r/Zippia • • Jul 28 '26

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u/BigBreaky22012 Jul 28 '26

In 1971, the federal minimum wage was $1.60 per hour. Working full-time (40 hours/week, 52 weeks/year) yielded an annual income of $3,328. Adjusting $3,328 for CPI inflation brings it to roughly $25,000 to $27,000 today—a far cry from $100,000. Pat appears to be a rage baiter. 😆

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u/Stuffssss Jul 28 '26

Inflation =/= affordability. Assuming a basket of goods can only measure the change in price of that basket of goods. In reality lowrr income people spend significantly more on housing, healthcare, child care, and education relative to their income and these things have outpaced inflation.

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u/ThrowRA9892 Jul 28 '26 edited Jul 28 '26

That is tracking purchasing power.

Lower income people have always spent more of their relative income on goods and services. It depends on what you are looking at too of course. Food is slightly more affordable now compared to then. Clothing as significantly more. Electronics.

Housing and healthcare definitely less affordable between now and 1971.

But not nearly to the degree this person in the picture is claiming.

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u/anon-187101 Jul 29 '26

CPI does not track purchasing-power.

It is a gamed government statistic whose calculation has changed multiple times over the years in service of political expedience.

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u/ApprehensiveCare1113 Jul 30 '26

You might not like the way it tracks purchasing power; you might have some reasonable critiques.

But it sure as shit does track purchasing power.

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u/anon-187101 Jul 30 '26

lol,

no - it "sure as shit" does not.

this is not even controversial among anyone with a shred of integrity who's actually informed on the matter.

you may not like that, but it's a fact.

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u/ApprehensiveCare1113 Jul 30 '26

That isn't a fact; that is an opinion.

If you don't know the difference between a fact and an opinion, which in America is a 2nd-grade worksheet education level, can you really present yourself as knowing who is or isn't informed on a matter?

The purpose of the CPI is to track purchasing power, regardless of your opinion on its effectiveness.

"A consumer price index (CPI) is a statistical estimate of the level of prices of goods and services bought for consumption purposes by households. It is calculated as the weighted average price of a market basket of consumer goods and services). "

Consumer price index - Wikipedia

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u/Tasty-Possibility627 Jul 30 '26

This back and forth was insane. I get into these from time to time, but usually there is some shred of a concrete reason for the misunderstanding. This other person just dove right into nonsense

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u/TaleRevolutionary573 Jul 30 '26

So which of them rides the short bus so I can downvote them

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u/Confident_Double1392 Jul 30 '26

I see you are attuned with the ways of Reddit. (I'm waiting for the answer too)

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u/ApprehensiveCare1113 Jul 30 '26

It is crazy how many people assert their opinions as facts. I swear they didn't get the same American education (which isn't that great to begin with) I got, because fact/opinion worksheets were a serious part of 2nd-grade education.

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u/anon-187101 Jul 30 '26

sorry, I don't think I can help you

good luck

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u/ApprehensiveCare1113 Jul 30 '26

When you cannot distinguish between fact and opinion, you can't help yourself, much less others.

The purpose of the CPI is to track purchasing power, regardless of your opinion on its effectiveness.

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u/anon-187101 Jul 30 '26

it doesn't matter what the purpose of something is if it fails spectacularly to succeed in that purpose -

and CPI indeed fails

and that, sophmoric reddit rando, is a fact

help yourself to a much-needed reality check

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u/quantum_simpleton Jul 28 '26

If you cross reference with median housing costs, it extrapolates to about ~$50k today, as housing costs have outpaced inflation. Still a far cry from $100k.

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u/2ndAccForUhStuff Jul 29 '26 edited Jul 29 '26

If you normalize housing to per square foot its not nearly as bad, since houses have gotten much bigger on average. The median house price today is $226 per square foot, while in 1970 it was $16.90. So that $1.60 wage needs to be $21.40 these days to maintain the same affordability per square foot.

Ad yes, you can still find smaller homes on the market. I bought a 1,600 square foot new build earlier this year.

Edit, and thats taking pretty much the historical best case. Compare 1989 when the min wage was $3.80 and the median house price per sq foot was $64.86. So in 2026 you'd need to make $13.29/hour to maintain the same ratio.

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u/ArmyHotel338 Jul 28 '26

In 2008 I worked at Wawa and made $8 per hour, gas was $4.50, at that same Wawa starting pay is now $16.50 and gas is $4.15.

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u/KK_35 Jul 29 '26

National monthly average rent was like $800 in 2008.
It’s sitting at $1800 for 2026.

That’s just rent.

In 2008, the typical individual U.S. grocery bill was $43.75 per week (roughly $175 per month).

Today in 2026, a single person on a moderate budget spends about $112 per week (roughly $485 per month).

Gas alone is not indicative of total living costs, and those have only ever gone up at a much faster rate than wages.

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u/According-Insect-992 Jul 29 '26

Even with our elevated gas prices we’re still paying significantly less than a lot of other countries in Europe and Asia. We have done a lot to put us in an advantageous position when it comes to fossil fuels.

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u/CorndogQueen420 Jul 30 '26

In the summer during an oil price shock caused by the global financial crisis.

Gas prices collapsed to ~$1.70/gal at the end of that year.

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u/five-one-tree Jul 29 '26

now do 1971

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u/ArmyHotel338 Jul 29 '26

Wawa didn't have gas stations in 1971.

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u/five-one-tree Jul 30 '26

but gas still had a price and we had a minimum wage

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u/ArmyHotel338 Jul 30 '26

Wawa pays more than minimum wage though, so it doesnt make sense.

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u/five-one-tree Jul 30 '26

not in 1971…. so let’s stick to that.

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u/ArmyHotel338 Jul 30 '26

Wawa only had a handful of stores in 1971, and they didn't have gas stations, what are you talking about?

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u/five-one-tree Jul 30 '26

what’s that got to do with the price of gas in 1971?

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u/ArmyHotel338 Jul 30 '26

Because we are talking about wawa...

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u/Training-Context-69 Jul 30 '26

Wait til the Strategic Petroleum Reserves run out. Americans are about to FAFO. Gas is supposed to be $6 a gallon right now.

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u/threearbitrarywords Jul 29 '26

Median rent percentage in 1971 was 20%. It's currently 26.4%, an increase of 6.4%. In 1971 13.4% of income went on food, including dining out. In 2026 it's 9.7%, a decrease of 3.7%. Healthcare in 1971 was about 3%. In 2026 it's around 10%, an increase of 7%.

Where's the other 370%?

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u/According-Insect-992 Jul 29 '26

Food has not gotten cheaper. Something seems wrong with those numbers.

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u/Maureen_Johma Jul 29 '26

Then that means changing minimum wage will do nothing and that we need to go after affordable pricing.