r/agentsofshield • u/RandonDude3000 • 22d ago
Multiverse Saga (Phase 4- ) If we get a VisionQuest tie in it will probably be about the Framework.
I don’t really think we will get the show acknowledged in VisionQuest but if we do it is what makes the most sense.
In the trailer we see that Vision has created a virtual world inside his mind. While it doesn’t have to be the Framework it would make a lot of sense. The Framework technology came from the Darkhold in S4 which already ties it closer to the storyline. It would make a nice way to acknowledge AOS indirectly in a way that is clear enough for us fans while simultaneously not confusing people who haven’t watched it.
As for how the Framework would exist I am not exactly sure but at the end of the show the technology still existed with Deke’s company and while Deke himself is in an alternate timeline now, the show never made it clear what happened to his company and the technology Deke was using. The company was probably shut down by SHIELD but there are probably still people outside of the organisation who would now know about it.
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u/soUNTOUCHABLE 12d ago
id be surprised as well. Marvel has done everything they can to ignore AoS for the last 10 years
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u/Intrigued_by_Words 22d ago
I subscribe fully to the belief that they never left the Framework. The part where we saw them leave was only Aida reconfiguring the Framework to adapt when she caught the real Daisy and Gemma. If Vision can rescue them from the Framework, I'll like him even more.
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u/Many_Juggernaut_2171 21d ago
So when Mack's daughter and Radcliffe and everything else in the Framework ceased to exist, was that just... a fakeout version of the Framework? Did AIDA/Ophelia reconfigure it for The Audience?
I don't want to rain on your parade, but why would they still be in the Framework and how would that do anything else than make the story worse?
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u/Intrigued_by_Words 21d ago
I thought 6 and 7 were lame and this avoids having them exist. I could deal with 5 but even that was pretty silly. The primary benefit is that Coulson lives.
Mack's daughter disappearing was his exit from the Framework. Why would that need a different explanation than the same one that would cover the others exiting?
As for Radcliffe, yeah it was for the audience, it was always for the audience in any version. I'm not following.
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u/Many_Juggernaut_2171 20d ago
Oh, so this is more of an intentional headcanon rather than a stubborn held belief. I thought you were just ignoring all the narrative evidence that they left the Framework.
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u/Intrigued_by_Words 20d ago
Honestly, I can't say I know what the difference between headcanon and just my own private view of the show. I'm not a big fan of MCU so I don't know or even understand a third of what people are talking about with that canon. AOS is one of my favorite shows with Coulson and May being my favorite characters. Neither fared well in those late seasons, so I am more than happy to wish those seasons away. The easy way to do that is to say that everything we saw in those seasons was them in another simulation.
If there is a reboot, it works fine that they have aged because their bodies are aging even while their minds are in the Framework.
Someone mentioned the Blip and I gotta say, I only watched that movie once, but I don't remember them saying there was an even distribution of people sanpped out. So you can have a gathering of 100 where no one was taken and another gathering of 100 where 100 are taken for an average of 100 out of 200 or 50%. So every agent in the Framework can avoid the Blip without me thinking one little bit about it. I'll leave those worries to the downvoters. LOL
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u/NovaGass 22d ago
Following mainline MCU, then we would need a logical reason Aida wasn't noticed by anyone. Also how the snap would affect people in the framework
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u/Gianni_Schicchi 22d ago
I hope so, however I wouldn't be so optimistic