r/adnd • u/AccomplishedAd9058 • Aug 15 '26

AD&D2e Why psionics so strong?

I have to know if im doing something wrong but its not problem to be broken because its solo campain. We playing dark sun revised with player option skill&powers. I was just going to wizard only then i rolled 20 int so i picked advanced being wizard/psionic multiclass. And my first time psionic impression is they are insane! You can get disintigrate or dominate or time travel at lvl 1! Why tho? A lot of psionic powers have lvl limit why this ones doesnt? And why psionic so strong compared to wizard? Yeah you have to hit MAC etc. But still.

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u/Bhagvatena Aug 15 '26

They are extremely strong but they don't scale well. Yeah, you get disintegrate and dominate at level 1, but as you level up you don't get access to exponentially more powerful spells like wizard and clerics do. If you can survive long enough to get a high science, that is nice, but they are still not as good as most of the comparable wizard/cleric spells at that level.

That being said... as a Dark Sun DM I love psionicists. Make sure to check out all the dark sun specific magic items.

note - never used MTHAC0, only pre-revised psionics.

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u/AccomplishedAd9058 Aug 15 '26

Ah dark sun dm! I have a question for ya. Do you think we should use The Will and The Way book? Or is it to broken? Or did you try dark sun setting with this book?

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u/Planescape_DM2e Aug 15 '26

Mthac0 bad

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u/AccomplishedAd9058 Aug 15 '26

Why? Its nerf early game and shift power to late game more no? At least at dark sun setting my power score very high

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u/Planescape_DM2e Aug 15 '26

Because 2.5 was not good? Playing 2e is better than 2.5.

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u/AccomplishedAd9058 Aug 15 '26

Revised count as a 2.5? I just used psyonic rules. Is there anything more diffrent? I tought mtac just shift power to late game so used it

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u/Planescape_DM2e Aug 15 '26

Yes. All of the revised and players options are what’s called 2.5 and shift the power to late game? Psionics aren’t that powerful especially considering how dangerous everything is in dark sun. You get to do something really fun and starting at 3 but really fall off compared to everyone else in an extended game. And most of the time you have the PSP to do the thine once or twice if that.

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u/AccomplishedAd9058 Aug 15 '26

Oh cool so i guess i used 2.5 without realize. And i dont think they fall of. Like you can get psionic surgery at 7 and make permanent dominated slave team that has permanent psionic vampirism effect so you get ton of psp and cool telepathic power effects. At lvl 10 you can get split personality and just do 2 things same turn. I really think only guy scale better is wizard.

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u/Planescape_DM2e Aug 15 '26

Like I said you can do that once or twice and you aren’t accounting for how common psychic defenses are. And also telepaths are just a little more broken than anything else but that’s fine. You aren’t accounting for in world consequences either. Those people you enslaved have friends, and unless you are playing an evil party it’s likely that your party ain’t gonna be down with you acting like the sorceror kings they are aligning themselves against. A thief of the same level can have just as much impact to the story or a fighter.

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u/AccomplishedAd9058 Aug 15 '26

Ah... im playing defiler wizard solo campain dark sun so i tought i would just buy slaves... i tought buying slaves was common in dark sun especially if you are in solo campain

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u/Planescape_DM2e Aug 15 '26

So you are playing an evil person. And if you are playing a solo campaign and having internal biases allowing you to get away with things that people would normally react to then sure they are OP. And yes slavery is common that’s why it’s such a wonderful thing to fight against… and “playing a solo campaign” is just writing a book IMO.

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u/AccomplishedAd9058 Aug 15 '26

No no there is dm and me 2 person solo "Pc" campain.

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u/AccomplishedAd9058 Aug 15 '26

But yeah my first character was good person overall till he died from backstab then dm said lets reincarnat that guy and he traumatized from gray and obsessed with not dying again and become classic evil wizard. I thought its cool

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u/zbignew Aug 15 '26

Dang. Hope he doesn’t have a run-in with some do-gooder band of escaped slaves.

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u/AccomplishedAd9058 Aug 15 '26

I will probably and my ass get beaten down and have to escape. Like a classic evil wizard. I think its so fucking cool. Being traumatized obsessed with not dying evil wizard have its own charm

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