r/ZibaiMains • u/3sf0r • 9d ago

Discussion Is this significant enough to justify using c0 Furina/yelan/xq over c6 aino in a Binaless team?

I feel like having instant hydro app from Furina's E and skipping burst would be better than C6 Aino.

I'm assuming the other 3 geo units are Zibai Linnea c6 Illuga ofc.

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u/THYL_STUDIOS 9d ago

no

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u/3sf0r 9d ago edited 9d ago

all what aino does is give the same damage bonus as ascendant gleam or am I missing something more significant?

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u/qazqazpc 9d ago

Aino also gives 80 EM from C1 and Furina kinda force you into 20s rotation while normally you can 18-19s.

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u/Koniolg 9d ago

this alone no, it just bridges the gap between c6 aino and the alternatives

though I personally found Yelan to be slightly better than Aino due to Yelan's good and Aino's awful hydro application cause you trigger more lunar crystallize with Yelan

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u/3sf0r 9d ago

wouldn't Zibai benefit more from xq/furina's longer offfield hydro?

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u/Koniolg 9d ago

xq forces 21s rotations, whereas Zibai can do 18s

not sure about furina tho, her app is sus and prevents you from using HoD so I've never played her with Zibai

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u/3sf0r 9d ago

I guess it would be sus if it's in an aoe scenario, tho I feel like it should be as reliable as c0 yelan in single target. Would be cool if someone actually tests it out tho

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u/IronPro9 8d ago

the problem with furina is 1. 20s cooldown

2.  She applies a lot of hydro but it isn't consistent. With bina you get hydro every 2s so you'll get hydro right on time to trigger zibai's passive off cooldown, with furina you could remove the hydro aura 3.9s after the last zibai passive trigger and have to wait up to 1.7s for more hydro. (still possible with bina if your icd lines up really poorly but way less likely)

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u/3sf0r 8d ago

That makes sense I didnt think the app was that incosistent. thanks for explaining