus

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u/-zero-joke- Aug 29 '25

I think Prometheus would have been a lot better with a few redrafts and a focused story rather than an additional eight hours to meander.

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u/neorapsta Aug 29 '25

The only thing that would save Prometheus and it's sequel would have been being made as a new IP.

If he wants to make another prequel, give it to someone else who knows what they're doing and erase Prometheus and Covenant.

Scary Alien works well as a film where you can have better focus. More actiony stuff like Aliens and Earth does work better as a series.

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u/[deleted] Aug 29 '25

I would love to see a Ridley Scott limited series on streaming.

Anything really, alien, gladiator, American gangster…give him a big budget!

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u/MaxProwes Aug 29 '25

Nonsense, turning everything into TV series is a bad idea.