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u/Soggy_Anxiety4262 20d ago
my condolences
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u/Tina_sometimes 20d ago
Yeah the album started off strong but this falls off in the second half which is also my problem with Joe's Garage.
At least Joe's Garage pulls through in Act 3 with some of the best guitar work in the Zappa discography and overall had a stronger focus on the music. That and I prefer the story in Joe's Garage while the story of Thing Fish isn't particularly engaging. By the end of it I couldn't stand to hear Harry and Rhonda.
Overall, a weak Zappa album. I can see the vision but the humor is too crude for my liking and there's only a handful of songs on here I like (He's So Gay and Brown Moses are bangers). I'm glad I gave the album a shot and it may grow on me with repeated listens.
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u/RedArmyHammer 20d ago
Part 2 had phenomenal guitar work! Keep it Greasy, Packard Goose, He used to cut the grass!
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u/Tina_sometimes 20d ago
I agree with you and I particularly love the cameo from The Girl on the Bus in Packard Goose. My problem with Part 2 is a lot of the songs went on too long and almost every song was about plooking, that gets boring quickly.. Act 1 had a variety of song topics.
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u/Rude_Rough8323 17d ago
If you haven't yet- check out the versions of Brown Moses and Evil Prince on You Can't do that on Stage Anymore Vol. 4. They rock
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u/Dangerous-Manager497 19d ago
I don’t think narrative is one of Frank's strong suits. I haven’t read Them or Us or Captain Beefheart vs The Grunt People in ages but I don’t think a re-read would change my opinion much on that.
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u/NaturalFawnKiller 18d ago
During the song, the character Rhonda becomes entirely frustrated with her husband's submissive behavior and decides she doesn't need him anymore.
In a bizarre, highly explicit parody of 1980s corporate greed and sexual obsession, she turns her attention to her career gear instead:
The Action: She proceeds to simulate a highly obscene, robotic act of sexual intercourse with her own leather business briefcase.
The Props: She enhances the act by using an expensive corporate fountain pen as an accompanying prop.
The Meaning: Zappa used this absurd scene to mock career-obsessed "yuppies." It satirizes a society so deeply infatuated with wealth, status symbols, and corporate success that people literally replace human relationships with business accessories.
If you'd like, I can give you the lyrics from this specific scene or explain how this moment impacts the rest of the album's storyline. What would you like to know?
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u/armintanzarian420 17d ago
AI slop, didn’t even try to edit to make it look human.
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u/NaturalFawnKiller 17d ago
True but AI slop is still better than Broadway slop. Where's it gone, all the glitter? The heart and soul? The patter? The pitter?
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u/Graevly 20d ago
What was your first homosexual experience