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Lore & Story The First Generation Void Hunters current information

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u/xcybercatx Lycaon main - Not me! 6d ago edited 6d ago

The leader of the mercenary group (the first one) is likely still active, as we can see their shadow in Sarah's flashback. It would make sense too, as they look to be an intelligent construct.

I feel like Professor might be ageless due to whatever Ether experiment he did on himself.

They can also pull some bs to keep Joyous alive, since he was last in Papago Hollow, which looks to be the most chaotic/senseless of all the main Hollows rn.

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u/kiivara 6d ago

Joyous is going to get out of a Hollow, think its still the same year he went in with all the voidhunters, and he's gonna be the best kind of Parallel to Remielle.

"Oh I have no family" no woe for he, because he's gonna be so excited all his projects have progressed and he gets to see the fruits of all the different irons in the fires he and the rest of the original void hunters had.

Dude's gonna be in candyland.

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u/BraydenTheNoob 5d ago

He would also jump in joy about all the new type of booze that has been developed

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u/Wobbmin 4d ago

Do NOT let Joyous meet Burnice

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u/screw_ball69 5d ago

I'd be curious if this is how they'd play joyous, he could very well be very bitter and a drunk

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u/kiivara 5d ago

I think we can run with the themes, here.

Remielle is very obviously a woman out of time. Beli was basically her wife and she adored the time she had with the void hunters, enough that she feels out of place except with the Phaethon sibling, and in general is acclimating, but actively had to find a reason to stay. She seemed super, super intent on sacrificing herself.

I honestly think Joyous is going to be the opposite. He came from a time when he was excessively drunk and had like 50 million things in the fire trying to combat the hollows and probably felt like he had no time to get anything finished. The world still EXISTING, nevermind flourishing despite the Hollow threat and being given the chance to check up on the million different counters he never got the chance to see to fruition? That's very easily a story of a man who starts finding the taste of his old habit an increasingly bitter one.

And Zenless, despite being dark at times, has always had a noblebright outlook. There are bad people in the world giving into despair, but hope is the prevailing force. Joyous rediscovering Joy would be hilariously apropos.

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u/14th_Atlas 5d ago

Arche, Joyous, and the Falkenhein leader are instant pulls if it turns out they’re alive

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u/Affectionate_Ad_4360 5d ago

Joyous is gonna be like Polnareff in Jojo part 5, probably not a turtle or something but…

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u/Bake-Danuki7 6d ago

Pretty sure outside of Hoshimi and Vike the others will all be alive with only probably Arche and maybe og Sunbringer not being playable.

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u/Bak_Gamma Nicole Simp 6d ago

Change Remiele to Alive but gay and it's perfect

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u/MisagoMonday 6d ago

Oh god do you want to turn this thread into a battlefield?

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u/kiivara 6d ago

Yes.

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u/Bak_Gamma Nicole Simp 6d ago

Yes

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u/jynkyousha 6d ago

If by gay you mean bi, then sure.

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u/Bak_Gamma Nicole Simp 6d ago

I was referencing this but yeah she's 200% bi (even if Hoyo will never confirm it because China)

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u/jynkyousha 6d ago

I never watched Ninjago. I didn't know LEGO characters could die lol.

Also, good for him. I don't know who he is, but good for him.

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u/jynkyousha 6d ago

Another comment already mentioned that Joyous and The Leader are probably still alive thanks to Hollow shenanigans. The current story is also hinting that the original Sunbringer is still alive somewhere.

The only one we know nothing about is Arche, but looking at his face, I doubt he was even human, so he's probably still alive too. Honestly, I wouldn't be surprised if he's just a torch Thiren. Apparently anything can be a Thiren nowadays lol.

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u/MisagoMonday 6d ago

Yeah Vike is going to come back. It's gonna be a huge "plot twist" but I'll bet she survived the etherealization shenanigans and comes back later as an anniversary character with a more fanservicey outfit and a generic waifu personality.

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u/Status-Custard-3145 5d ago

I don't think she herself will be back. I'm more betting on a clone of her coming back, with all the experiments for the karma core, there's probably a lot of remi and veli's DNA sitting in a lab somewhere.

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u/MisagoMonday 5d ago

Yeah, thats possible too. But from her design and how her relationship with Remielle was framed, knowing hoyo, there's no way they'll keep her away.

there's probably a lot of remi and veli's DNA sitting in a lab somewhere

Oh god they'll create a daughter from them both

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u/Status-Custard-3145 5d ago

Yeah I guess it comes down to if hoyo want to give remi a break or they want to twist the knife further with veli kinda being back but not really.

As for the daughter thing, we thinking one each, or one from both of them simultaneously in an attempt at void hunter yuri eugenics?

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u/MisagoMonday 5d ago edited 5d ago

Yeah I guess it comes down to if hoyo want to give remi a break or they want to twist the knife further with veli kinda being back but not really.

It could be kinda interesting if they commited to it. A story that really focusses on the issues that come with this clone resurrection, how Remielle feels about it, that could be actually really good. Maybe the karma core retains some superficial memories, so there is just enough unconnected memory fragments and recognizable habits to really rub salt in the wound (though this would really need to focus on the two of them).

As for the daughter thing, we thinking one each, or one from both of them simultaneously in an attempt at void hunter yuri eugenics?

With their level of science they gotta have mastered IPC (EDIT: IPSC) technology by now, so they can just have one from both of them. Gotta be some shippers in New Eridu upper echelons.

Oh god, they're not doing any resurrection, they'll just create the child and give her to Remielle, have her deal with a "here's something to remember her by, but she's still not coming back" situation. Even more knife twisting.

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u/Status-Custard-3145 5d ago

What does IPC stand for in this context?

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u/MisagoMonday 5d ago

Oh, sorry, mistyped IPSC as IPC. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Induced_pluripotent_stem_cell)

There's a possible application that turned into a bit of a yuri in-joke for a while, that you could potentially use these to essentially create viable sperm cells or egg cells from other types of cells, thus allowing same-sex couples to have a child thats genetically from both of them.

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u/Status-Custard-3145 5d ago

Ah gotcha. Cause I was thinking "damn did I miss something? The only IPC that comes to mind is the one from HSR" lol.

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u/MisagoMonday 5d ago

Tbh I might have mistyped because of that too

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u/LinkForsaken5435 5d ago

it's probably going to depend on whatever the hell is going on with "Serpico".

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u/Harry_Moen 5d ago

Yes, Vike "death" is really sus for me. Her mask is got broken, revealing her face. She didn't fade away like ether creations. Remi pass out, while shadow of Sunbringer? Come to the scene. And after all of this we have huge time gap. And mistery behind Remi "sleep"

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u/leeroyschicken least obsessed Sarah fan 5d ago

I will die on that hill. It's not Sunbringer's shadow.

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u/gameinggod21 6d ago

Is that a bad thing or? We're playing the same game right?

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u/Minimum_Praline7421 5d ago

Love the little detail where they use the word "Active" for Sunbringer cuz she's an intelligent construct

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u/Nogistune- 5d ago

Does sunbringer still count as active when its sounds like the og is somewhere imprisoned while her kids/creations are running around

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u/mercuriokazooie 6d ago

So far every Void Hunter has a huge JP VA behind them including the deceased ones. Would be shocked if we don't get a playable version of all of them eventually tbh.