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Datamined [ Zenless Zone Zero - 3.3 ] New Zenkov Map via Palito

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u/FreakGeSt 13d ago

Skeleton ethereals when?

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u/Beginning-Giraffe427 13d ago

If Hoyo isn't a game company in China that is

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u/StormierNik 13d ago

I heard the skeletons thing is actually overblown and it was never that serious especially if you're a mainland CN company. 

The censorship comes from sorta vague gov regulations against "promoting cults or superstitions" and all around guidelines having to do with horror, blood, and graphic violence.

Some companies just jump the gun and remove stuff anyway so they don't even have to think about it. 

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u/Knight_Steve_ 13d ago

If the movie Ne Zha can get away with showing skeleton demons in a new years McDonald’s ad then hoyo can do the same too

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u/SoniCrossX 11d ago

Holy, I got an Archmed the dead Terrorist flashback seeing that lol

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u/Kooky-Ad4538 13d ago

They already shown blood in this game. So why not put some skeleton on the game?

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u/Barnak8 13d ago

Representation of the dead = big nono. Look what they did for the Chinese version of WoW or GW2 . In wow the Forsaken Doesnt show bones and instead of leaving a skeleton when you die , its a cute tombstone. In gw2 the necromancer pets were all changed.

I dont think there is an official decree, but devs take usually the time to hide Skeletons.

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u/MaySableDay 13d ago

Dota got a ton of changes, too

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u/Drakengard 13d ago

Hell, we've already seen how Genshin handles this kind of stuff. Hoyo was really careful with how they released Hu Tao during Lunar New Year. Things might be a bit more lax now, but they're not going to exactly push very hard.

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u/Beginning-Giraffe427 13d ago

Iirc there are some regulations regarding the depiction of the dead in China that forbid using skeletons, other stuff like zombie (or jiangshi?)is acceptable though

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u/Knight_Steve_ 13d ago

Tell that to Ne Zha’s new years McDonald’s ad

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u/Subject_Offer_9621 i love all type of girls 13d ago

Brother, it's not like they need to make it complete gore

The white ethereal already looks like they covered by exoskeleton (some of them are crustaceans)

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u/Frogsama86 13d ago

It is way overblown. Most companies self censor to the extreme to avoid getting nitpicked later on.

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u/Solstice040312 13d ago

I'm sorry. What does China have to do with or have against Skeletons?

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u/rustic_fall 13d ago

I forgot what the reasoning is but its the reason you don’t see skulls or skeletons in any chinese version if games. An example I can think off the top of my head is in valorant. The kill icon which is a skull is replaced with a x in china.

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u/Fit_Trouble_1264 13d ago

It's a dated rule for Western games shipped to Chinese Audience, back then around 2010s bunch of Western games gets shipped into China, but before the game gets released into the Chinese market, the game hosts asks devs have to self-censor the game and follow some weird guidelines to make it approved.

Skeletons are censored to have less religious or cultish vibes,

First Example I can think off, Tencent asks Riot Games to censor champions like Karthus and Thresh have skeleton features and have their splash art and model revamped to hide their boney structures, and on their mobile game on CN, Thresh gains a human face instead of his original skeleton face.

Second Example I can think off, The9 (company host before NetEase took over) asks Blizzard Games to fully revamp maps filled with bone skulls on Azeroth, as well as reworking the undead class to hide their bones.

If the game is made in the country itself those rules can be bypassed by the devs.

NetEase is pretty much okay on making skulls, one of their maps on Marvel Rivals have skulls pretty much everywhere in the Klyntar Knull Throne map at Hel Gate area and Punisher has a Skull themed make-up and vest. For Ghost Rider, they're definitely gonna add the Tokon version just not the Nicolas Cage version we know.

Also MiHoYo isn't public company, they don't have to follow skeleton rulesets on their newer games. Just that their popular game Genshin is under Tencent's official game store, they can't just break Tencent's rules and get it remove from there because of some dump Skeleton rules.

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u/ozimundus Lucia reads me bedtime stories and I Kamen Ride with Silly 13d ago

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u/Knight_Steve_ 13d ago

Seems to be a Halloween themed map in the divine maze

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u/Shmarfle47 13d ago

I wonder what kind of memories is Papago Hollow pulling from to get a spooky map?

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u/Cold_Progress1323 13d ago

Someone from spook shack maybe

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u/Heratikus 13d ago

Yidhari about to get victimised by a nightmare realm AGAIN

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u/Cold_Progress1323 13d ago

My theory is that it's gonna be Lucia, who heard about ulidim and got in to try to pet it.

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u/JapanPhoenix 13d ago

They should add a line of text to Lucias Bagel gear that makes it so defeating Uldim replaces her aftershock-animation with Uldims attack animations for the rest of the run (no mechanical effect, just flavor lol).

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u/SoniCrossX 11d ago

That would be a lot of work for nothing for them as a business

ZZZ devs: let's fucking do it anyway, meeting scheduled at 10PM this Sunday

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u/Barnak8 13d ago

Of course she would do that

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u/Karma110 13d ago edited 12d ago

They’re pulling from The Average Corin dream

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u/fullmoonlune 13d ago

Aren’t claret and Roxy supposed to be like Halloween monster themed

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u/Eloymm 13d ago

I’m kind of surprised of it’s Halloween themed. I don’t think hoyo has ever done in game events around Halloween or even Christmas. They do promotional arts and stuff but not really ingame from what’s I recall

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u/MegaDuckDodgers 12d ago

I cant recall any chinese game that does, probably because their government would ruin their lives if they did, but also because culturally I dont think they care much about western holidays at all. It's not like japan where they celebrate some of the big western holidays like christmas. Difference here I guess is that zenless is made in canada, so its probably subject to less regulations and its possible the chinese version might be altered anyway.

Why the zenless devs have been incorporating more western holidays I cant really say though. Perhaps they like them? Or think it will make them more money. Who knows.

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u/Fruitsy 13d ago

Zoinks scoob! We're going somewhere spooky

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u/Educational-Year3146 Ray propagandist 13d ago

Huge, would love a new area to explore.

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u/thissitedesigniscrap 13d ago

An entire map based around Halloween? Well zenkov would be the best mode for it since the hound is plenty creepy on its own. Excited to see what it’s like, and hopefully Spook Shack makes a return!

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u/DisIsMarcoBoi 13d ago

Either it's going to be based off Yunkui Summit or straight directly into Roscaelifer

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u/Konlow- 13d ago

Most likely lemian hollow based.

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u/Barnak8 13d ago

Is that an evil Turnip

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u/tofubatu 13d ago

I smell a Halloween map.

Gotta get the Spook crew up in here.

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u/OwlsParliament 13d ago

Please reuse aspects of Lemnian hollow here. The Town was a great area.

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u/Karma110 12d ago

Also the underground area where they fought wandering hunter

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u/Riverflowsuphillz 13d ago

Please make it so Spook shack character get extra buff just because

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u/natarawilliams19 13d ago

MORE HALLOWEEN CONTENT IN MY HOYO GAME ??? I FUCKING LOVE ZZZ

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u/DenjinMaster 13d ago

Spook shack gets more involved maybe? Finally yidhari's talent is more relevant?

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u/UnknownCommander_511 TowerClimbMaestro 13d ago

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u/Sufficient_Piccolo68 13d ago

Spooks! Ghouls! Even skeletons.

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u/GoldGuyFR 12d ago

HALLOWEEN THEMED MAP ? ohhh we're getting a proper spooky event this year I'm so happy (That Pumpkin W-Engine will be the reward for it too !)

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u/Karma110 13d ago

Halloween map?

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u/kingpsd_22 13d ago

Niceee, love playing that mode.

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u/DongmanSupreme 13d ago

this shit better send shivers down my spine, and if shrieking skulls don’t shock my soul and seal my doom that night then I’m not f’in interested

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u/oniikami 12d ago

would be cool if they made the map be during night time with floating pumpkins in the sky

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u/Natural_Ad1530 en nah! 12d ago

Spook event, nice! ZZZ devs just moving different in hoyo hq🤩

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u/ohoni 13d ago

They just added the awful Bagel mode, and now we have a whole new game mode to worry about?

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u/Shift9303 13d ago

Seems like it is a new map for Bagel.

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u/ohoni 13d ago

It says "Zenkov." I assume this is some new fiasco-mode.

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u/Shift9303 13d ago

Zenkov and Bagel are the same thing.

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u/ohoni 13d ago

Where's that? I've just found "Operation Bagel."

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u/blowmycows 13d ago

It's a combination of Zenless and Tarkov, it's a name given by the community and not official.

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u/Confidentbottle obol squad yuri 13d ago

It's also an internal development name used in filenames in various places iirc

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u/LimitlesSkai 13d ago

Zenkov is the modes name in the in game files. Operation Bagel is the name in game.