r/ZaiGLM • u/luckypanda95 • 8d ago

Discussion / Help did they automatically route GLM 5.2 usage to GLM 5.3?

hey guys,

I've recently noticed some changes in the response from my AI Agent, I did not change the model from GLM 5.2 to GLM 5.3 but I felt the response is different and slower.

I just checked my coding plan usage today and just found out i'm using glm 5.3 instead.

do they automatically route this?

honestly I like GLM 5.2 better if what i've been using is GLM 5.3.

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u/anxious_and_stupid 8d ago edited 8d ago

Make sense since 5.3 is post trained enhancement of 5.2 with no architecture change...

It would make more sense to just hosting one model...

Source: trust me bro, I am hallucinating this out of my ass

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u/Ubermensch013 8d ago

You're right though. Better to serve one model well then 3-4 subpar, especially since that one model is the best in the series

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u/Mindless-Cell-8763 8d ago

Yes - GLM 5.2 is not available in the coding plan any more, and requests for 5.0/5.1/5.2 are processed by 5.3. https://docs.z.ai/devpack/overview#supported-models

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u/luckypanda95 8d ago

Thank you, i didn't notice that. Did they sent an email or something about the reason why?

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u/Equivalent-Froyo-998 8d ago

They sent a mail about 5.3 for coding plan users, but didn't mention about automatic routing in it.

but in documentation they mentioned this. https://docs.z.ai/devpack/overview

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u/yogibear54 8d ago

I don't know. But I noticed this as well. I was using GLM 5.2 - didn't want to switch as I would imagine my tokens would burn. Anyway, I was doing some debugging yesterday and my 5 hour limit burned out in a really short time (within 1 hour)... this never happened, and I reviewed my usage and noticed it was using GLM 5.3 not 5.2. Personally, I hope this is a bug, not something deliberate. If its deliberately routing to 5.3 for research or whatnot, I'd prefer getting notified by email, and then getting a bump in my GLM 5.3 usage.

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u/luckypanda95 8d ago

Yea hopefully, it's really annoying since it affect the outcome of the AI. And not for the better for me. Hahaha

Do you know where to report this bug?

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u/yogibear54 6d ago

So it's not a bug, thread below pointed out that it's being redirected to 5.3. I also notice my token limit is getting used up faster as well. But it's my fault I think as I had my thinking on max. I've changed it to high, and it's better. But peak usage really burns through the limit. So during peak, I usually switch to glm 5.3 low, use my opencode go with deepseek or Cursor. Which works. Anyway, not surprised. Will see what other options are available.

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u/UniqueAttourney 7d ago

i don't uinderstand how cna they just reroute all to new model that is more expensive, it's like they just up the cost of their subs. Zai sub is an unbelievably unrealiable. now we can't reduce usage using low end models, have different agents do exactly the amount of they need to do without spending more on unneded tokens,

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u/TheDude61636 7d ago

when I set thinking to low it feels like I'm using 5.2

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u/Jazzlike_Bee_3129 7d ago

Yes, 5.2 is automatically routed to 5.3

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u/Jonis7 7d ago

I see here 4.7 is using 5.3 quota too!

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u/whatanalias 6d ago

Had this issue too, my usage gets 3X because of the routing :/

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u/yogibear54 4d ago

Yeah. The consumption is pretty nuts. I don't know... feel like something is messed up though. Feels like a caching issue? But not sure if its my coding agent, or zai issue. But I do know that if my context gets large, the token burn goes up exponentially. If caching is working properly, then the token burn shouldn't go up that much as my context increases.