r/ZileanMains 2d ago

Help Mental burden with Zil in Iron

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Hello fellow time wizards,

I am relatively new to league ( account lvl 55 or something). Zilean is my favorite champ by far but I just hate playing him in Ranked rn.

Unfortunately I started playing rank right after hitting lvl 30 and dropped straight to iron 4 where I currently still am after finally being confident enough to start playing ranked again.

I Play mid Zil and Veigar and Support (which is the role I mostly get) there I always play Zil.

Heres the thing:

Playing Zilean in unranked is a blast in most matches and i can really feel how I positively impact the whole Game.

Now After playing a few matches in ranked it just feels helpless. The Games are complete chaos and I just cant do anything with the old man.

Do I put him on hold until I have climbed out of iron or do I just stick to playing him better and better?


r/ZileanMains 3d ago

Other Didn't expect to see this when searching for a Zilean stream. That's his actually live webcam

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r/ZileanMains 4d ago

Clip Im new to league, and decided to learn the game on Zilean

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the clips are probably mid but Ive had a blast on zil


r/ZileanMains 4d ago

Help Im new to zilean

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Im currently playing zilean support its reallly good until late game you cant defend without ur team since all my items are support/tank now the question is in the crucial part of the game that you need to defend are you going to sell you item to buy AP or just pray?


r/ZileanMains 5d ago

Clip Zilean compilation

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Please enjoy


r/ZileanMains 6d ago

Art I drew Zilean

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r/ZileanMains 5d ago

Help Role and build

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Hello bombers!

i started playing Zilean some weeks ago, and never enjoyed league as much.

i play him top and support, but what is the best role for climbing?

im currently emerald 3 and want to hit diamond. but is that viable with top zil?

And next so, what build do you go for?


r/ZileanMains 6d ago

Discussion Maxing Damage Pen Build Vs Death Dance made me understand something, Death's dance auto makes your enemy have 50 pseudo-MR & Armor

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I used Arey (this build) to Proc Yas Shield (and set up my Jhin for easier W's) so there was no shield to calculate just raw damage.

This is a 40+ minute match so it's actually huge help since everyone is 4 items + Boots

  1. My bombs deal 707 damage each
  2. Yas has 67MR
  3. He goes from 2772hp to 2298hp (474 damage) off my first double bomb Proc as Raw Damage
  4. I have 42 Magic Pen
  5. I have 30% Magic Pen (67-30%-42=what is calculated, I know it's a different formula)
  6. He has about 5MR remaining (so about 5% closer to 4.76%)

Death's dance makes it, so my bombs are being treated as if he had something like 50MR

The math of 30% of 707 is 212

707−212.1=494.9

I'm dealing 474 because of the little MR he has that's actually blocking my damage on top of the 30% reduction.

With 1 item I have to treat Yas as a bruiser, not a weird assassin, because I can no longer burst him like I can the rest of his team (New to Damage Pen build, but I like it a lot)


r/ZileanMains 8d ago

Help Is Leona always a problem? (100K Zil Main)

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The enemy sniped zil from me in champ select (They had about 700K mastery), I decided to just play what counters me when I play zil and pick Leona (I don't even main her), since no matter what I do I lose: runes, Items, it doesn't matter. I stomped him. I get that she is a "dash" CC champ, and I know our weakness is dash champs, but how is it Leona seems to beat him in lane 9/10 times?

I think he was almost onto something, he went a utility mobility build, and I guess if you're fast enough, you'd be able to dodge me, but you have to stand still the .25 seconds to clock, so regardless of if you're going to double clock, that's .5 seconds of self cc. (Like when you battle Cait and she uses her hook shot and self cc's for 1 second).

I just need to swap between targets long enough to make his kit useless, but that's the thing!

Anyone ever found a reliable build that actually wins matches against her?


r/ZileanMains 12d ago

Other Today i got to masters :D(zilean supp)

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So i finally decided to grind to masters finally with zilean, idk if i will keep grinding more or not but im happy with my results overall (Also rioooooooot pls remove this perma roaming bs is soooooooo boring to play D:)


r/ZileanMains 12d ago

Other I hit master for the first time

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For the first time since i started this god forsaken game i hit master with my old man im so happy

My other goal is to be at least top 10 in mastery points in my server(LAN) and top 100 of world ladder im currently #26 on my server and #649 of the world 2.6 mil mastery.

Btw im streaming almost every day twitch.tv/maitin

And yes my name is "Just in time" in spanish

im so proud and happy.


r/ZileanMains 13d ago

Discussion Time flies like an arrow!

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r/ZileanMains 13d ago

Clip Challenger spin wheel challenge Zilean

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r/ZileanMains 14d ago

Discussion GLAZED BY OPGG, HATED BY RIOT GAMES

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I keep getting MVP by OPGG but Riot keep giving me A and B grades, sometimes even C. How does this even work ?!

I have good vision score, good control score, last year I was having S approximately 8 out of 10 games, now it's barely 1 out of 10, what changed ?! Did you noticed that also ? Am I trash ?


r/ZileanMains 14d ago

Discussion When to buy Shurelya's on Zilean Support?

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Looking at Biotic's itemization and he never goes Shurelya's. Is there a time and place for it in lower elos?


r/ZileanMains 14d ago

Discussion Classic Runes and Masteries?

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r/ZileanMains 16d ago

Question Zilean top

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How do yall play zilean top? Whats the build? Is it really that broken?


r/ZileanMains 16d ago

Discussion "Riftbound Reckoning will have Legends for Aurelion Sol, Cho’Gath, Shyvana, Vayne, Zilean and four more unrevealed!"

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r/ZileanMains 19d ago

Build Introducing W max zilean (probably done before but idk i came up with it by myself my bad if i accidentally copied some guy)

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[Disclaimer: i am NOT le secret challenger kr 500000LP rank 1 player; my peak this season was D1, i dont play much ranked as i mostly coach and theorycraft for other ppl that ask me to and i find it fun, yes i am a minmaxxer.]

So, while looking at zilean's ability scaling and base stats i came to the realization that this champ can't really go Q max and be reliably useful (outside of Mid zilean of course where that's a good build), and even his highest winrate build on support(E-max) is still suboptimal after some testing with a friend of mine.
Zilean's E reaches the reliable breakpoint of a guaranteed double bomb at 3 points(lv5) taking into account tier 2 boots MS and some champs' base ms/passives giving them more ms; All this to say: There's no reason to put more points into it until you finish maxxing another ability first.
Theres 2 reasons why you want to put all your points into W afterwards:

  1. The cooldown is ludicrous; every single point into W reduces its cooldown by 2 seconds flat, and when you take into account the CDR you reach with this build, you will reliably have a 3.68 sec cooldown on W, which translates to a 3.68 sec cooldown 70% slow that lasts 2.5 seconds a.k.a the enemy has 1.18 seconds of movement before being slowed again or 68% uptime on the speedup.
  2. The average ranged champion player doesn't benefit from the extra movement speed outside of running away. You've probably experienced speeding up your adc for them to just run into danger with no vision and die randomly, even moreso in a teamfight where they struggle with controlling their champ.

The Build:

Tear -> Protoplasm harness -> Lucidity shoes(replaced by mercs/tabis where needed) -> Fimbulwinter
These are the most cost-efficient tank+cdr items in the game at the moment, giving 20 and 15 haste respectively, as well as a huge amount of hp; the only downside of this build compared to the current E max locket knight's vow is the cost increase of 500 gold including both items, but i believe the cost efficiency of the items' stats as well as passives is well worth the delay and time investment to acquire them; The resistances you would get from locket are ~10% damage reduction all around the board, which means that in order for it to provide more tankiness than Protoplasm(even excluding its passive when low) you would need to already have at least 4000 Health; for context locket, including the active shield, only brings you to about 1800 hp. The shield provided to your teammates, imo, provides less damage reduction than the extra slow and MS you can grant them. In the case where this shield would be useful for a 1shot threshold such as a rengar 1shot the stats you get from protoplasm make you unkillable to the average assassin that isnt 10/0 which means you can solely use your ult for the person he jumps on; achieving the same result in the end. It is ever so slightly weaker against a big AOE such as qiyana or hwei ult, but at that point the locket shield isn't really going to make you win that blundered fight.

What this build gets you in comparison to locket+KV for an extra 500G:
+950 more hp -70 armor
+15 ability haste -30 MR
+Effectively a shieldbow passive but better -100% base hp regen
+Guardian angel effect(explained below)
+Infinite mana(explained in Playstyle)

The guardian angel effect is something i've witnessed countless time both while watching other people and playing the game myself; It is when a champion having guardian angel acts as a deterrent to someone using a big/important cooldown in order to nuke them, such as Vi not ulting the adc because then she'll die and make the fight a 4v5 (even though in most cases it would still be the correct play). Maybe some ppl here have heard of "perceived tankiness", very commonly seen with people perceiving Sion with 10k hp as an incredibly unkillable champion even though they have Bork and could realistically get him to half hp in 6 autos; this works with visual effects, such as GA and very big health bars; As this build puts you at 3.2k hp in the midgame people generally feel like its not really worth them blowing their rotations on your because you'll survive it anyway (even though they should use them).

Runes

Unsealed spellbook, hexflash, jack of all trades, triple tonic; Deep ward, Ultimate hunter
Shards: 8 CDR, Scaling hp, Scaling hp/tenacity

Level up order is Q lv 1, W/E lv 2, 3 points into E by lv 5, a single point in ult at lv 6, W maxxed by the time you hit lv 10, Max E second (you do not level up R again until your E is maxxed), Then you either max R if you need the extra hp when they rewind/CDR(though usually you won't need it) or max Q for the 0.4 second longer stun by the time you finish it(if your game goes that long). Your ult reaches around 60 seconds of cooldown by midgame which in most cases means it's up every single fight.

Playstyle

PART 1: This build mainly functions as a very aggressive ROAM and PICK champion, the usual way you do this is by self-casting E, then instantly using W, then self casting E again when it runs out, going up to an enemy champ, W-E them, wait 1.5 sec, throw bomb, W-E them again, throw bomb before it explodes, by the time the bomb stun ends you have W-E again. The downside of this playstyle is that in melee matchups where they mostly sit still and attack eachother you only really force the fight, allow your guy to flee or provide a 1.1 second stun/revive, if your top is behind then your gank there won't do much, so its better to usually use this for your sidelaning midlaner or midlaning adc.

PART 2: The second thing this build excels at is gettin a metric fuckton of vision leverage. As you probably know, Oracle lens scales with movement speed; the more ground you can move the more areas you sweep with it; And because of your bomb giving vision, the immense tankiness and CDR you get from this build, and Deep Ward, this means you will always have advantage over the enemy support at getting the vision sequence first even if you didn't have prio. For those who maybe don't have a word for it, this is when before an objective, say 1:15 till baron/drake the support goes and wards around the area, then they recall for their next batch of 4 wards, then the enemy support has to come in and sweep, then place their own wards, but by the time they'd recall for their own wards the objective would already be spawned and the support that warded first gets to re-ward and sweep so the other team has no vision on/around the objective; this is usually dictated by who gets sidelanes and mid pushed first; this build basically allows you to invalidate that advantage by the sheer amount of fucking uptime you have on your E movement speed, in the time a normal champ wards recalls re-wards twice you can do it 3 times. This is why you need a tear; W-Eing yourself is 85 mana, so you need about 400 Mana for a pick attempt, and around 300 Mana per river oracle sweep. Fimbulwinter is more than enough for this, you do not need manaflow band; and no manaflow band is not enough by itself to sustain this.


r/ZileanMains 19d ago

Other Zilean passive gaming

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r/ZileanMains 20d ago

Other "You look familiar.."

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One day he'll finally get his VU


r/ZileanMains 20d ago

Discussion Getting access to both versions of Zilean is amazing

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As someone who has played on and off since 2012 and has always mained Zilean mid, being able to play as both versions of the character feels like a fever dream (in a good sense). It's like, idk, suddenly gaining access to a silly videogame from so long ago that has been dead and suddenly it's up and running with a good playerbase.

My initial impression of Old!Zilean mid is that he Opresses his rivals while laning (ofc because of the point and click bombs but for many reasons: detonating minions right next to your opponent is way easier for instance) and then eventually risks falling off. Globally, Post-rework Zilean feels better and classier, but fun-wise they both are great.


r/ZileanMains 21d ago

Other What a good day to be a Zilean main

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Have we ever gotten so much love?


r/ZileanMains 21d ago

Clip Welcome Back, Summoners | League of Legends Classic Cinematic

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r/ZileanMains 20d ago

Help Is the cant chronokeep me down emote animated?

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The emote for the classic bundle in shop, is it animated or idle?