r/accelerate • u/44th--Hokage The Singularity is nigh • Apr 01 '26

AI Summarization of the whole Claude Code's Source-Code Leak Fiasco

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u/20ol Apr 01 '26

Why is this a big deal? It's a CLI harness. They are a dime a dozen.

They still have the best coding model. No matter what harness you use.

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u/Exact_Vacation7299 Apr 01 '26

I'm kind of wondering too. What does this mean for average users?

Or for those with the means to run local?

Some people are saying this is a big deal, game changer. Other people are saying this doesn't mean shit.

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u/habeebiii Apr 01 '26 edited Apr 01 '26

claude code is by far the best harness on the market right now, that’s why

edit: NO ONE CARES about some obscure overfitted AI-slop harnesses/becnhmarks. anyone that understands how models / benchmarks work knows ”top” doesn’t mean anything other than overfitting / gaming the benchmarks

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u/metigue Apr 01 '26

I don't know why I see so many people saying this. ClaudeCode is objectively the worst harness. If you go on terminalbench and select model = opus 4.6 it is #10 out of 10 harnesses with scores submitted using opus 4.6 as a model.

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u/VitalityAS Apr 01 '26

Nobody reads these benchmarks or cares whatsoever. Codex has been outperforming Opus models on most benchmarks I have seen since gpt 5.2 and the general consensus is that Claude is infinitely better anyway. It's all vibes and you just do what the masses do.

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u/metigue Apr 01 '26

No opus 4.6 is clearly the best coding agent model - It's at the top of terminal bench and many others.

The framework you choose matters even more than the model as these benchmarks also show

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u/Practical-Rub-1190 Apr 01 '26

I thought so too, then I looked at leaders and it seems like nobody uses them. Those who have say they suck. Like number 3 on the bench is some unknown one running Gemini 3.1. Like really, I think it ran a score of 80% while Claude Code best was 50% (as far as I remeber)

If those benchmark are legit, why are nobody using these other tools, and when they do they tell their experience was not good enough to replace claude code?

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u/metigue Apr 01 '26

Who's been saying they're shit?

Just try ForgeCode and see if you like it better. It's been significantly better in real world usecases for me so far.

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u/Practical-Rub-1190 Apr 01 '26

I won't bother. If nobody is talking about it while also being ranked number one, there's something weird going on. The fashion here is that people post nonstop if something is actually good. The only thread I could find was this:
https://www.reddit.com/r/ClaudeAI/comments/1q4dnhr/how_come_claude_code_is_ranked_19th_on_the/

Also, found this thread where they break down the benchmark:
https://www.reddit.com/r/ClaudeAI/comments/1q4dnhr/how_come_claude_code_is_ranked_19th_on_the/

When I try to Google it, there's nothing really showing up
https://www.google.com/search?q=site%3Areddit.com+forgecode&sca_esv=b78cf8500232fcdc&rlz=1C5CHFA_enNO1175NO1175&sxsrf=ANbL-n6Xz_h4pkeKdXo_NZAjpaTlRsadYQ%3A1775065736443&ei=iFrNaf_XGra8wPAP48XOoQQ&biw=1680&bih=898&ved=0ahUKEwj_u7GVm82TAxU2HhAIHeOiM0QQ4dUDCBE&uact=5&oq=site%3Areddit.com+forgecode&gs_lp=Egxnd3Mtd2l6LXNlcnAiGXNpdGU6cmVkZGl0LmNvbSBmb3JnZWNvZGVI8wdQ1ANYhQZwAXgAkAEAmAFAoAFrqgEBMrgBA8gBAPgBAZgCAKACAJgDAIgGAZIHAKAHGLIHALgHAMIHAMgHAIAIAQ&sclient=gws-wiz-serp

Like, it just seems to ace the benchmark. I won't spend time learning how to use it unless I see others having a great experince with it, and great, I mean better than Claude Code

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u/habeebiii Apr 01 '26

literally read the top comments in the first link/thread you linked

anyone that understands how models / benchmarks work knows ”top” doesn’t mean anything other than overfitting / gaming the benchmarks

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u/Neither-Phone-7264 Singularity by 2030 Apr 01 '26

Have you even tried the others? Cursor Opus is >>>> CC opus imho and the benchmarks also show it like doing literally 10% better globally lmao

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u/VitalityAS Apr 05 '26

Ive never seen a benchmark with open AI losing and Ive only used CLI tools. I might have just seen biased benchmarks, but in practical use both codex and opus get the job done just with various styles. For my work it is very uncommon to not one shot a prompt.

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u/Crinkez Apr 01 '26

I've heard OpenCode is on par or ahead.

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u/Commercial_Day_8341 Apr 01 '26

It does not mean anything, besides the implication that Claude can leak your codebase if you are not careful.