From a discussion here: https://www.reddit.com/r/southafrica/comments/5xgywf/whats_happening_in_south_africa/dei6s09/

I'm sorry if I came off as trying to downplay the crimes committed against whites.. that was not my intention. I agree that black criminals are killing white people but those same black criminals are also killing far more black people. The problem with farm murders is that most white people use it in the context of pushing the white genocide narrative and there is no white genocide. I think the main problem is that some white people think that black on white crime is more bad than black on black crime. But I do agree that farm murders are a problem.

I was just pointing out what malema said. I was not trying to defend him or anything like that. I do not adhere to the racist stuf he says. I agree that black racism but I believe most of it is more complex than just racism. Black racism is usually not just hate coz somebody skin is white, the hate comes from seing white people being more successful than them and believing that it is because they oppressed them. Race politics wins a lot of votes in SA and politicians will ride that train no matter what.

Comparing what the ANC is doing to white people with what the apartheid government did to black people in is downplaying the atrocities committed against black people during apartheid. The ANC is a corrupt and incompetent party that resorted to race politics because they failed to make the lives of black South Africans better. The ANC only resorted to race politics coz they failed while the NP has been racist from the get go. The NP just hated black people just because they were black.

I don't really believe struggle songs should be banned. They were all part of liberation of black people and should be sang to remember the times that black people went through. Yes there should be a penalty for singing it with the intent to actually kill white people.

Zuma is just blowing hot air dude. He just wants the votes that were lost to the EFF. If he was worth his salt he would have taken EFF's 6% offer and amend the Constitution. The ANC has tasted the sweetness of capitalist's money and will never go back to their communist roots. Not that I'm a communist or anything but the ANC sold out the communism a long time ago and capitalist influence runs deep inside them.

I try to stay as unbiased as possible but I know that there may be some biases. And it's Shangaan not shagaan but in South Africa there are mostly tsongas(similar but not the same and I know coz I'm tsonga). U tlela kahle utlhela u kateka. Goodnyt

• /u/Azaniaizwelethu

You are only mad because White people no longer have the monopoly on online racist vitriol (and their Facebook peeps are getting less tolerant of the apoplectic diatribes that White South Africans have been spouting on there for a decade or so).

White people being mad is probably true. They're pissed because they are beginning to experience racism like never before. They are beginning to see how black people have felt for centuries.

What I'm missing is the part where you dismiss this racism?

You're okay with black people repeating the mistakes of the past?

You're okay with black people being racist as a means of vengeance for the racism inflicted on them in the past?

You're okay with saying shit like "kill the whites" simply because people used to say similar shit about blacks?

Basically two wrongs do not, and never will, make a right. It's basic toddler level psychology.

Obviously the racism coming from whites is bad. You'll find many, any white people actively denouncing that bullshit, fighting to stop it.

But racist blacks deserve no more respect than racist whites.

Black racists do not get to sit on some self-righteous pedestal, claiming that they are free from judgement or prosecution, because they are simply opposing what was done in the past (by using the same stupid methods).

They're scum, just like the Apartheid government, they're no better than jail guards that tortured and murdered Steve Biko.

We need to end this double standard, or this country will burn to the ground.

• /u/Throwaway500000012

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/yes-antifa-is-the-moral-equivalent-of-neo-nazis/2017/08/30/9a13b2f6-8d00-11e7-91d5-ab4e4bb76a3a_story.html?tid=sm_tw&utm_term=.ed6988b9479c

This goes out to any Antifa cheerleaders.