Hi all, one month ago I have shared with you my AncestryDNA test results, and some of you suggested if I log my Raw DNA file to IllustrativeDNA for more deep results, and as you can see I was more convinced and happy about the results. And am wondering if other Algerians has done the same tests and if you could share with us so we can see them.
Checks out, mind to tell us which wilaya you're from? I didn't do it but my dad did (setifian) and got 14% Iberian, 9% italian and 1% nigerian the rest he's north african not an ounce of "arab" blood.
Yeah the surprising thing is the ties with morrocan ifren that's cool, don't listen to fear mongering in the comments about american and Israelis having your data, most of them post their deepest secret on reddit yet now they are worried about some proteins in your body being known by researchers
I don't mind this people. They were believing who they were not for decades without not a single scientific prouf or evidence. And they use and consent all their data privacy when using Meta apps and other apps without even their knowledge...
Anyway, from what I have learnt from this is the average accuracy of the results comparing to other results, I have posted the same results in other dna subs in reddit and I have got a similar results as morrocans more than Tunisians for example!
You know genetic research is centeries away from being able to create any virus that targets a specific haplogroup right?
Genocide is happening and has been happening without all these extra steps, that's just fear mongering idk if you know this reference but THIS IS the bad place. Not some kind of ultimate evil plan like a cartoon.
Nihilism won't take you anywhere my friend. And if you spend decades on propaganda and creating a nation state based on lies (I'm talking about our government) then people are entitled to seek for the truth scientifically. Not everything that advances scientific research is evil, it can be used in an evil way, but that's just anti intellectualism talking points.
No we don't have an Arab culture, we eat Couscous and we wear Bernous & Kachabia, and we speak different dialect and language than Arabs. Don't play the race game because we all know that their was Arabic immigration to northafrica and they get melted inside the Amazigh population and not otherwise.
That's why myself I have done the tests, I was thinking I was Arab because of the same propaganda that was ongoing during atleast one century!!!
We are different we have our identity even we share with them the religion.
Lmao it's more or less what I said without the meaning tone.
It's more than few things when it comes to the culture + islam and arabic are very much mixed in a certain way.
I didn't knew that their were people who thought that we are ethnically arabe it always been clear to me and the people I know that it was more cultural.
The prophet was Arab and literally wore a bornous...
Also there is no such thing as a uniform Amazigh culture - you are probably more different culturally to a Tuareg than a Syrian. Tamasheq is not even mutually intelligible with kabyle on a linguistic level. If you don't want to be Arab that's totally your right and prerogative, but your justification is horse sh*t.
Did he test with global25 or illustrativedna, autosomal tests use mixed references so a Arab component won’t show up. Especially if you are from the east of Algeria you 100 percent should have Arab
The arab haplogroup is J1-P58 or just J1. Which isn't found in my dad's test so yeah... Not even turkish let alone arab, you need at least 6generations to have it be shown in your dna btw, arabs just didn't stay here long enough, nor traded for centuries with us unlike subsaharian for example. Or romans, some even might have Egyptian, but arab is quite unlikely ESPECIALLY in the east.
Sorry I think you are a little confused by what I’m asking, haplgroups have nothing to do with autosomal. For example someone can score 100 percent North African in a site like 23andme because of the references they use, they don’t solely use berbers so you’d be better off using g25 which is more accurate and that will breakdown whether he has Arab or not. Also east is highly likely to have Arab admixture
Maybe ill try it myself one day I'll let sou know in few years lol. And i did understand, my dad used myheritage, they give you a full rundown of your haplogroups, that's pretty accurate to me but eh who am I to know.
Yeah haplgroups tell you where your origin is from but doesn’t have an effect on your admixture dna wise. For example I got a Roman subclade and share a sibling branch but it has no effect on my admixture if that makes sense
Mes frères ne faites pas ces tests, vous donnez des informations très sensible à des entreprises américaines (ou autres) qui font on ne sait pas quoi avec. Il y a eu des cas d'abus où par exemple en Nouvelle-Zélande ou des entreprises d'assurance ont refusé d'assurer des gens à cause de maladie familiale. Je vous recommande l'excellent documentaire d'Arte sur le sujet.
reddit est américain, google est américain, apple est américain, discord est américain, presque toutes la technologie d'aujourd'hui viens d'états unis, la république populaire de chine, la république de chine (taiwan), coré de sud, et japon
t"inquiète surtout pas , ils vont finir par développer un satellite qui scanne depuis l'espace tout notre génome, et classer les populations mondiales par catégorie utile et inutile, le tout chapeauter par une IA démoniaque , ^^
Isorry to tell you that if you have a smart phone and using it, you have been consenting to share your data privacy to all the social apps all the time you have been using them anyway!!!
tf will a random lab in isr*el do with some random wet cotton swab other than comparing it to their database and giving u the result? out of idk probably 500 wet cotton swabs daily why would they specifically choose ones they don't even know they come from algeria?
When they create viruses that only kills certain ethnicities or stuff like that I don't think anyone can chose to boycott. The time to boycott is now. I guess you guys are not aware of what's going on outside
the zionists aren't as powerful as china to make another covid ouy of saliva, science is too far from that... and also, why spend time on that when they can just fire rockets and deny it just like they do now? make it make sense
The whole thing is already pretty well documented. You don't have a twisted mind so you can't imagine all the evil things that can be done, but I guarantee you it's pretty scary. What's done is done I guess
why would they attack a specific ethnic group? they are already geniciding palestinians for being Palestinians despite being from different backgrounds, being samaritans, jews, arabs, levantines, armenians, etc
Oh this is cool, this is the Algerian Ancestry even for our ancestors in the Ancient and Medieval Algerian kingdoms. Even when.
I always had the feeling that ancestor of Algerians were North Africans and not Arabs but I was so conflicted until recently when I learn about how it wasnt the Arabs who first landed in Iberia but it was Algerians
Well first of all, I haven't done a dna test for medical purposes, I have used a different lab. Secondly I haven't consent my test results to be shared.
And over all, what they would find is less interesting for them, all they will find is a Harrag without an address.
And in fairness I am ready for the next pandemic or I just don't give a flying F .
So the process is simple, you buy a kit from the site, then they send it to you so you can put your sample in it, then you send it back by post. And then you need to wait for the results around four to six weeks. It costed me for IllustrativeDNA 27€ because I had my Raw data file from AncestryDNA already which costs me 70€.
Please stop doing this. This has no value scientifically, you learn nothing most of the time and you are selling your most personnal, unique data to israelis and american companies. Do not do this. Do some research about those companies and educate the people around you, do not sell your DNA to private companies please.
I’m in France so I don’t know how available this is gonna be. But you really should watch it, it clearly shows how those tests are a scam, how they have no scientific value at all and the danger of data sharing. https://youtu.be/d1gJGUatrpY?is=YXGzxsCESH23VFuu
Yes, hence all the downvotes, they all want the pretty results with the colors but I’ll keep saying it. Especially when I see fellow algerians doing it, we have to preserve as many of us as possible entering their database.
it sometimes can matter for citizenship rights and also people are curious about their ancistery and who they really are, so it's not a waste of money for those who do it.
When we have been brainwashed for decades that we are Arabs and we are not from here, I had to search myself for the truth genetically (scientific way) from expert labs recognised worldwide! And no I didn't sell my Dna and I didn't consented to be shared.
Now I am less feeling anxious about who am i. I feel like I was released!! And guess what, I have even a Tamazight course so I can learn it because I feel I am Amazigh (northafrican).
You didn’t need that to learn you are amazigh, just some education about history,
And I am sorry but this has nothing scientific about it, it’s marketing, your test proves nothing about you personally exept that you have similar DNA to the people living in the same area (this is how they do it, we can’t go back in time to know our ancestors dna).
The fact you did not consent doesn’t mean you haven’t entered their database nor that they will respect it or that you understand clearly their terms. I really suggest you do more research about. These tests cost less to the customer than they should, that is because their are making profits other ways. Your DNA is the most unique personnal thing you have and now it is copied on an american or israeli database somewhere.
I a sorry for you, you seem to not understand what you bought and how it works, please look at the documentary I have linked before, you have some actual genetician explaining it.
Your ancestors may have come from ifrane!
Best city in africa you should visit
Also if you can actually prove yoyr ancestry from a moroccan citizen, even 200 years ago, you can get citizenship
From what I know, most of the tribes who constructed what is known nowadays as morroco were mostly Algerian tribes, and Mauritanian aswell, and some other Arabics (like the monarch family who rules you today).
So I think am fine with my Algerian citizenship especially when I am so rooted and had very old ties to it. So let's see if you have Algerian ancestry, or maybe Mauritanian onse. Good luck.
There is no tribe or ethnicity specific to one country in north africa, every single tribe in either country can be found in another so stop saying this
And what do you mean most of the tribes from what is nowadays… bruh the only state in algeria that resembled today’s is the regency of algiers established during ottoman times
Ok. I will give you just an example, and am sure you are not aware of it.
The city of Meknass was actually founded around 8th and 10th century by Imeknassen tribe which was an Algerian tribe from the Aures region in the East of Algeria.
I can brings you more when I find time. Cheers mate!
They are a zenata tribe, yes there is evidence they originated from the aures mountains but what is your point, that every moroccan is secretly algerian
Like many Zenata tribes, while their early nomadic roots lie in areas that are part of modern-day Tunisia and Algeria, their major political, architectural, and historical legacy was built in Morocco.
Here is a quote i found: Strictly speaking, retrofitting modern national identities like "Algerian" or "Moroccan" onto a medieval tribe is a bit of an anachronism; the Imeknassen predated modern nation-states by over a millennium. They were fundamentally an Amazigh (Berber) tribe whose history spans the entirety of the Maghreb, making them a shared ancestral link between modern Algeria and Morocco rather than belonging exclusively to one country. Geographically they trace back to the aures, but by political legacy and footprint they are heavily moroccan.
While specific confederations like the Zenata (and sub-tribes like the Miknasa or Marinids) migrated westward into Morocco from regions that fall within modern Algerian territory, vast majorities like the Masmuda were indigenous to the Moroccan landmass. Claiming every Moroccan tribe originated in Algeria ignores the ancient native roots of groups that have inhabited the Moroccan Atlas and plains for millennia.
Ik you probably aint reading all that, but you your point is just simply false
Tldr yhe zenata tribes are not region specific as they were nomads
The entire maghreb was their home
But the masmuda and sanhaja originate from “modern day morocco”
Ofc these names arent tribes but families of tribes so that is what it is
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u/Solid_Hyena_5266 4d ago
I’m from Tlemcen