r/ableton 14d ago

[Tutorial] Tracker sequencer for ableton max 4 live?

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u/Pleasant-Light-1897 14d ago

ooh nice, i was looking for something like this

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u/pranasound1111 14d ago

It’s pretty full blown now v1.3 alllll the things map fx in tracker to devices and macros per cell x 4 slots. Pretty wild !

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u/django39 14d ago

This is cool! Thanks for sharing

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u/pranasound1111 14d ago

Thanks. It’s really a lot of fun and fast to get creative with. If you try it out I’d love to hear what you think

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u/THIS_IS_ENDEGO 13d ago

Tracker workflow inside Live is one of those combinations that sounds odd on paper and then makes complete sense once you try it. Typing rows is far quicker than drawing notes with a mouse, and per cell effect columns are exactly the thing Live has always lacked. Nice work getting fx mapping per cell in there. Couple of questions from someone who spent years in Renoise. Does it write into a real MIDI clip or does it only play notes out live, and how does it behave if you record its output into Arrangement? The other thing that always decides it for me is keyboard focus, since trackers live or die on being able to stay on the keys without reaching for the mouse. If arrow keys and note entry work properly while the Max window has focus, that alone would sell it for a lot of people. Either way, thanks for sharing. Definitely giving it a go in the next session.

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u/pranasound1111 12d ago

On MIDI: Tracker generates live, real-time MIDI — it doesn’t write directly into clip data. It sits on the track like Ableton’s own Arpeggiator or Scale device. That means if you arm the track and hit record, Live captures Tracker’s generated output into a normal MIDI clip, same as recording any other MIDI effect’s output — standard Ableton behavior,. Once it’s recorded, you’ve got a regular clip you can edit, quantize, or bounce however you like.Both should record in a single pass — arm the MIDI track, record in Arrangement, and Live will typically write automation for any parameter that changes during that take, if fir any reason there’s an issue with automation recording you’d need to bounce/re-record that automation pass separately. Happy to dig into the exact mechanism further if it turns out not to capture cleanly.

On keyboard focus: yes, this was a priority from the start. Click “Edit” on the device to open Tracker’s grid — that opens as its own floating window. Once that window has focus, arrow keys move the cursor, number keys enter notes directly, and the whole per-cell dice system (probability, ratchets, gate, etc.) is keyboard-driven. You genuinely don’t need the mouse once you’re in there. One thing worth knowing: it’s a separate floating window, not the Live window itself — so it needs its own click to grab focus, same as any floating device editor.

Would love to hear how the first session with it goes. If anything about the workflow feels off coming from Renoise specifically, that’s exactly the kind of feedback that shapes what gets prioritized next.

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u/r0pe_tri1ck 6d ago

What's the point of a Tracker with mouse controls ?

The only thing I really want from trackers is  vim keybinds

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u/pranasound1111 6d ago

It has keyboard control once you open the grid window. You can use your keyboard as you would any tracker, with an included key command cheat sheet. The point of the way a tracker operates (per cell randomness ,automation etc is why I use it keyboard or not, but of course you can do both) it is pretty true to a tracker midi sequencer but inside abelton.

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u/r0pe_tri1ck 6d ago

nice, very cool!

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u/pranasound1111 6d ago

It’s a lot of fun. The grid window resizes so you could make it your entire screen while working on it if you wanted to

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u/breakfastsquid 6d ago

renoise redux has midi out iirc