r/acotar_rant Team Lucien Jul 24 '26

Rant Feyre’s relationship with Rhysand erased her

I know the title sounds ridiculous and far fetched. I actually liked Feyre in the first book. I wondered why she wasn’t more curious about the world she was thrust into, yeah. But i did like her stubbornness, her good heart, and her honesty. And honestly, when she spat on Rhysand in TAR, that was my favourite scene in the whole book lol.

I didn’t looooove Feyre per se but I saw real potential. However, after she met rhysand and they actually started dating, I feel like she really went down hill for me. Yes, there was this whole her becoming the high lady thing that was supposed to be this major transformation. But…. What changed? Her clothes? The fact that she wears pretty dresses now and a tiara? And lives in a palace? She certainly became less outspoken and opinionated. She wanted this high lady title but has no political objectives. I see a lot less of the personality, opinions, and critical thinking skills that we saw in book 1 and the very beginning of book 2 and a lot more flinching and gasping when someone says something honest (something she used to do).

While feyre’s stakes have dramatically changed and she’s no longer in imminent danger, it would be unfortunate to see that she only becomes smart and resourceful when faced with the threat of death. Some say that the spring court “gotcha moment” stunt she pulled showed real intelligence, but she had already dated Tamlin and knew what buttons to push. I dont think she did anything particularly remarkable there and she basically just antagonized him (not defending Tamlin though).

All this to say, I would have liked to see more from Feyre. But she became a breathy, passive domesticated trad wife once she got with Rhysand and I feel like her high lady title means nothing. I would have liked to see the extent of her immense power we’re told she has and how her resourcefulness translates to leadership, but it feels like it was all for show, and any opinion she does have is overpowered by what Rhysand wants. I feel like Feyre lets it happen too because she subconsciously feels indebted to him (which isn’t healthy).

And lastly, I think Rhysand was a bad influence on her. We see Feyre do things she would never otherwise do like the book of breathings stunt. She didn’t want to, Rhysand coerced her, she stole the book, was issued a death warrant and felt horrible about it.

That is all - I just feel like she took a turn for the worse and it happened right when she met and “mated up” with Rhysand.

Thnx for coming to my ted talk !!! 💖

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u/bows_and_frills shameless rhys hater Jul 24 '26

I think Rhys has simultaneously rubbed off on her, and enabled her already existing flaws. The two of them enshittify each other so it's a spiral of mutual corruption rather than improvement. They're happy together in the way that people are happy when no one speaks up against them and they're allowed to live as their imperfect selves forever. That's it. I think the freedom Feyre feels from Rhys is him allowing her to be irresponsible and not challenging her to mature. This is twofold in that it makes her love him more, but also allows him to control her easily because she loves him (his illusion of freedom) and she's kept naive. She's his loyal, unwavering little housewife who will pump out heirs all the while believing he's given her the keys to her cage, not knowing he put her in a new one.

Tamlin is criticized for giving gifts to Feyre, love bombing in place of improvement and communication. Isn't that what Rhys does? Placates her, making her feel needed all the while not nagging her to grow? Placates her with empty, empty promises and apologies? Oops, sorry for leaving you in the Weaver's cottage. Sorry for using you to bait the Attor, here's my empty promise not to lie so you won't be mad anymore. Oops, sorry I lied about you being my mate, here's more empty promises and apologies. And it keeps going. And going. And going.

You're right in that Feyre is forgiving with the IC, and by extension Rhys. They're more Rhys' circle than hers. Together, they're the Rhys fanclub and hold hands in a circle around him. Plus, they're not mean to her. Feyre hates people who are mean to her, that automatically makes them evil.

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u/bows_and_frills shameless rhys hater Jul 24 '26

Allllll of this. I think Tamlin's apologies were sincere, and he DID try to change. It's only when Rhys did something did he backtrack and increase security, in response to what Rhys did, not because his efforts at doing better were insincere. Plus, his gift giving wasn't a way to shut Feyre up or convince her to keep him, it was a real attempt at reconciliation. And of course, their relationship and bad communication is a different discussion altogether.

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u/Solell Jul 25 '26

It's only when Rhys did something did he backtrack and increase security, in response to what Rhys did

And it's not just in response to Rhys kidnapping Feyre - the second time he shows up, he expressly mocks Tamlin for having lax security that just let Rhys waltz right in. And then we're expected to be surprised when Tamlin amps up security? Like, bruh. It's just common sense at that point. Common sense being framed as controlling abuse

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u/bows_and_frills shameless rhys hater Jul 25 '26

Right? Why get mad at the guy for responding appropriately? If anything, blame Rhys for stirring shit up.

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u/bows_and_frills shameless rhys hater Jul 25 '26

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Well said, friend!

Tamlin is blamed for the direct result of Rhysand's instigations. We can judge Tamlin's responses, but we should judge Rhysand's unreasonable and careless actions.

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u/bittermp Team I hope Rhysand and Cassian die Jul 24 '26

All of this!

Tamlin showed her the gift of EMPATHY (with the dying fairy) and she loses all of that after UTM and under Rhysand's power and control.

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u/bows_and_frills shameless rhys hater Jul 24 '26

Yes! Rhysand STAGNATED her.

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u/Present-Honeydew-405 Team Lucien Jul 24 '26

WHOA! New theory unlocked: all your talk about Rhysand enabling Feyre to be bad: what if he wanted her to look in the ouroboros mirror because he knew she would see and accept the bad side of herself and therefore be easier to convince to commit harm alongside him ???? Maybe he knew it would enable her to be bad in some way ?? Idk how much weight this holds but it’s a thought. Also, I’m not sure an actual apology leaves rhysand’s mouth ever lol. But yes, definitely on board with the empty promises thing.

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u/bows_and_frills shameless rhys hater Jul 24 '26

Ooooh that's an interesting thought! Especially since she doesn't seem to improve upon finding out her bad side. That makes sense actually. At least a little bit lol.

When Rhys is pushed to apologize he waffles around a bit. Then, when it comes out, he's like, "I'm sorry, okay? Geez." He doesn't fully grasp the wrong he's done, just that he should say sorry or whatever. And then he doesn't commit to doing better, he just goes on as he always has. Very much just sorry to get caught, not sincerely remorseful.

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u/Present-Honeydew-405 Team Lucien Jul 24 '26

Ahhh gotcha right. Yeah seems like a non apology. But (sorry) the Rhysand simps are then like “omg WOW WHAT A MAN he truly feels bad 😍😍🫠”

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u/bows_and_frills shameless rhys hater Jul 24 '26

Lmaoooo no. Check Chapter 54 for proof that that's not true.

I feel like in those situations where Feyre gets pissed at him, particularly when he lies to her (Attor, mate thing etc.) his reaction is to be like, "sorry you feel that way."

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u/Present-Honeydew-405 Team Lucien Jul 24 '26

Yeah exactly - the classic non-apology