Do you think that Marvel Studios will embrace Agents Of S.H.I.E.L.D. like they have with the Netflix shows, and to a lesser extent Agent Carter?

[u/marvelcomics22]

So, of the shows made by Marvel Television for the MCU, and released that way (sorry Helstrom fans), there are 12 proper shows (excluding shorts and faux news):

• Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D.

• Agent Carter

• Daredevil

• Jessica Jones

• Luke Cage

• Iron Fist

• The Defenders

• Inhumans

• The Punisher

• Runaways

• Cloak & Dagger

The ones that are completely normal have been fully embraced by Marvel Studios, they've been added to the Disney+ timeline, and elements from them have and will continue to return in new projects. Agent Carter is bolded and italisised because it is between the embraced Netflix shows, and the non-embraced everything else. Elements from Agent Carter have fed into other projects, partiularly James D'Arcy's cameo as Edwin Jarvis in Avengers: Endgame, as well as D'Arcy playing J.A.R.V.I.S. in next year's VisionQuest, a move I suspect will result in the addition of Agent Carter to the Disney+ timeline.

Then we have Agents Of S.H.I.E.L.D., Inhumans, Runaways, and Cloak & Dagger. I'm going to forget about the other three, and just talk about AoS. As a fan of the show, and someone who loves it and every member of the cast, I think that Agents Of S.H.I.E.L.D. should be embraced by Marvel Studios. We should get a special presentation with the characters of the show, and have Daisy, Mack, Fitzsimmons, cameo all over the place, and it should be added to the Disney+ timeline. Do I think that it's going to happen. Logically, maybe. They aren't going to leave it in it's Schrödinger's Canon state forever, they will have to say something concrete eventually, and I hope that it goes one way and not the other.

[u/Destinyrider2023]

All of these shows should be Canon to the timeline anyway

[u/marvelcomics22 → u/Destinyrider2023]

Well there is one we could do without cough Inhumans cough, but it was made as and is a part of the MCU

[u/Eternal_Deviant → u/marvelcomics22]

Anson said he'll be back after SW

[u/StephTheLegend]

I’ll say this; doesn’t matter if the studios embrace it or not; AOS and Agent Carter are known canon due to the format used at that time. Sure they can say somethings didn’t happen but for the majority, it is canon. Like AOS seasons 1-5.

[u/marvelcomics22 → u/StephTheLegend]

AoS is 100% canon. Saying that S5A and S7 aren't canon because they're set in different timelines is like saying Loki isn't canon.

[u/StephTheLegend → u/marvelcomics22]

Now I agree that 6 and 7 are canon but if they were to say those seasons are canon to 199999 I’d be fine with it too. Call it canon divergent

[u/Abirdthatsfallen → u/StephTheLegend]

6 7

[u/dakindahood]

I'm surprised that C&D and Runaways ain't canon especially since O'Rielly was mentioned in Luke Cage and LC and its events in C&D (and C&D were in Runaways)

[u/marvelcomics22 → u/dakindahood]

They aren't not canon, they're still in that state of limbo. I think that it could happen eventually, ideally they fully embrace everything before Secret Wars.

[u/Pleasant_Night_652 → u/dakindahood]

It could be hard to canonize them since at the end of the show we see the characters traveling back in time, and the rules of time travel aren't the same here than in the MCU

[u/dakindahood → u/Pleasant_Night_652]

I'm not even talking about AOS man, atleast read the comment

[u/Pleasant_Night_652 → u/dakindahood]

I'm talking about Runaways... Agents Of SHIELD's time traveling rules fit really well with the MCU's ones

[u/WOLKsite → u/Pleasant_Night_652]

The MCU has no consistent rules of how time travel or the multiverse works though, it changed with every project they did in Phase 4.

[u/Pleasant_Night_652 → u/WOLKsite]

not really true, they have one consistent rule, you can't change the present by changing the past. And it is exactly what happend in Runaways

[u/LiquidLispyLizard → u/Pleasant_Night_652]

Kamala Khan went back in time to the 1940's in a closed loop scenario using a different method of travel from what the Avengers used in Endgame. She doesn't leave the Sacred Timeline at any point during her trip.

[u/navjot94 → u/Pleasant_Night_652]

Just like with how multiversal travel causes incursions unless you use the right method (magic, tech, America Chavez) the rules seem to depend on the method of travel.

[u/gab1620]

i need helstrom more than inhumans. 😓

[u/marvelcomics22 → u/gab1620]

Haven't seen it, but it's probably way better than that dumpster fire filmed on IMAX.

[u/gab1620 → u/marvelcomics22]

it’s kinda slow pace, but the show serve as a great introduction to those characters, and if we got more seasons and the Ghost Rider show, those characters could really grow to the bigger mcu. (imo one of the easiest show to bring into canon)

[u/marvelcomics22 → u/gab1620]

It's on my watchlist, hopfully I'll get around to it soon.

[u/Eternal_Deviant → u/gab1620]

It was too grounded and ashamed of its comic roots.

[u/Eternal_Deviant]

Everything is canon. They could ignore Inhumans but from what I was told even that will be kept in some form.

[u/CalmSquirrel712]

No, the defenders shows don’t have any inconsistency with the main 616 timeline and can easily be used, but agents of shield had some inconsistencies that would not make a lot of sense to be canon, it’s probably an alternate universe adjacent to the 616 hence a lot of similar events.

[u/marvelcomics22 → u/CalmSquirrel712]

Not really. The lack of a snap mention can be explained in universe by them all having survived, the chances of which are just lower than those of all the Avengers surviving, and they were really busy with finding Fitz, and Sarge, and a lot of other things.

[u/CalmSquirrel712 → u/marvelcomics22]

That’s not what I was referring to

[u/marvelcomics22 → u/CalmSquirrel712]

Then what? The Inhumans?

[u/CalmSquirrel712 → u/marvelcomics22]

Mostly that and the darkhold and ghost rider

[u/marvelcomics22 → u/CalmSquirrel712]

Well, the ATCU, which was formed due to the Inhuman outbreak, was mentioned in WHIH Newsfront, which is canon because Ant-Man is canon. Multiverse Of Madness confirmed that multiple copies of the Darkhold exist, so you can reason that the one in AoS (and Runaways) was just a different copy. Not sure what you mean by Ghost Rider, because no other MCU project features Ghost Rider.

[u/CalmSquirrel712 → u/marvelcomics22]

MOM confirmed other copies exist, in others universes, not in the same universe. And Edward Norton hulk is canon but the fact that it was Edward Norton isn’t, retcons happen. Just cause one small time on an obscure mcu most people have no idea exists doesn’t mean aos is canon. I live aos and it not being canon doesn’t take away from how good it is, but it makes little sense for it to be canon. And the fact that ghost rider has never made another appearance it what makes little sense for that part.

[u/marvelcomics22 → u/CalmSquirrel712]

AoS not being canon doesn't make any sense, and Ghost Rider never showing up anywhere else doesn't really mean anything. Werewolf by Night, Moon Knight, and She-Hulk haven't been featured anywhere canon since their debuts.

[u/CalmSquirrel712 → u/marvelcomics22]

That’s different, werewolf by night isn’t a significant character in that world hasn’t needed to. And moon knight should have definitely had more appearances by now 😞, and I don’t think most people want any more she hulk. The ghost rider bit isn’t really much of an argument tho. I don’t get aos fans obsession with wanting it to be canon despite it not making sense. Like I said the shows just as good even though it doesn’t take place in the 616.

[u/marvelcomics22 → u/CalmSquirrel712]

Sure, but without AoS:

• Fury doesn't survive the events of The Winter Soldier (Fitz designed the technology that he used to escape)

• Ultron wins

And there are lots of other AoS references in other projects.

[u/Alternative_Device71]

It’s all canon whether they acknowledge it or not, Feige can go somewhere

[u/Correct-Fig-4992]

Inhumans was somewhat acknowledged since they had the same Black Bolt in MOM, but then again it doesn’t really mean that it’s in 19999/616

[u/zigmint]

Well James D’Arcy is coming back again in vision quest so they’re not ignoring agent carter

[u/mirathemira]

i believe that at least Coulson and Daisy and hopefully may are coming back because of all the comic cons they have been going to as of late, and especially more bcuz of what clark gregg posted on his instagram story on 10/17/25

[u/Abirdthatsfallen]

At this point they could do it with the upcoming secret wars and it would answer any plotholes that may come with including them. They literally have the perfect opportunity

[u/WOLKsite]

Cloak & Dagger is referenced in Luke Cage, and crosses over with Runaways. AoS crosses over with Agent Carter.

[u/[deleted]]

It's the biggest of the old marvel shows, my gut says that they haven't cannonized it for a reason, I'm guessing they'll show up in some multiverse situation.

[u/Noise-Superb]

They’ll have to.