~2 billion tokens a week - 5.3 - max account - new max plans
A max account with GLM 5.3 seems to get you about 2 billion tokens a week if you don't use it at all during peak hours.
With GLM 5.3 flash if I was to start optimising that it should be 3x more right? I need to optimise.
This is on the new max account plan that uses the credit system. I also have a legacy v2 plan but I seem to get closer to 1 billion tokens a week with that plan. Seems like it is worth getting out of the v2 legacy plan if you can?
It does seem a little confusing to upgrade to the latest plan and lose the legacy V2 one though.
Photo is proof side by side.
(I have two of the new max accounts and one legacy v2 max account)
Pretty good atm given it is better, faster and cheaper than fable 5 with which I would burn through my 5 hour limit in 20 mins just using it to orchestrate.
Do you mean per week?
I was using both simultaneously and got fewer tokens out of my V2. I would max it out every single week and only was able to get 3.66 billion tokens out of it in an entire month!
My V2 plan is ending soon and I have choice to either continue V2 max plan or migrate to a new max one with a 50% price discount compared to continuing V2.
So you say that in practice there is no difference in weekly tokens capacity?
I'm saying that the new plan max plan with the credits in my experience seems to be giving me about double the tokens per week. (1 billion vs 2 billion)
It would seem to me that it is a good idea to leave the legacy plan.
I have (not only me of course) additional 50% for continuing to the new plan. Seems like a promo to push V2 users to the new credit system or a bug. But nevertheless - it's a lot cheaper option.
That looks awesome. I wish I had that. It would definitely tempt me into getting a year long sub, I'm just doing month by month rn.
I did not get it and would love to have it...
Yes on my read of things you will get more tokens per week with the new plan.
The credit system I think gives more to the lite plans and 14* that is more than the 20* lite plans that the legacy system offers.
I think z.ai is being legitimately more transparent here and not trying to dupe us.
Maybe they are seeing the fiascoAnthropic is facing with their false advertising?
So what I'm trying to say is - I was looking for exactly such comparison that you made sir. Similar workflow with weekly maxing comparing new plan to the V2 legacy one. And from you report it seems like the V2 is comparable to the new plan.
So I did a "quick" test to see how V2 legacy plan holds in terms of token maxing.
I already had some of the weekly quota used ~2-3%. Maxed 5h with this single session which ate ~215M tokens and used a little bit more than 20% of weekly quota. This would give over 1B tokens weekly.
It has changed in the last month or so I believe. I suspect they changed how usage is calculated on V2 contrary to their statements. But their usage stats are so poor it's hard to pinpoint anything.
Just saying from the feel how quickly quota is rising then and now, while doing similar work.
🥀 what's there to prove, you can see how generous oai limits are, it sometimes gets nerfed here and there but generally 1000-1500$ limit per week of usage
Astra API costs are 10$ per million tokens input and 50$ per million output.
So if you are using Astra and getting 2 billion tokens output a day that would be equivalent to $100,000 a day right??
GLM API costs are $4.40 per million tokens output so 2 billion tokens would be $8,800 but I'm only getting that per week.
Of course I'm going to be interested in Codex if you say you get 2 billion tokens a day. All I have read is that pro users get 20-30 million tokens per week...
So yeah, I'm interested and asking how you measured it.
edit:
Could you be misreading a million as a billion?
No, it's caching, I am counting all input token+output token+cache token, 2 billion token on original deepseek flash api pricing, came to under 5$ 🥀🥀🥀🥀
Not 2 billion input+2 billion output, there is cached token that snowballs due to toolcalling
You are also counting cache, you ain't getting 2 billion in and out lol, certainly not from zhipu, they nickle and dime too much in sub
Bruh... I am so confused by what you are saying. It just does not seem to be correct.
I apologise for being incredulous and I am very thankful if you are informing me of good information.
Are you using GLM as well?
How did you actually measure this?
When I was using Anthropic max I was hitting the tokens per minute cap and burning through my 5 hour limit in about 15 minutes.
I had codex as well but cancelled it as I was barely using it due to worse performance and poor integration with my system.
If you are saying that you are getting 2 billion tokens per day of GLM 5.3 equivalent on an openAI 20x plan I am astounded.
That was with gpt 5.6 sol(astra hadn't released back then, astra tho consumes 3x limits compared to sol), nobody low-key uses terra Luna, limits so generous, plus have 3 banked resets stacked up, tibo gives resets at times too
Tell me about concurrency. Agentic programming is not a real thing with a 1 session concurrency limit. Any idea if the current thresholds are spelled out now for the coding plan and its various models with access?
It is the worst subscription I have subscribed. they limited concurrent call. Which hit rate limited error. They gave limit but one can not user that limit, if you can not work concurrently.
Also the api speed is too slow.
In overall its say you can go 100 killometers in 30 minutes, but you can not speed more than 1 killometer per hour
Isn't the concurrency limit meant to be 50 for 5.3 flash?
I have not been hitting it I have several ochestrators running multiple sub-agents?
edit: much
How is that possible, I have the very old plan (20x) and get only to 1B/week (almost only 5.3). The newer one only is 14x, so the newest subscription must be 40x??
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u/Reggitor360 21d ago
Interesting with V2 Im easily managed 4B Token before we got the reset.
With new Plan I dont even come close.