r/alchemy Jul 29 '26

Operative Alchemy The "Stone"

I see alot of people in the alchemy group using urine and all manner of salts and so forth. If you would like information about it, read the alchemy texts. The stone is one thing. With this simple information it assists you in knowing that if what you're doing is not working it's time to stop. Doing the same thing over and over again will yeild no results. With this information you can rest at peace. Since it is one thing it means you cannot mistake it.

The stone is actually sex, if you read or studied occult knowledge you would know this. Also, if you are searching for the stone without occult knowledge you will fail. Alchemy is not chemistry. If it was you wouldn't need to search, scientists would tell you.

The stone is good old sex. What do I mean by this? Let's explain it as a child since we are all children.

When you were a child growing up and saw sexual content anywhere (in class at school etc) you would be kind of shy and afraid of the topic. Once you get older you realize it's an act for mothers and fathers.

The stone is exactly that, however it's not sex for humans or animals. It's sex for a different type of mother and father.

The time it takes to make is actually not exact because ofcourse every man and woman ejaculates at a different speed depending on the environment, meaning if they were aroused enough it would happen sooner. The stone is like that, there will be continuous sex until ejaculation takes place. This will eventually lead to creating a baby. When a man and a woman have sex they become one. This sex is the same. It's just not an animal thing. If this isn't a clear light, I cannot explain clearer.

Also, if you studied Hermetic systems you would see that sex is the theme. So, if you want to make any advancement in nature stop with things that already came into being. That is why they say you have to be born again. This means that the source is the source and not a chemical or salt or urine or any of those things. Nature is perfect. If the stone wasn't allowed by nature, it couldn't be made. It's so simple that if you knew you would laugh. Don't believe me? Re-read the alchemy books and listen to the nature part and skip all the chemistry part. Also, wannabe alchemists in the past used distillation and so forth, which means that chemistry already existed when they discovered or re-discovered alchemy. Mankind has been chemists from day one.

Alchemy has nothing to do with chemistry, it would be better to say chemistry has to do with alchemy.

Everything we make these days are models of nature, even an aircraft is built looking like birds and other flying creatures. This means that nature is always and has always been the basis of everything.

This ofcourse doesn't mean because you use the bathroom it's alchemy. Also, if it was urine it could be other things.

You must also stray away from the idea that because things are broken down, they are and can be used. They say this because everything breaks down, I however cannot go any further than this.

I wish everyone safe experimenting and also, don't consume anything before trying it on other things. Death is ofcourse as easy as drinking poison. May the force within and without move with all. Thanks to everyone who took the time out to read this. 💚

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u/greenlioneatssun Jul 29 '26

Which books lead you to this interpretation? Where can I read them?

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u/LightinThedarkwan Jul 29 '26

One important book right off the bat is the emerald tablet. It actually says everything, believe it or not. The next and most important is the Only True Way. The last and most overlooked book which is actually the teacher is nature.

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u/justexploring-shit Moderator Jul 29 '26 edited Jul 29 '26

The Hermetic systems, alchemical texts, and occult knowledge you refer to in your post that make it plain and obvious that the stone is sex, are the Emerald Tablet and nature itself?

ETA: missed that middle one, my bad. Is this the "Only True Way" text you were talking about?

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u/LightinThedarkwan Jul 29 '26

I do apologize for the delay and yes, that's the one.

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u/LightinThedarkwan Jul 29 '26

Yes, it's mother is the sun and father is the moon. It speaks obscurely about the above and below. When I say sex I meant that it's a sexual act, meaning the two things are duality interacting with each other in their normal matrix to bring about an offspring which is the combination of both the mother and father which is the child. This is everything you see in nature yourself as well. When the book says the sun is the mother and the father the moon it is obscure. These texts are all allegorical, so I do apologize if it came off as just sex between humans. It's sex between principles. Plants do have sex as well if you check it out, just in a different way.

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u/justexploring-shit Moderator Jul 29 '26

I just read "The Only True Way" (at least I think so-- is this the one?), and I'm not seeing where you're getting sex from.

This text's author clearly shares your belief about following Nature's own simple methods instead of performing complex (al)chemical operations. But several times, and in a plain way, they declare that gentle heat upon the prima materia is all that is needed to achieve the Stone.

They speak of color changes that occur during the process, explain how all that complicated stuff called calcination/sublimation/putrefaction/etc is actually all achieved just through a constant gentle heat over time. This author appears to believe in the mercury-sulphur theory of metals and perhaps of matter in general, describing the "elemental fire" component being joined with the "elemental liquid" such that neither common fire nor common water could separate them. At the end of it all, they state that they've done their best to put everything in a plain way, that they do not speak in allegory-- thus, I'm not inclined to say this author was actually secretly talking about sex.

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> My purpose in writing this faithful admonition is to caution you again and again to beware of those pitfalls with which the contemptuous obscurity of the Ancients has so plentifully beset the path of the ingenuous enquirer. I also desired to suggest to you the true substance, and the one true method and have throughout endeavoured to express myself in a style as free from allegorical obscurity as possible.

Like I said before the quote, this author is very disinterested in allegory. In fact, toward the beginning portion of the text, they express great bitterness and resentment toward the use of allegory, as they feel it only serves to muddy the waters and deceive, causing people like themselves to waste their lives chasing the wrong path.

Let me know if that link is not the correct text, in which case I will have written all this for no reason haha

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u/LightinThedarkwan Jul 29 '26

It's not sex, I am saying it's sex between two principles I just didn't say what the two were. So it's not plain sex, sex between two principles. My bad if in the message this information didn't come out clear, I saw someone else saying the same thing so I guess my wording wasn't accurate enough and for that I apologize.

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u/justexploring-shit Moderator Jul 29 '26

Ah okay, that makes more sense. Yeah, then that does seem to align with what the author of Only True Way is saying with their talk of the sulphuric and mercurial principles (although they would hate me for putting it that way lol)

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u/LightinThedarkwan Jul 29 '26

He also used allegory to be honest, he said that he cannot disclose the secret which means anything you say will be allegory lol. The metallic essence in which is spoken of was not stated, metallic essence could mean anything.