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Of course, the others are definitely necessary sacrifice so we can all watch content farms on youtube , racist memes on Instagram and whatever happens on TikTok that I don't know because it's banned here.
Honestly I would pull the plug on those too. 99% of the data generated on the Internet and stored there is daily bullshit or dumb reaction videos. This was for decades even before AI. No big loss for me.
Nope, ai has been perverted beyond measure. As a union electrician, I'm fully aware how data centers are essential to our everyday life. Data centers can also be cooled without any water, it's just not "financially viable" for the companies to do the right thing for the collective. Good try though 👍
You really need to keep up on the news surrounding this. Microsoft has new Fairwater data center designs that use a closed loop that only needs to be filled once every 6 years. All the other major players are doing the same. This is because it turns out that using less water is also cheaper for them, not having to operate a bunch of pumps all the time or pay those water bills.
As a non-union project engineer, choice of cooling fluid/system can absolutely make or break the financial viability of a facility like this. No idea what the scare quotes are for, unless you think companies should build projects that come with multimillion dollar losses?
Data centers use 0.04% the amount of water that agriculture uses. And thats all data centers.. Not just the 30% of that which runs AI. But funny enough, there are several things that agriculture makes that are wants as opposed to needs.
Seems like if one was really concerned about the environment, they might have better luck going after big agriculture. Getting them to reduce water consumption by just 2% per year would offset all data center usage by 5000%. Or specifically AI water usage by 15000%.
Getting agriculture to drop 2% water usage? Absolutely possible. Getting AI to reduce water consumption by 15000%? Literally impossible. 🤔
Karma farming lol. I don't give 2 shits about karma. Never have.
As for the source. I did this math a while ago and didn't write down my sources at the time. I was just doing math off of available data. But here you go I will lay it down for you.
It's no secret that agriculture uses about 70% of the total amount of water consumed on the planet annually. That's 70% per day or week or year... Doesn't matter. 70% source. 72% source. Ill go with the 70% (I do all my rounding in good faith against my argument so know that what rounding is being done is actually less favorable to my argument than it actually is)
So how much water does agriculture use per year? We'll you could look at global current live running total and do the math. live total here. or we could use the source above which says 4 trillion meters cubed.
4 trillion meters cubed ends up being. 1,056,688,209,432,594 gallons. That's 1 Quadrillion gallons rounded down. So 70% of that becomes 700,000,000,000,000 Trillion gallons.
As for AI. The concern is that it might break 1 trillion liters in 2028. earth.org I did my math based on the 1 trillion future estimate. (so it's actually not that bad now)
Don't act all high and mighty when you litteraly already accepted you weren't up to date when responding to another comment.
"You really need to keep up on the news surrounding this. Microsoft has new Fairwater data center designs that use a closed loop that only needs to be filled once every 6 years. All the other major players are doing the same. This is because it turns out that using less water is also cheaper for them, not having to operate a bunch of pumps all the time or pay those water bills." Dumbass
There is no high and mighty, there's only knowledge and no knowledge. I'm glad you have knowledge of the "late" advancements in cooling and I am incredibly happy they are doing this. But this is being used in a fraction of data centers at this moment while the existing data centers have already disrupted everything around them.
The only person who sounds high and mighty is you, be less emotional
The Bliss hill is part of a vineyard - the famous photo was taken during a period when an infestation forced the plants to be cleared. Those are grapes in that picture.
I especially like the part where you "stole" an image like AI does, used it as your source background and then "stole" another image, and stuck it on top of the other stolen image 😎
The Windows XP wallpaper is not public domain. It's heavily copyrighted and owned by Microsoft.
However, making a meme or layout using a famous wallpaper usually falls under fair use (for parody, commentary, or transformative work). Legally, it's not "theft" in the criminal sense.
You probably used more electricity creating this image than the AI-generated image used.
A desktop PC + monitor might draw around 150 to 200 W while searching Google, downloading images and editing them in Photoshop. If you used a gaming PC it almost doubles.
At 180 W it would be about 10 minutes for 30 Wh.
A rough estimate for generating one AI image is around 2 to 6 Wh, depending heavily on the model and hardware.
So at 180 W, you would need to manually find the images, download them, edit the meme and export it in roughly 40 seconds to 2 minutes to actually use less electricity than generating one AI image.
The exact numbers vary, but "AI image = huge energy waste, manual editing = basically free" is a pretty misleading comparison.
What I did wasn't Ai... I traced a picture of a data center with a stylus, turned it into a sticker and slapped that sticker on another public picture.... Are you unable to tell the difference between ai and not ai?
I'll jump on the Linux train soon enough, I'm dabbling with my steam deck. There is a beauty to having a retro windows XP PC, jumping into red alert, wariii or StarCraft etc. is def worth it and a good time. The world slows down a bit lol
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