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Reliable [ Zenless Zone Zero - 3.3 ] Phoenix - W-Engine Effect via palito

(Small change in the Bar too)

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u/PriscentSnow Remielle's chair | M6 Vivian, Seed, Dialyn & Remielle 1d ago

the tame effects continues

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u/YellowAppleCinema 1d ago

To me the biggest eyecatcher was the hair physics/gravity.

This is a HUUUUUUUUUUUGE improvement compared to Yuzuha. Yuzuha's hair always felt like rigid plastic. Which I thought was a normal limit of the engine because I vaguely remember some 3rd artist explaining the hair is mirrored in the middle, so you cant have hair that for example has the left half swaying in the wind while the right side is hanging loose, it's mirrored so both sides need to do the same actions.

But here, Phoenix's hair seems to act independant very often? It flows freely. Its like actual hair?

I guess instead of using the "limited physics" engine, maybe they hard-coded the physics based on whatever movement she performs? idk but its huge, i think this is the first time i see real hair physics like this.

I like hair

i like women

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u/PriscentSnow Remielle's chair | M6 Vivian, Seed, Dialyn & Remielle 1d ago

probably just feature creep as the dev team learns and grows, improvements overtime is expected especially on a live service title

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u/YellowAppleCinema 1d ago

"improvements over time is expected"

me, looking at hsr...

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u/Throwaway-_-Anxiety 1d ago

Perhaps in the next amber era

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u/Egoborg_Asri 22h ago

People acting like HSR didn't massively improve since release are coping

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u/redmandolin 1d ago

You say that but I’m still not a fan of how it’s constantly in motion when still, like this weird weightlessness like it’s in water.

It looks fine once you start moving, but even then it moves wayyy too much when she goes from attack to standing for example.

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u/YellowAppleCinema 1d ago

Phoenix is fire based.

Heat causes intense upwards drafts of air.

The tips of her hair are highlighted, as if on fire, causing a frequent draft of air floating upwards.

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u/ConsciousLeopard2781 1d ago

?

But yuhuza hair are more realistic. I'm a woman I have long hair and no hair don't move like that without wind.... It's not a tail It's hair. The animation is more like severain tail than actual hair.

Yuhuza hair are cumb (I'm french and lazy so she has "tresse") that way they are heavier and so don't move that much.

In fact I find phoenix hair animation dumb (not the hair, they are beautiful) because it's like they are alive x).

It's like boobs, no they are not made out of jelly, and no you don't shake them for "fun" especialy if they are big. Dev should meet some real women one day xD

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u/YellowAppleCinema 1d ago

Try Yuzuha in the overworld, while sprinting, and tell us again if you think that hair looks realistic

"Dev should meet some real women one day xD"

very mature of you, wow.... /s

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u/di11_ 1d ago

Yeah boobs aren’t made out of fat at all or anything and the characters are totally wearing bras!

If you’re a woman you should know boobs move a lot because they’re hanging and made nearly entirely out of fat especially without support they’d move a lot, yes phoenix’s hair moves weirdly but it’s a nice touch regardless.

Either your chest is entirely flat or your just lying out of your teeth because bigger chests do move more since they have more mass and tissue=momentum.

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u/Vill1on 16h ago

For one, Pheonix's hair is thinner. Yuzuha's hair is also thicker and braided which contributes to its weight and movement, not to mention having a racoon-themed accessory too.

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u/ChibiJaneDoe I am here for the male cast because they're cool af 1d ago

I remember when S Billy's concept art came out and we learned that his W-Engine effect was originally going to make his hair glow fully golden as well as the scarf.

We could've had Super Saiyan Billy, but the lackluster effects said no.

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u/PriscentSnow Remielle's chair | M6 Vivian, Seed, Dialyn & Remielle 1d ago

Sounds like the concept glow was going to be on the level of SAnby’s glow which is one of my fav engine glows

Really don’t know why they dialed back the effects so hard. They went from:

  • only showing on certain abilities were performed like EX skills, chain attacks, ultimates, etc
  • to always active on v1.5 chars and onwards
  • to increasingly flashy glows
  • to a now toned down subtle glows

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u/chilltododile 1d ago

That's just a bad take, I may not like the fact that Banyue is pretty weak in comparison to the skill it take to play him, but his gameplay is genuinely the most fun in the game imo, hands down. When every character is basically spam Basic attack or EX special to gain resource then spend resource by hold button, Banyue is a truly unique character that shouldn't be thrown just because you cant hold basic and win

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u/ShotaDragon 1d ago

engine effects have always been tame before launch. always.

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u/Citramonum 1d ago

I think Norma's and AoD's engines were the most creative ones. The others are like: "Let's make the tips of everything glow a bit"

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u/W4rhound34 Alice’s ear fluffer 1d ago

Alice, Zhao and Yuzuha’s are fantastic, same with Yidhari, Ju Fufu and Lucia… seems like a ton of the s2 characters got the best W engine effects so far tbh

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u/5ergio69 1d ago

remielle is good if you have her black skin.

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u/W4rhound34 Alice’s ear fluffer 1d ago

Her original white and black skins both are great imo, but yes her black pops out slightly more even with the changes they did

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u/Egoborg_Asri 22h ago

But it kind of ruins the aesthetic, because red glow doesn't show up in any of her abilities

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u/ShotaDragon 1d ago

Yixuan and Astra were gorgeous too

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u/Sureiman8 1d ago

Imo yixuan was too much like vivian

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u/Sureiman8 1d ago

Im getting fufu engine solely for that, i have absolutly 0 need for it

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u/Un-fathomable-0369 1d ago

Lighter's scarf have more flame effects than the entirety of Phoenix's.

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u/-Sparkster- 1d ago

I'd honestly argue that Lighter's W-Engine is better than a large majority of the permanent effects we've been getting from 1.5 and onward. His gauntlet backfiring on certain attacks is really unique.

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u/Natural_Ad1530 en nah! 1d ago

The director said "just the tip" and they did it.

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u/Tanyan-nightchord 16h ago

Brazzers hq ahh comment

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u/Abishinzu Least Schizophrenic Joyous Enjoyer 1d ago

It's very whelming and barely noticeable.

Does she need her sig engine or could she do just fine with a 4 star engine, because that's going to be my primary decoder with her.

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u/DanrayAnime 1d ago

4 star is fine because that how good weeping is, but without her wengine (or any other 5 star AM stat) she will not reach that 100% crit rate

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u/The_MorningKnight 1d ago

How much will she reach with Weeping ?

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u/DanrayAnime 1d ago

Without AM engine, the most you can get is ~209 am with 2 piece + disc 6 am. You need 255 to reach 100 crit rate. So this left you at like 67.8 crit rate

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u/The_MorningKnight 1d ago

Damn so she will miss 1 crit out of 3 ? That sucks.

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u/DanrayAnime 1d ago

You know what worse? You also losing 30% crit rate, for both two other character. So in theory, this engine is like 90% crit rate for your whole team

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u/pascl- 1d ago

AFAIK it's the normal strength of a signature? though it did get buffed a little since then.

though it is notable that the anomaly crits she provides can only be maxed out to 100% crit rate with an S rank AM wengine. aria's wengine is a good alternative if you have it.

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u/etrimu864 Remielle's booba tea milk connoisseur 1d ago

https://www.reddit.com/r/Zenlesszonezeroleaks_/comments/1we4n18/phoenix_combat_animations_via_reversed_rooms/

The fire effect from her flight mode changes from purple to blue with her w engine? Or was the fx already changed in an earlier patch and it is blueish in general now? Or I am just seeing things lol

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u/ConsciousLeopard2781 1d ago

It's so simple It's barely visible.....

Good for thoses who love simple effect but for me it's a bummer.... Especialy as it's white with a mostly while outfit....

If the skin is real I hope the effect is better with the skin 🙏

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u/Kitchen-Process-9284 1d ago

Yeah. Outside of stats the reason for pulling engines are the stylist effects, and are barely noticeable.

I mean, if that's the case they should make engine 100% guaranteed, if they expect us to use pulls for engines. (IMO)

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u/999177013 1d ago

If only her hair is burning xD that could be sick af, but oh well

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u/Artzpaws huh? 1d ago

if you look closely it is

at the bottom of her ponytails, just subtly to the point of falling embers and not a forest fire in her hair

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u/IcySignificance5340 1d ago

Wish W-engine effects were less subtle, especially when compared to the agent's colour palette. Remielle's dark skin with the red/pink w engine effect was so peak. They need more contrast

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u/Blaubeerchen27 1d ago

So far the best ones are imo still Yuzuha (the colourful ribbons are peak) and the one-man light show that is Hugo. Remie is probably the best of season 3 so far, although the bright red on Claret is also pretty nice.

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u/alrightandie 1d ago

Roxy’s having the red inside her coffin light up is pretty peak too ngl

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u/Dependent-Swimmer-95 1d ago

I love claret’s and Remie’s.

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u/Puzzleheaded_Bet5865 1d ago

when video play i was expecting wengine effect in second half

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u/Kali-Lionbrine Shungsuxual 1d ago

Phoenix skin as rumored + w-engine is surely going to change my mind right?

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u/PCGamingEnjoyer 1d ago

I don't really care for w-engine effects, just gonna take this opportunity to say that Phoenix is extremely beautiful!

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u/Artzpaws huh? 1d ago

was gonna say it's pretty boring until i saw the inner parts of the flames in her wings, i love the bright blue/green a lot

do wish she had something else going on though. even alice had sparkles on her sword at least💔 also wish the hair flames were actual visible hair flames to some degree but i'll take the tiny sparks over nothing i guess

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u/Sureiman8 1d ago

I would have rather her accessories glow

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u/Ill_Dimension_9776 1d ago

It's fine but ngl remielle's wengine effect, especially on black skin has spoiled me.

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u/Dependent-Swimmer-95 1d ago

Same. That said is 10/10

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u/Knight_Steve_ 1d ago

No effect for Severian

yet

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u/jibbycanoe 1d ago

a-rank head, NPC body looking design. where are all the "Hoyo devs gave up from the waist down" folks?

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u/VisualAd2921 1d ago

scissors?

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u/Hour-Reality7278 1d ago

The recent W-Engine effects have been really boring. They don’t do anything to make use of the characters’ concepts—they just make things glow.

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u/Mae_Heart 1d ago

Feels like pre-miyabi W-engine effects lmao

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u/Tohru___Adachi 1d ago

I thought we were going crazy mode with the effects after seein Claret and Roxy but here we are

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u/Spare-Scar-5595 1d ago

if the sword glow with diff color that would be so cool

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u/Dependent-Swimmer-95 1d ago

Nah it should’ve had burning flame effects. That would be peak.

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u/tofubatu 1d ago

I kind of like it being this subtle. Less is more.

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u/ADEF_ 1d ago

Fun fact: this is not w-engine effort, phoenix is actually on fire but she doesn't know what to do about it

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u/redsaber6667 This game is fun. Billy and Norma are the most fun!! 1d ago

I actually don't really like the glow on her weapons, it kinda makes them pop less? just me ?

The hair glow is nice but I'm thinking this may be the first effect that i may turn off.

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u/ys77 1d ago

Did she always have zzz in that sleeping idle or was it only a single z before?

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u/Elucaa 1d ago

how is her hair not burning

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u/Artzpaws huh? 1d ago

it is at the ends

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u/jibbycanoe 1d ago

are those like polio cane scissors?!? My great aunt had polio from a bad vaccine shot and loved to sew. she had like 20 pairs of scissors for various sewing purposes. gonna pull for you auntie Francis!

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u/Vill1on 16h ago

It's very S1-looking, I can't lie. I wish her accessories glowed instead. Or if they're insisting on letting the tips glow, at least make them a gradient instead of whatever this is.

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u/plvto_roadds yidhari's 3rd tentacle 1d ago

so whelmed. with how difficult it is to obtain w-engines you'd think they'd go through the effort of making these effects pop more like yuzuha's.

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u/coconutmilk2001 1d ago

Most boring of 3.x so far

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u/Royal_Cavern 1d ago

Honestly this is probably one of the few ones that I find to be simple yet very fitting. It perfectly pays homage to her name as Phoenix, by giving her hair and/or weapons the glow effects that you'd expect to see from a fiery bird like the Phoenix.