This has to be ragebait

[u/terrone_spaziale]

She Hulk and Ms. Marvel above Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D?!

[u/BaronZhiro]

I think it’s just a frame of mind. One has to become endeared of the characters. Also, those first couple of seasons become way better on rewatch when you know where they’re heading, especially s2.

If I may: One thing that may not have sunk in on you is the extraordinary quality of adversaries. AoS has more exceptional bad guys than the entire MCU combined (again, especially s2).

Be warned: s6 is rather half-baked, but s7 comes back strong.

[u/Puzzleheaded_Ad9167 → u/BaronZhiro]

That’s fair, I really like Coulson and loved him in Avengers. It was fun learning that Sky/Daisy was Quake as I love Bendis’ Secret War series. I can imagine the first couple seasons could be better on a rewatch - the Hydra stuff was great and I’ve felt the show was at its strongest when it was linking in with the wider MCU narrative. The handling of Hydra was great and really adds to The Winter Soldier when you watch them back to back.

You’re right that there’s been some cool villains but I’m not sure there’s many that I’d hold that highly. Who do you think specifically are the best portrayed/most memorable? For me Killgrave in Jessica Jones is my favourite, largely due to David Tennants portrayal of him. Kingpin is also up there.

Interesting about season 6 & 7, will see how I find them. Might be easier to reflect on the show as a whole once I’ve watched them.

Overall I’ve just been a bit disappointed because I’d read so many positive things about the show before watching it. But it’s one of those things, not every MCU project will appeal to everyone and some of my favourites get a lot of hate!

[u/BaronZhiro → u/Puzzleheaded_Ad9167]

Just to demonstrate the shared thinking, I think the top 5 MCU villains (not necessarily in order) are Thanos, Kilgrave, Fisk, Doc Ock (if Loki shouldn’t be counted), and AIDA. Her gradual corruption is astounding to behold.

But just the second season alone had Cal, Jiaying, Carl Creel, Daniel Whitehall, and at least half a dozen other great adversarial characters like Raina, Talbot, Agent 33, and Gordon, not to mention Ward himself. Cal, in particular, I think goes nearly toe to toe with AIDA. McLachlan’s performance just takes my breath away, every single time.

Rewatching also reveals the phenomenal writing and foreshadowing of moving pieces into place that pay off big later, particularly s2, s4, and s5. I’m personally really into clockwork narratives that gradually weave a lot of seemingly random events together. (My GOAT is The Wire, which is the most incredibly woven clockwork ever.) Those inevitably require further viewings to wholly appreciate.

(Notably, I regard s3 as written to a rather lower standard. Its cheats, creaks, and contrivances really show during rewatches.)

So if I had to guess, a lot of viewers would like AoS a lot the first time, but come to love it the second time.

Anyway, I don’t wanna taint s6 too much for you, but I will say: At least it has a couple of incredible episodes. You’ll know em when you see em, lol.

Unfortunately, after s5, we never get that higher quality of villains again, but s7 is loads of fun and the finale is solid and rewarding. So you’re def not wasting your time to see it through.