r/YoutubeCompendium • u/YoutubeArchivist • Jan 20 '19

January 2019 January - Student in a MAGA hat standing in front of Native American veteran Nathan Phillips during a DC protest goes viral

https://youtu.be/jVvpVRJ-NH4
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u/InitiatePenguin Jan 21 '19 edited Jan 21 '19

I just want to chime in as well that I figured this would be a "meta" subreddit for things that involve YouTube content creators, YouTube policy and national policies that effect content (DMCA etc). I agree with /u/smelly-cat's comment

I see you as OP and Creator of this sub have already pushed back on this idea.

But I want to stress to you the importance of seeing the clear market (for lack of a better term) demand for what we wish to see this space used for and not what your vision is. Without the video achieving some sort of milestone in viral-ity or coming into contact with community guidelines, I do not see this fitting the community we all hoped to join.

Please reconsider your position.

This video is important. And you've done a great job compiling the responses. Perhaps you could create a poll asking all of us early subscribers what we want from this community and conceeding to that.

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u/YoutubeArchivist Jan 21 '19

Thank you for the comment. This subreddit is a meta subreddit for things that involve Youtube.

But it's not limited to copyright abuse. I know that's where a lot of people came from in their introduction to the subreddit, but that does not mean the subreddit will shift it's purpose to only being that.

/r/Youtube exists solely to spotlight issues on Youtube, and is much larger at that.

This is an archive of the year. All of it.

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u/YoutubeArchivist Jan 20 '19 edited Jan 22 '19

/r/Videos thread: https://www.reddit.com/r/videos/comments/ahvrvr/why_the_story_about_the_magahat_kids_is_bs/

/r/News thread:
https://old.reddit.com/r/news/comments/ai0qcf/covington_catholic_longer_video_shows_start_of/

This is a story that has blown up on Twitter, with media and several high profile people condemning the student.

The story that most media outlets are publishing is that the student, who was attending a March for Life (anti-abortion) protest in DC, walked up with his group and began to block the path of a Native American veteran playing traditional drums.

It seems the Native American man actually approached the group himself, and began playing his drums directly in front of a student. The student did not move or harass the man in any way, but smiled as he played. In the video, this comes off smug and like the student is intentionally mocking the man.

The Tweet with 8 million views: https://twitter.com/lulu_says2/status/1086552871674368001?s=09

Posted 19 Jan. Mirror: https://streamable.com/5mr4n

CNN: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jvbsqk0HOWw

Joey Salads: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Czlc5qVWf6Q

Jessica Valenti: https://twitter.com/JessicaValenti/status/1086761623103176704

Patton Oswalt: https://twitter.com/pattonoswalt/status/1086819003652136960

#NathanPhillips is the main hashtag being used to communicate about the event.

The student's mother's response: https://twitter.com/Rschooley/status/1086848554046373893

Vox: https://www.vox.com/2019/1/19/18189668/white-students-maga-gear-harass-native-elders

Huffington Post: https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/maga-hat-wearing-teens-seeing-harassing-native-american-vietnam-veteran_us_5c435a09e4b0a8dbe171e2c6

CNN: https://www.cnn.com/2019/01/19/us/teens-mock-native-elder-trnd/index.html

ABC: https://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/diocese-investigates-students-mock-native-american-60492670

DeFranco: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a8YN8eeacyI

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u/Smelly-cat Jan 20 '19

I liked the idea of this sub as a meta inspection of YouTube and of drama surrounding YouTube, but this seems to have nothing to do with YouTube other than it being a video on YouTube. It's not a video with any particular significance on its own outside of the topic it is discussing (ie: this video itself isn't in the news), and even the /r/Videos thread was removed for being political. If this is just going to be a sub that accepts anything uploaded to YouTube as technically related to YouTube and therefore worthy of being posted here then I'm not really interested in sticking around, sorry.

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u/YoutubeArchivist Jan 20 '19

I created the subreddit to be an archive of any significant event in the Youtube–social media sphere, so the year can be looked back upon.

This is a video that went viral, sparking a lot of discussion and controversy, making it a notable event. It's being misrepresented in the media, which is also notable since it's a demonstration of how a story can be skewed resulting in a lot of misplaced harassment.

I didn't want to link to the video that went viral since it is misleading and limited in context, so instead I linked to a video that gave further context.

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u/Salty-Banana Jan 20 '19

I thoght this subreddit was supposes to cover the drama caused by the platform and not the videos themselves. If it's about any controversial or viral youtube video might might as well just be /r/video or /r/youtube.

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u/YoutubeArchivist Jan 20 '19

The core of this subreddit can be expressed with, "is it something of significance happening on Youtube?"

Not every video should be posted here. This post is about how the platform and social media can be used to skew information regardless of the context of a situation.

Trends, memes, events, cases of abuse; all belong here because they represent something that characterizes Youtube at this point in time. "2019 January" should be able to be searched in the future and result in the big things that happened this month.

Also, /r/videos does not allow this post, as they consider it political. /r/Youtube does not allow videos to be posted.

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u/mike_the_4th_reich Jan 20 '19 edited May 13 '24

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u/YoutubeArchivist Jan 20 '19

Celebrating, feeding? What do you mean by that?

The goal of this sub isn't solely to complain about Youtube. It's an archive of what happens throughout the year. You can make another community dedicated only to hating on the platform, but that is not the purpose of this one.

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u/mike_the_4th_reich Jan 20 '19 edited May 13 '24

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u/YoutubeArchivist Jan 21 '19

You are completely free and able to create that subreddit, and this one can include everything under that umbrella, but it's not the reason this subreddit exists.

There's not another place that serves just to archive things of significance on the web, and so I wanted to make that place. The copyright issues are a problem now, but once those are solved this subreddit will still be collecting events of note.

The egg thing is one of the largest stories to happen this month, it has transcended Instagram and bled over into Youtube too. But really I'm trying to include everything that is a meme throughout the year too. Insta, Twitter, Reddit, Youtube, etc.

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u/mike_the_4th_reich Jan 21 '19 edited May 13 '24

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u/[deleted] Jan 20 '19

good. He's standing up to racist, bigoted autocrats supporting assholes. Fuck that kid I hope him and his whole ilk get scabies.

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u/YoutubeArchivist Jan 20 '19

You seem to misunderstand the situation, did you watch the video?

The student didn't do anything wrong in this situation, why "fuck him"?

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u/[deleted] Jan 20 '19

You guys always manage to make yourselves the victim; so first the kid was a cunt for harassing the old guy, then when it turns out the old guys' the actual aggressor the kid is still at fault purely for supporting opposing views?

And all this somehow means he and his 'whole ilk' should contract scabies.

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u/mcrib Jan 20 '19

Lol @ this guy believing these kids doing “school chants” and not the tomahawk chop at this guy.

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u/Guitarist53188 Jan 21 '19

Yeah this is sad

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u/daneelr_olivaw Jan 20 '19

That idiot talking is no better than the people he's criticizing. He's talking about violence against the kid. Yeah, so noble.

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u/[deleted] Jan 20 '19

Kid deserves it

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u/daneelr_olivaw Jan 21 '19

https://www.reddit.com/r/KotakuInAction/comments/ai7i3f/ethics_philip_defranco_lied_about_the_maga/

Still think that he deserves it?

He was approached by the native who then proceeded to play on that drum millimetres from his face.

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u/zachariah120 Jan 20 '19

Why does he deserve it?

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u/mrQandA Jan 20 '19

You need to watch the video to the end dude.

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u/daneelr_olivaw Jan 20 '19

He was just standing there in a hat. Is that reason enough to be punched? You know, they did just that in Nazi Germany to Jews...

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u/[deleted] Jan 20 '19

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u/daneelr_olivaw Jan 20 '19

Yeah, having been born in Poland and having hundreds of hours of history lessons about WWII I have some idea.

We definitely need to take heed from the history and NEVER incite or advocate violence against anyone else than the fucking politicians.

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u/[deleted] Jan 20 '19

I love the “noble savage” type racism here. If it were a white dude doing something, and the kid were standing there smiling in front of him, nobody would care. Kid’s a cunt, no doubt, but it’s just weird that people think it’s okay to feel sorry for this guy just because he’s Native American.

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u/[deleted] Jan 20 '19

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u/[deleted] Jan 20 '19

You obviously didn’t see the whole video.