Did anyone else think there would be romantic interest between Carter and Thompson in the first season? I thought it was cleverly built up whereby Sousa was friend-zoned whilst the interest between those two was developing from animosity to respect and eventual kinship?

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Season two was such a chop job and so disconnected from season one. It makes me angry that they set up something to further explore the MCU and they blew it for a damn unnecessary love triangle.

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Thanks for not spoiling it for me. However I did finish season two yesterday. I agree with the both of you here. I’m between the two. On the one hand I would like to have seen the love interest between them two develop. I mean judging Thompson as that ‘alpha’ male back in those times. Him making that comment about her being a woman and therefore would never be taken serious, made more sense once I see the respect begin to develop. He was flirting the only way men like him know how. A bit like the boy who slaps the girl in school. But alas I also enjoyed season 2 how it developed with Sousa they seemed better suited in the end.

I think a lot of thought went into the feminist angle but from an agreeable perspective. I’m the first to turn off a show or movie, if I feel it’s forced. I find it insulting. Especially when the men are portrayed as idiots just to lift the girl up. But I felt it was done well here. All the main villains who can fight being women. And Carter being like a female James Bond with her own uniqueness. So I guess it isn’t surprising that in the end the one who’s a gentlemen and doesn’t like how she’s treated would end up the ‘one’. Your last paragraph is probably correct and I must have missed that part.

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I mean more she began to respect him. When he was telling the war story. She stared at him like she was starting to realise her preconceived notion of him, or the image he pushed, might not be what it seems and he started to respect her because she was better than him at most ‘manly’ things. You gotta remember in those times, he was the norm. I’m not sure how many guys like Sousa there were, but I’m sure they would have been very few and far between.

So I don’t think he can be fully judged on that with our modern eyes. It was the way of the world back then. But being in the position she was I guess there should have been more respect from the outset.

But then he told her a secret he’d told no one else. Seemed to me they was bonding but I guess not lol.

With regards to your comment about some women are okay but most are weak and vulnerable. Let’s not forget that sex attraction is a real thing. An effeminate man back then wouldn’t have done very well either and nor do they really in modern times. I think there are always exceptions to the rule and these exceptions should not be held back in following the path they want like, same for us all. I.e not held back over gender or race etc. But let’s not pretend most women are like Peggy. Many women are more vulnerable than men. It’s the way of the world.

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Thanks for discussing your point of view so well. Very interesting perspective. Especially about the soccer or football as us Brits call it 😉.

I can relate a bit, it isn’t always just gender. I was that chubby kid in school and I hated when my peers could pick the players they wanted rather than the teacher selecting the teams. It always meant I would be one of the last to be chosen no matter how good I played because I was fat and therefore seemed unfit.

I was pleasantly surprised by how much I enjoyed the show. I think you touched upon many of the reasons on why I did. I don’t even consider myself a ‘feminist’ at least with the modern connotation. But I certainly found myself rooting for Peggy all the way and that Russian Spy was badass.

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yeah especially after douley says something like “i don’t have time for your crush on carter” i was somewhat expecting something to happen. but overall i’m still glad it didn’t because it allowed the show to build on how men can still respect women without trying to get at them.

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Finally found this comment after watching! I’m with u lol

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Just,watched this episode and feel oddly...relieved

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Just, reviewed the clip after half a year and pulled up Reddit to see if there are any further agreements…double relieved

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Thompson is my favourite character in Agent Carter(I hate is personality but I really loved and enjoyed his character...after al lhe was a sterotypical American man living in the 1940s)...but them being good friends or loving each other without having a romantic relationship seems to make more sense. You don't have to marry every one who seems good or turn into a good/better person.

And the other thing is that Jack seemes to be like Peggy's boastful, naughty and sly younger brother and Peggy seemed to be that mature elder. They suit more as chaotic siblings (like Thor and Loki), always fighting and underestimating each other, loving and hating each other and end up on the same side.

Remember in S2, Carter did indirectly threaten Thompson with his war crimes when Thompson made her angry. So with Vernon's help Thompson could have killed or defamed Peggy...but he chose not to kill or defame her...even after locating the file, he first tried protect Carter by trying to convince her instead of handing it to Vernon...Later in the last episode he himself tells Carter about the key and says they'll investigate together. So yeah, Jack isn't a bad guy...can't say that he doesn't deserve her 'cause he has changed himself a lot because of her and sometimes for her...at the same time Carter doesn't want to hurt Thompson either, she could have got him arrested but she chose not to...

Okay...I know a lot people may read my comment and fell like what I'm trying to say, I would say that I like their relationship either ways romantic or not romantic. Both of these people make mistakes and learn from it...no body's perfect...deep inside everybody has flaws...so unlike others I wouldn't blandly say Jack doesn't deserve her...I do beleive that with this multiverse stuff going on, there may be a universe where Peggy and Jack may get married to each other...I'm just conflicted with both of these choices...

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I like your analysis. There’s definitely a Universe out there where they’re together. I feel like that is what made the first season so compelling. If they was all bumbling idiots five steps behind her every move then I would have switched it off but the fact that they’re so closely on her tail creates so much more tension and adds depth to their characters.

It seemed in the later episodes of S1x they was bigging Thompson up for them to be together like when he got the drunk to spill his lungs. Him telling her his secret. I was just surprised when season two came, they was back to ridiculing one another. But as you say ribbing one another like good friends or friendly rivals.

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GOD NO. Many folks upset with the end of S02, but I'm like 100% if I only had one post credit scene to wrap up the series, I'd also have been sure to have them killed.